She HAS to be a virgin

[Pandora]

RedPill.

If you're going to get married, a baseline requirement is virginity. This is non-negotiable. Men from traditional societies know this, and our own ancestors knew this just a few generations ago.

FACTTTSSS 100% bro. How this is even debatable is beyond me. Its like we have gotten so used to female promiscuity that we defend it. We think that the mental illness that is Western women is some normal shyt.

If a girl has had even 1 excellent lover before you, that is enough to alpha widow her FOREVER. She will constantly compare him to you. That is relationship suicide.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Okay maybe we should go back to those so called "outdated societal norms". How are these new and improved societal norms working out for us? Lol......They are not working out for us. We are literally on a forum strategizing on how to get women. Do you understand that older cultures would laugh at us. Our modern norms are literally causing the collapse of society. We have a negative birthrates and our women are pushing us around. Maybe we should learn a thing or two from the ancient cultures because we certainly dont have the answers. Dont be arrogant.

They were too busy trying to survive and not die every day to worry about anything else. If they were lucky they lived til about 30.

This silliness need to stop. Now we should want to be like ancient cultures? 80% of the people on this board wouldn't be alive if that was the case.

 

[Pandora]

"It takes a village to raise a child" - is the argument about nature/nurture. Women are children too so the same arguments apply.

Yes I totally agree. Women are pretty much grown children. They go by what the group does. Very few women have real independent thought. It takes a village to raise a woman. Young women have the logical ability of middle schoolers until they get old.

Side note. This is an example of the logical prowess of the modern female. There is a popular feminist meme going around that says the following.

" If Lesbians can control their urge to catcall women, how come men cant control their urge".

This is the most juvenile retarded half baked mental midget argument ever. And women rally behind this argument. This is how dumb they are. They never once used any logic to ascertain why Lesbians and biological males are different.

1.) We have 10X the testosterone as females
2.) Our brain structure is freaking vastly different than a Lesbian who is still a female
3.) Men have to approach women or else they get nothing.

This is the creature we are dealing with. Yes, women are children.

 

[Pandora]

They were too busy trying to survive and not die every day to worry about anything else. If they were lucky they lived til about 30.

This silliness need to stop. Now we should want to be like ancient cultures? 80% of the people on this board wouldn't be alive if that was the case.

Bro the Amish and strict Mormons are doing quite well and they have the morals of ancient cultures. Many strict Muslim cultures dont have the issues we have. Many poor Eastern European and West African cultures have the morals of the ancients and their women are held in check.

I do understand your point though. You are saying that in order to have technological progress crappy women are a part of the deal. I agree.

This is why many people were against technological progress just for the sake of technological progress. Comfortable times ruin the women. All I am saying is stop acting like the morals of the ancients were stupid. They were much more wise than we are with our 65 genders and body positivity nonsense.

 

[manfrombelow]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I can't even HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Why would you have to drag yourself this low, OP?

 

[Pandora]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Sorry but HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I can't even HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Why would you have to drag yourself this low, OP?

lol I dont understand...funny gif tho. Are you saying that I am wrong or right? Or it doesn't matter.

 

[manfrombelow]

He's laughing at the concept of a female virgin. It's funny to him because the entire concept of a female virgin is so alien and primitive to him. Most men have been brainwashed by feminism as much as women have.

Hello doctor Charles Xavier, who could obviously read my mind. Hahaha

 

[manfrombelow]

FYI: I'm not even from the states or any Western country, but rather a 3rd world country you guys would call "back-water", where virginity is being worshipped on a daily basis.

 

[Pandora]

I am no psychologist but I think the proponents of low female notch counts say women with high notch counts lack the ability to bond and are most likely to cheat.
On the other hand, wouldn't that mean the same thing for men?
But what do I know?

Yes I agree you make a good point. Promiscuity also effects men. It does not effect us in the same way it effects women. Male promiscuity makes men better lovers, more charismatic, more confident and an all around better seducer. It does have negatives. It makes you jaded, and it slightly lessens your pair bonding ability. It makes you indifferent to female manipulation. You are quick to next a female that isn't up to your standards.

Male promiscuity is not ideal. I was promicuous in my youth. I got my heart broken a couple times. I am no longer able to get the limerence and butterflies I first got I my late teens and early 20's no matter how beautiful the girl is. I am not sure that this is a good thing. Sometimes I miss being genuinely excited to hang out with a girl and being nervous around her. Oneitis feels good until you crash and burn.

 

[Pandora]

FYI: I'm not even from the states or any Western country, but rather a 3rd world country you guys would call "back-water", where virginity is being worshipped on a daily basis.

