TERRIBLE performance on a first date

[TheNewStyle123]

I've noticed that a lot of south american "good" girls will hold out on that first kiss. I had an amazing first date with a Peruviana and she tried every trick in the book to not put herself in a position to be kissed. It was becoming humorous the amount of effort she was putting in. And we even danced the bachata too haha. The ol bone was poking her because she smelled and looked sooooo good.

I thought she wasn't that interested, but on our second date she ate my face off. And after we broke the seal on the first kiss, we made out like our plane was going down from that day forward.

I asked her about it, and she said she never kisses on the first date no matter what.

Had virtually the same experience with a Braziliana as well.

Same man! Last Brazilian I dated did not kiss nor did she leave the opportunity open to kiss on the first date. On the second date she blew me! Another one wouldn't kiss me on the first date either, and the second date we had sex! I'm hoping this girl has the same stupid "first date" rule...

 

[Old Balls]

She probably had to appease her good Catholic girl hamster for the first date. Now, provided you don't beta-out and let her slide for too long, she should show you her bad Catholic girl side any time now. You just gotta bring it out of her. Teasing is great for this...

 

[Barrister]

@TheNewStyle123

I thought you did fine. The only thing that you could have done better would be to have set yourself up to have easier access to kino. Maybe have asked her to help you cook which would have given you many opportunities to bump into her, "help" her out, etc. Especially since you were in your own place this should have been doable.

That said, in the end it may not have made any difference as far as what would have happened. I wouldn't focus on that. Even assuming you could have banged her on date #1 it doesn't mean you can't do it on date #2. She seems to have good interest in you. Just be sure to begin kino fairly early during your next date with her and you will be fine.

 

[TheNewStyle123]

@TheNewStyle123

I thought you did fine. The only thing that you could have done better would be to have set yourself up to have easier access to kino. Maybe have asked her to help you cook which would have given you many opportunities to bump into her, "help" her out, etc. Especially since you were in your own place this should have been doable.

That said, in the end it may not have made any difference as far as what would have happened. I wouldn't focus on that. Even assuming you could have banged her on date #1 it doesn't mean you can't do it on date #2. She seems to have good interest in you. Just be sure to begin kino fairly early during your next date with her and you will be fine.

Thanks man! I think so too. The past two Brazilians I have been with did not kiss on the first date (and later told me they don't do that) but the second date it escalated to either sex or oral. I am planning on asking her to go dancing this weekend. Maybe at that club I mentioned in the last post?

 

[Barrister]

Thanks man! I think so too. The past two Brazilians I have been with did not kiss on the first date (and later told me they don't do that) but the second date it escalated to either sex or oral. I am planning on asking her to go dancing this weekend. Maybe at that club I mentioned in the last post?

Sounds like a cultural thing from what the other guys say. I have never dated a Brazilian. Out of curiosity - where do you live that you have so many of them around to date?

 

[Old Balls]

Oh, and IMHO-

Don't ask her out on your next conversation. Play with her a bit and leave it. Don't eagerly over-text her. Her hamster needs exercise.
Then ask her out after she has time to wonder wtf.

 

[Bigpapa]

Maybe a slap on the ass or something then whatever just something to indicate you actually want to F@ck her and not just have a tea party with her

brazilian men are the horniest men that you will ever see

taking this into consideration , Brazilian women expect a guy to be just like that . Maybe not at the same level as Brazilian men are , but for sure a guy that does this in a classy way

basically the Brazilian dating culture is like thi

men are horny and aggressive , women play coy

@Bingo-Player nails it good in his comments

 

[TheNewStyle123]

Sounds like a cultural thing from what the other guys say. I have never dated a Brazilian. Out of curiosity - where do you live that you have so many of them around to date?

Hahaha as my friend says "you are like a bloodhound for latina women". I live in Lowell, Massachusetts. It's ~25 miles from Boston. There is a large Brazilian population in some surrounding towns, as well as Puerto Rican, Dominican, and Colombian.

 

[Barrister]

Hahaha as my friend says "you are like a bloodhound for latina women". I live in Lowell, Massachusetts. It's ~25 miles from Boston. There is a large Brazilian population in some surrounding towns, as well as Puerto Rican, Dominican, and Colombian.

I like latinas myself -- I am seeing a Mexican girl now and I like the more conservative values she has. Definitely refreshing. Will have to give the Brazilian thing a try if I get a chance.

 

[TheNewStyle123]

I like latinas myself -- I am seeing a Mexican girl now and I like the more conservative values she has. Definitely refreshing. Will have to give the Brazilian thing a try if I get a chance.

