Fruitbat
Master Don Juan
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Some potential observations:
I was a little overweight and no Chad and I did just fine on OLD. I was mid 30s and getting dates with women in late 20s and up to my own age.
one was a quite hot marketing manager who I screwed in a London hotel, that didn’t go much further. We got really drunk and I think the chick spiked my drink with viagra, as I was blind drunk but strangely extremely hard all night!
they were all passable girls prob 5-7 in total terms which was probably where I stood in SMV at the time.
I deliberately avoided the “hot” girls and looked for solid, non fat women who would have looked reasonable naked! None were particularly ugly but none were knockout. I figured the hot ones would have had an army of c0ck around them. Interestingly my wife was one of the hottest I saw on there so that theory might be a stupid one to adopt.
If you’re photo model looks that may actually put off a lot of women. Some women quite like more average looking guys for many reasons. They may have been played by guys as attractive as you. They don’t want to be the ugly one in the relationship. Some women like the rugged manliness of a fairly ugly face. I don’t know what you look like but some guys look very fine Italian type looks but some girls just like rugged and weathered faces.
mainly I think a lot of girls like the idea of a man that they can keep - and a photo model is not that guy. They are always thinking marriage.
if you met these girls on holiday or at abar you would probably get them. Most are on OLD not for a lay, but for a boyfriend hence your looks may be a minus!
personally I changed my profile from the DJ approved peacock/masculine one to a dad-like guy in a blazer. I constructed a profile of a non player but “solid guy who would look good on your own and at a social function”type thing and that saw me increase massively.
I think this is where the red pill gets it wrong - really wrong for men over say 27ish. The kind of player persona is a young man thing.
All I can say is my experience. I am no expert but this is what worked for me and it flew in the face somewhat of everything game has to say. However, game was very useful in HOW you communicate and the attitude you bring.
yes you see hot girls with average looking guys but we are misunderstanding their rating system. You also see very jacked guys with fatties.
a hot girl with brains will still not date a meathead gym guy. There is a social shame amongst the intelligent in choosing overtly sexual partners.
loads of things go into this, which is why SMV isn’t a constant and is different for everyone.
as an example for me any girl over 5 6 is an immediate 0. I don’t like tall girls. I don’t like collagen lips, I hate fake tan and tattoos. I also couldn’t date a girl who likes shyt music.
women have this odd rating system too. A 9 to me could be another man’s 5,
I was a little overweight and no Chad and I did just fine on OLD. I was mid 30s and getting dates with women in late 20s and up to my own age.
one was a quite hot marketing manager who I screwed in a London hotel, that didn’t go much further. We got really drunk and I think the chick spiked my drink with viagra, as I was blind drunk but strangely extremely hard all night!
they were all passable girls prob 5-7 in total terms which was probably where I stood in SMV at the time.
I deliberately avoided the “hot” girls and looked for solid, non fat women who would have looked reasonable naked! None were particularly ugly but none were knockout. I figured the hot ones would have had an army of c0ck around them. Interestingly my wife was one of the hottest I saw on there so that theory might be a stupid one to adopt.
If you’re photo model looks that may actually put off a lot of women. Some women quite like more average looking guys for many reasons. They may have been played by guys as attractive as you. They don’t want to be the ugly one in the relationship. Some women like the rugged manliness of a fairly ugly face. I don’t know what you look like but some guys look very fine Italian type looks but some girls just like rugged and weathered faces.
mainly I think a lot of girls like the idea of a man that they can keep - and a photo model is not that guy. They are always thinking marriage.
if you met these girls on holiday or at abar you would probably get them. Most are on OLD not for a lay, but for a boyfriend hence your looks may be a minus!
personally I changed my profile from the DJ approved peacock/masculine one to a dad-like guy in a blazer. I constructed a profile of a non player but “solid guy who would look good on your own and at a social function”type thing and that saw me increase massively.
I think this is where the red pill gets it wrong - really wrong for men over say 27ish. The kind of player persona is a young man thing.
All I can say is my experience. I am no expert but this is what worked for me and it flew in the face somewhat of everything game has to say. However, game was very useful in HOW you communicate and the attitude you bring.
yes you see hot girls with average looking guys but we are misunderstanding their rating system. You also see very jacked guys with fatties.
a hot girl with brains will still not date a meathead gym guy. There is a social shame amongst the intelligent in choosing overtly sexual partners.
loads of things go into this, which is why SMV isn’t a constant and is different for everyone.
as an example for me any girl over 5 6 is an immediate 0. I don’t like tall girls. I don’t like collagen lips, I hate fake tan and tattoos. I also couldn’t date a girl who likes shyt music.
women have this odd rating system too. A 9 to me could be another man’s 5,