And your issue with what I am saying is what? I am open to being corrected. I bet feminism is not very strong in your nation. I bet the women dont beat the men at 50%. I bet men dont get raped in family court. I bet not too many of your female friends have OnlyFans accounts. I also bet the divorce rate is relatively low in your nation................

 

[Pandora]

Totally different blank-slate equalism nonsense. It comes from the "men and women are the same" fallacy.

Men and women are not the same. They experience sex very differently. Women have a high-cost to sex (pregnancy, child rearing). Men have low-cost seed spreading. These behaviors and sexual strategies are hardwired into our minds, despite recent changes with birth control etc.

High notches effect women, high notches don't effect men.

I agree. Do you find yourself more jaded than you were before being with so many women. These are women that many of them cheated on their boyfriends, many of them we nasty *****s, many of them had deep emotional baggage etc. I know it has effected me a little bit.

 

[Pandora]

Even in the RP, guys will choose which "brutal" truths (they're not brutal if you can handle it) to endorse, and rationalize away the rest. Female sexuality is a powerful force of nature, especially at a young age, and a lot of guys can't handle that or just don't want to see it.


With a guy like you - high value, knows how to handle women - chances are high she'll stick by your side. This is true even if she's not a virgin. I think it has more to do with you than her - but every man should screen for his best interests.

Yeh man I agree. It is difficult for some men ( including me) to accept how powerful a force female nature is. We fear it so we try to repress it. There are men that are okay with the consequences of unleashing it. There are also men that want to suppress it. I do not know who is right. Maybe both are right.

Thanks for the compliment. I am not a high value man yet. I have potential. I do have a lot of Redpill awareness that I will use to keep her in line. Still might not work in the long run but we will see.

 

[Pandora]

I like sluttier woman. Virgins dont have this in them. I have pulled some really crazy things from girls over the years. Some you wouldn't believe. It is just my preference in the bedroom.

Yes sluts are a lot more fun. This is very true. Virgins are kinda......well boring unless they are smoking hot. Which in that case they will probably not be virgins lol.

 

[PRW63]

OK, if you really think so why not try it out? There are plenty of places in the world where they still have that culture.

Because it isn't Shareware. You can't just "try it out". You have to have a whole society go that way,...an individual can't make it happen.

The other societies that do something similar are:

1. Don't actually do what you think. They certainly don't do it consistently as a society. It is just "pockets" here and there of crazy people who may be doing one thing right and a dozen things wrong. Wanting women to not be promiscuous is a good thing,...decapitating them when they fail to do so is a bit "whacked".
2. Their societies are a train wreck in dozens of other ways. Their society isn't going to be "rescued" just because they might practice arranged marriages.

So looking at other societies to discredit something (like virginity & arranged marriages) is a strawman argument. There are no societies doing things the "old way". All you have are crazed modern societies that hang on to a spattering of a few old practices that is perverted by the rest of their modern society.

 

[PRW63]

I dont understand. You can have marriages, families and babies without pair bonding. It happens today in American all the time. These hoes will have babies with men and then sleep with their best friend. They will get married and then divorced within a year.

And from that you get twisted screwed up children that grow up to destroy the society they were born in.

 

[PRW63]

This is my point bro. This is what I am saying. Those weird prohibitions on female sexuality is exactly what is needed to keep a society functioning. Those arranged marriages worked because those girls were virgins. In addition to being virgins they were sheltered. In addition to being sheltered they had strong social shaming families that kept them in check. All these factors increase pair bonding.

We can act like our modern culture is so smart if we want but we are the laughing stock of history. Domestic violence is 50% women beating men...come on bro. How can we even talk. We should be ashamed lol.

Yep. But society will never go back to that. It is pretty much over. The human raced is headed for a major collapse. There is no stopping it or turning it around. You just have to know it is coming and find a way to save yourself as an individual. Something better will just have to rise out of the ashes. I may look like I play both sides a bit in my posts, but what it really is,...is,...there are people here on both extremes. So I am on one side pushing back on one extreme,...then I'm on the other side pushing back on the opposite extreme. The truth isn't all that complicated if people would stop running off to extremes like madmen. Of course sometimes the truth is a very unpleasant one, and the real future of society (globally) is one of those.

It is like your screename. Once Pandora's Box is opened,...there is no going back. The box was opened a long time ago.