I could never go back at this point haha. And yeah man, I am seeing a Mexican girl tomorrow at her place actually. We made out on the first date so thinking we can escalate to more at her place tomorrow. Definitely learning from last nights experience lol. Do you speak any Spanish or Portuguese?

 

[derby1]

when i first met my last GF she invited me over her house i walked through the door and within 5 minutes i was kissing her within an hour we were having sex .....she didn't get a say in the matter

we were together for almost 4 years after that

my last LTR she had 36DD boobs, I met at hers on the first night(it helped she was a little tipsy), I went to get a drink, from her kitchen, walked back to her and leant her back as i was facing down her body, I kissed her upside down and got those huge boobs in my mouth within 1 hour.

she loved every minute of it, and we were together 3 years. It kind of red pilled me, that they will get the boobs out for a guy they consider high SMV

 

[Modern Man Advice]

What's up fellas.

I have some owning up to do on what I believe was quite possibly the worst performance I have had on a first date so far.

Started talking to this Brazilian chick on hinge about a week ago. She gave me her number and told me to text her if I wanted. We planned on her coming to my place for dinner tonight (I was going to cook Brazilian food and she was going to bring drinks and a dessert). I know off the bat cooking dinner for a girl on a first date is usually a no go as she has not "earned" it, but in the past this has worked out in my favor and I felt better having her bring some stuff over too (wine and dessert).

Anyways, she arrived and we talked for a little and ate. Conversation was great but I did not initiate kino. No great opportunities at the time. Afterwards we decided I would teach her bachata and she would teach me a Brazilian dance called forro. Normally, this is the point when I make a move on a girl in my apartment, but she never looked up or turned towards me - so there was never a good chance to go in for a kiss. During dancing she asked if it would be OK if she recorded us to show her friends that she was teaching me. I didn't seem the harm in it (thoughts on this? I didn't really care, she was super giddy and excited).

Afterwards we had the dessert in my kitchen she again asked if she could record me trying a Brazilian dessert show she could show her friends my reaction. Again, I didn't really care and allowed her. For the first time that night I initiated kino by holding her hand in mine and looking at her while sitting at my table.

After that I invited her into the living room to sit on the couch and continue to talk and drink, she almost immediately said it was late and she had to get going. I said no problem and offered to walk her out. When we got to her car she eagerly hugged and thanked me giving me no time for a kiss, when we were exiting the hug I kept my hand on her waist and tried to turn her towards me while still embraced to go in for a kiss, but it ended up being kind of messy and she just pulled away and thanked me again.

Terrible, terrible performance fellas. I can't tell if I just got friend zoned. She texted me when she got home (I did not ask her to) and said:

HER: "Hi, I made it to my house. I loved our dinner. Thank you so much for having me there tonight."
ME: "I had a great time tonight too. Glad you made it home safe. Thank you for the dessert."
HER: "Sleep well (kissing emoji) Goodnight!! (kissing emoji)
ME: Good night, ____.
HER: (sends me the video of me eating the dessert with a smiley face emoji).


Anyone have any thoughts on the next logical step with this chick? If there is even salvaging it at this point... or do you think I'm wasting my time? My next guess would to be to ask her on another date this weekend, but a PUBLIC one. And if no kissing or kino happens, then next her.


Thanks boys.

What @Hank Moody said. Do not initiate or contact. Wait for her to invest in you. If she doesn't either low interest or not worth making the effort.

Modern Man Advice

 

[Alexandre Lucas]

Hi! I am from Brazil
Here in Brazil it's a little easier, in some meetings I don't even need to use negs, but that's not a rule. It's good to say that in brazil there is a game in which almost no neg is used, some brazilian puas are 7 amor, nerd sedudor and gambit, I recommend watching. She had the video recorded because generally Brazilians like to see people from other countries tasting Brazilian food if you research it on youtub you will understand, I suggest going on a close date with her if she doesn't leave the kino she is wanting to take advantage of some your thing.

 

[SirBigBell]

Am i the only one thinking she requested video recording because she didnt feel safe enough alone with you? The request was very well presented to make sure you werent offended, but i feel it was for security purposes.
I’d next this one

 

[TheNewStyle123]

UPDATE:

We ended up talking sporadically throughout the day yesterday. Like @Old Balls suggested I did not ask out right away. Around 6PM I asked what she was doing this weekend and offered a date/time/location. She replied around 10PM that my plan sounded really fun but she will be away this weekend, but we definitely need to set up a weekend to do that in the future.

