Interesting. Well... I guess I am a value giver.... and I strive to bring other 'value givers' in my life. This is true with business relations, personal relations, really anything.
The thing to remember... and really at this point I am talking about business... but it translates into personal relations as well. But if people I am in business with are not as productive as they can be, or what they are getting from me is not meeting their requirements, then I know I'm ALWAYS going to have to be looking for them to stab me in the back at some point... or always having to guard against them working the edges to make up for this perceived short-coming... it could be padding invoices... adding 'additional fees', being late with delivers... cutting back on quality... et. al. You might be getting a good deal, but if your partner isn't... well it is an unstable relationship.
I had to fire GE as a customer once because of this, I was told "Nobody fires GE." But every year they were asking for price cuts... always threating me that they would 'go to China', I tried this juggling act for a couple of years, and when I realized I wasn't really making any money with them, and I had already built in as many efficiencies that I could... well... they had to go. What this allowed me to do is freed up my time to pursue other clients. Too many people find themselves in business/personal relations where they give give give.
Now I do not want this to turn into a sh1t show of a political food fight. But if you have the book "Art of the Deal", by D.J. Trump, toss that piece of cr@p in the fire. The approach in the book is really a terrible way to run relations. It teaches that you always push push push for what you want and when you don't get what yo want, then walk away and mean it. Sometimes you HAVE to do this, but if you find yourself in a situation where a win-win is possible, this is always the best way to go long term. I have experience doing business with the Trump Organization, and to be completely honest, he runs his business like he is a hot chick. You give them a price, they low ball the sh1t out of your offer, you go back... sharpen your pencil... you might be able to give them SOMETHING without lowering quality, and you counter with lower price and try to negotiate lower requirements to match... they come back and say "No... we are Trump, if you want to do business with us, then you will meet our demand and price." At that point you have to decide if doing business with Trump is worth working your butt off and not make money (i.e. getting what you want). Now you can see what happens to A LOT of the people who do contracting for him. They get into 'handshake' agreements, and then he screws them on the back end by not paying them.
The "Hot Chick" does not negotiate... her value is that you have the opportunity to be with her... that's fvcking it. You walk away from her and she just loads up another sucker. Now if all you care about is getting a trophy chick, who is going to look good on your arm... go for it. I know guys like this... they are completely happy that they are just getting used for cash and prizes.... BUT they can claim they have a hot GF, who hands out boring sex like Scooby Snacks. Then I guess you have your win-win. Sometimes these Sugar Baby relations are just great.
Anyway... being a value giver means you are getting what you want, and you are aware of whatever the other person wants, this means knowing yourself and knowing what ever 'partner' you have then give what they need, and get what you want. But if you are only aware of what you want without consideration for what they want then your 'relationship' will only be short term, and/or you should not be surprised when you get cheated on. So really if all you care about is banging as many chicks as you can you really don't need to worry about value giving. If you are a chick... and all you care about is getting as many cash and prizes that you can from men... again... value giving isn't relevant.
Sorry for the wall of text, but this is a complicated topic.