 

[Barrister]

Yep. But society will never go back to that. It is pretty much over. The human raced is headed for a major collapse. There is no stopping it or turning it around. You just have to know it is coming and find a way to save yourself as an individual. Something better will just have to rise out of the ashes. I may look like I play both sides a bit in my posts, but what it really is,...is,...there are people here on both extremes. So I am on one side pushing back on one extreme,...then I'm on the other side pushing back on the opposite extreme. The truth isn't all that complicated if people would stop running off to extremes like madmen. Of course sometimes the truth is a very unpleasant one, and the real future of society (globally) is one of those.

It is like your screename. Once Pandora's Box is opened,...there is no going back. The box was opened a long time ago.

You maybe right. But keep in mind people have been saying this very thing for thousands of years. Every generation thinks the one after it is "worse" in some way and the global society is heading for collapse. What is more likely, based upon human history, is that humans do just fine and keep on living and evolving.

 

[Barrister]

If you think that, either you were never really able to pair bond or you don't have high notches. I can walk away from a relationship like it's nothing now compared to before. I am very similar to a 30yo woman. Before, I would have fought to the death to make a relationship work. Jadedness, numbness, and boredom from diminishing marginal returns are not exclusive to women

I will never completely (as in 100%) trust a woman again. I will also never fully commit my emotional well-being to a woman ever again. I also don't consider sex nearly as big a deal as I did back in my early 20s. These are seen as good qualities by the community here at SS. I suppose maybe this is being "jaded" -- but honestly whatever you want to call it it stands that multiple relationships with women have affected how I approach any future relationship (plate, LTR, etc.) in a more detached way.

 

[PRW63]

You maybe right. But keep in mind people have been saying this very thing for thousands of years.

So what? The people in the past had less information to go on,...less to work with to figure it out.

Every generation thinks the one after it is "worse" in some way

And they were right. Every generation is worse. It is an ongoing march to destruction that gets closer with each generation. No one who knows what they are talking about ever said that it needed to happen within one generation. One generation isn't that long.
There is also an acceleration factor. The closer you get to the end the faster things happen. Then there are linchpin moments where it makes sudden jumps, but if you are living in that moment you don't recognize the significance. One example of that is the 1960s with the Sexual Revolution,...but people back than never thought we would be in the men -vs- women disaster we are in today because of it. Then the USA exported it world-wide. So the Sexual Revolution went from being a local phenomenon to a global one. There were other things like, the rise and fall of the Greek Empire, the Fall of Rome, the two World Wars, the Fall of the Soviet Union. They were all unexpected and then they just "happened".

The Roman Empire lasted over 1000 years (well over 10 generations), but at year 800 people would have been "poo-poo'ing" the predictions of it's fall saying, "Well it has been going for 800 years just fine and we are still going to keep on going like we always had been". At year 900 they would have been mocking them saying,.."They've been saying this crap for 100 years and we are doing fine! They are just fools!". But the fools were right. Rome would have never lasted that long had they had modern mass media, social media, the Internet, etc. All of those things create an acceleration.

 

[Barrister]

So what? The people in the past had less information to go on,...less to work with to figure it out.

And they were right. Every generation is worse. It is an ongoing march to destruction that gets closer with each generation. No one who knows what they are talking about ever said that it needed to happen within one generation. One generation isn't that long.
There is also an acceleration factor. The closer you get to the end the faster things happen. Then there are linchpin moments where it makes sudden jumps, but if you are living in that moment you don't recognize the significance. One example of that is the 1960s with the Sexual Revolution,...but people back than never thought we would be in the men -vs- women disaster we are in today because of it. Then the USA exported it world-wide. So the Sexual Revolution went from being a local phenomenon to a global one. There were other things like, the rise and fall of the Greek Empire, the Fall of Rome, the two World Wars, the Fall of the Soviet Union. They were all unexpected and then they just "happened".

The Roman Empire lasted over 1000 years (well over 10 generations), but at year 800 people would have been "poo-poo'ing" the predictions of it's fall saying, "Well it has been going for 800 years just fine and we are still going to keep on going like we always had been". At year 900 they would have been mocking them saying,.."They've been saying this crap for 100 years and we are doing fine! They are just fools!". But the fools were right. Rome would have never lasted that long had they had modern mass media, social media, the Internet, etc. All of those things create an acceleration.

I guess it depends on what you are saying is "worse." I agree the US has gotten exponentially worse and we are on a downswing as far as our overall influence and ability on a global scale. Much like the Romans you describe. But if you are stating all of humankind is going to fall apart, that was the original point I was responding to. People adapt. Civilizations rise and fall. The pendulum will swing back eventually OR a new civilization will rise up in the old one's place. It's happened since the dawn of time (for humans) and will continue to do so.