Like @Hank Moody and @Modern Man Advice said, now I think it is time for silence and distance, especially because it took her so long to get back when I offered the plan. I am not going to respond and see what happens from here.

 

[derby1]

low interest, used for non sexual attention, dont worry they do it all the time, life will troll her in epidemic proportions.

also in future dont let a woman include you in any vids or pics ( in under 4 months), she would think you were a full on creep if you asked her to be included in a pic or vid.

 

[bat soup]

UPDATE:

We ended up talking sporadically throughout the day yesterday. Like @Old Balls suggested I did not ask out right away. Around 6PM I asked what she was doing this weekend and offered a date/time/location. She replied around 10PM that my plan sounded really fun but she will be away this weekend, but we definitely need to set up a weekend to do that in the future.

Like @Hank Moody and @Modern Man Advice said, now I think it is time for silence and distance, especially because it took her so long to get back when I offered the plan. I am not going to respond and see what happens from here.

This girl is FOS. She came over to your house but all she did was chit chat and waste your time with a bunch of BS. Somehow she avoided giving you any opportunity to escalate (don't believe that's by accident, it actually takes a lot of concious effort and strategy to do that without making it totally obvious).

Again she´s kokblocking you with the phone and messages. And when it comes down to business, when it comes down to actually making plans she´s..... busy. I'm Busy = I'm totally full of SHEEEEEEEEEEEET.

 

[bat soup]

Am i the only one thinking she requested video recording because she didnt feel safe enough alone with you? The request was very well presented to make sure you werent offended, but i feel it was for security purposes.
I’d next this one

That was just probably one of her BS strategies to kockblock him whilst extracting free male attention. What is she scared of? That he'd try to kiss her, that he'd try to make a move? And why would she be scared of that if she's on Hinge looking for hookups? She probably did that to avoid giving him the chance to make a move, so that she wouldn't have to reject him and make it totally obvious that she had no interest.

 

[TheNewStyle123]

low interest, used for non sexual attention, dont worry they do it all the time, life will troll her in epidemic proportions.

also in future dont let a woman include you in any vids or pics ( in under 4 months), she would think you were a full on creep if you asked her to be included in a pic or vid.

This girl is FOS. She came over to your house but all she did was chit chat and waste your time with a bunch of BS. Somehow she avoided giving you any opportunity to escalate (don't believe that's by accident, it actually takes a lot of concious effort and strategy to do that without making it totally obvious).

Again she´s kokblocking you with the phone and messages. And when it comes down to business, when it comes down to actually making plans she´s..... busy. I'm Busy = I'm totally full of SHEEEEEEEEEEEET.

Damn, I'm pissed. That was a pretty beta attempt on my part, but I wonder if the outcome would of been the same regardless. Well, I won't be reaching out to her again. The thing that sucks the most was I was super attracted to her. Her personality was good and her ass... wow. Oh well, onto the next. Good learning experience. Hope she enjoyed the free fuucking Brazilian food lol.

 

[bat soup]

Damn, I'm pissed. That was a pretty beta attempt on my part, but I wonder if the outcome would of been the same regardless. Well, I won't be reaching out to her again. The thing that sucks the most was I was super attracted to her. Her personality was good and her ass... wow. Oh well, onto the next. Good learning experience. Hope she enjoyed the free fuucking Brazilian food lol.

These types of women are really annoying. I think you'll find a higher percentage of them on dating sites than in normal everyday life because normal women don't need that much attention. The ones that do this are the real attention junkies and essentially they have something seriously wrong with them.

I'd consider this women extremely low priority. You have to consider her something like an idiot, a drug addict or a clown, based on her behavior. She's probably going around doing the same thing to a whole bunch of guys and getting off on the attention, showing off to her equally stupid friends etc.

But as long as you don't make the mistake of considering her important, what she does doesn't really matter, does it?

It kind of reminds me of a woman I met once from Tinder that sat down at a cafe with me and when I tried to touch her hand she pulled it away. From that point onwards, I considered her an idiot and a timewaster. I like to do stuff like that as a test. I touch them or come close and I watch their reaction. I watch a woman's behavior and I notice things like if they put their handbag between us as a barrier or where they choose to sit. Women like to do these things that seem subtle because often they want the attention but they don't want anything to actually happen, so they do all of these little things to prevent things from moving forward. These things are deliberate, whether conscious or not. Imagine how easy it would be to make a on a girl that comes and sits close to you, that leans in against you. That's what women do when they like you. It's so easy its almost effortless.

You can't ask a woman if she likes you - because they will just lie or avoid the question, based on what they want you to think. You have to observe their behavior and if they claim to like you, you have to make them prove it.