Calling is so much better than Texting

[Georgepithyou]

Old School players were so right! I decided to just call this girl instead of texting her. We had a really great conversation and easly secured a date for this thursday. Instead of some boring text with useless banter i just called her and was really direct on the phone.

I finally understand why old school players suggest we call and never text, i feel like for people with terrible text game like me we should avoid it as much as possible.

From now on I will just call every girl instead of texting.

 

[Josh Davidson]

Old School players were so right! I decided to just call this girl instead of texting her. We had a really great conversation and easly secured a date for this thursday. Instead of some boring text with useless banter i just called her and was really direct on the phone.

I finally understand why old school players suggest we call and never text, i feel like for people with terrible text game like me we should avoid it as much as possible.

From now on I will just call every girl instead of texting.

Which would you recommend if someone is bad at both text game and conversations?

 

[SW15]

I agree but with a big if. If you are able to get the woman to answer the phone. Starting in the early 2010s, I found that more challenging.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

The reason why you like calling over texting, is because women have no plausible deniability in phone calls, they can't say "Oh I didn't see that" or "Oh I didn't know".

The phone call is a great test, if she never entertains a phone call you are dealing with somebody who will lie by omission and look for any plausible deniability that exists which means you always need to be asking her questions and getting the full story, it's exhausting but if you don't, she won't have a need to lie, at least if you can catch her in a lie you know for sure this isn't it

 

[In2theGame]

Talking on the phone is much much more preferable IMO however it's a double edge sword. It's definitely a lost art and I personally love it.

Modern day guys may not be comfortable doing that because it's not the norm in today's dating scene. I was growing up in the 1980/90's so that was the norm and one of the things I loved about it was that you can hear the girl's enthusiasm about you by giggling and laughing. I miss it most because I used to get girls playing with their pvssies lol.

On the other hand, it could work against you if you sound weird or "creepy" on the phone. If you fumble the phone call, I'm willing to guarantee that she may text you the next day or the day after that and flake because she's going to immediately text/call her girl friend(s) and tell them you sounded "weird" on the phone. It's never happened to me but I know for a fact Women will do this.

If you have a smooth, calm, Manly voice... her enthusiasm about you and meeting up with you will definitely increase. This HAS happened to me and after the call, she immediately texted me saying "I really liked your voice, look forward to seeing you!"

Work on your conversation skills and tonality. You'll be good to go.

 

[HaleyBaron]

The girls who were into me always wanted me to call them. If the girls wants you to call her, she will answer. It's a mixed bag when they dont have sexual interest in you.

 

[Lookatu]

Calling is real time and there is the tone component to talking that you can't get from texting. It's hard to bs each other in real time.
As @In2theGame stated though, it can work against you if you're socially awkward or don't have good conversation skills.

It can definitely help you though if you're quick witted, have a good voice, are funny, and just good in general conversations.

One thing though to novices is that you have to know how to answer and pass all phone $hit tests they may give you. This could be the difference in getting a date or not. This is where quick thinking, wit, and humor come into play.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Calling is real time and there is the tone component to talking that you can't get from texting. It's hard to bs each other in real time.
As @In2theGame stated though, it can work against you if you're socially awkward or don't have good conversation skills.

It can definitely help you though if you're quick witted, have a good voice, are funny, and just good in general conversations.

One thing though to novices is that you have to know how to answer and pass all phone $hit tests they may give you. This could be the difference in getting a date or not. This is where quick thinking, wit, and humor come into play.

"This is where quick thinking, wit, and humor come into play."

Which a lot of boys unfortunately were not trained to do. I picked it up from being around the right people, but I suspect these days, most boys don't have the environment that lets them practice that.

 

[Barrister]

I think calling to set up the date is always preferable. However, for rapport building with little effort texting is actually preferable. Calling just to call comes off needy. But you can send an easy text that’s light-hearted here or there.

Use both.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Old School players were so right! I decided to just call this girl instead of texting her. We had a really great conversation and easly secured a date for this thursday. Instead of some boring text with useless banter i just called her and was really direct on the phone.

I finally understand why old school players suggest we call and never text, i feel like for people with terrible text game like me we should avoid it as much as possible.

From now on I will just call every girl instead of texting.

It just means you suck at texting. Do what works for you, but people who suck at texting need to stop claiming something is better just because they aren't good at it.

I do both and am very good with both. The goal should be to excel at both, not pretend one method is better because both work well when done right.

 

[Rocnavy]

Calling is the best, but most girls don't pick up the phone and will see you as needy or too invested because you've called. When it works, it works but most of the time I think it's better not to call.
I will try it again next time.

Not true calling a woman will not make you looked needy now if you're constantly calling and she's not answering then yeah but nothing wrong with calling once or maybe twice and if she don't answer just leave her a text or voice-mail and let her call you back. If she doesn't return your call then that mean she's not interested in you.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Old School players were so right! I decided to just call this girl instead of texting her. We had a really great conversation and easly secured a date for this thursday. Instead of some boring text with useless banter i just called her and was really direct on the phone.

I finally understand why old school players suggest we call and never text, i feel like for people with terrible text game like me we should avoid it as much as possible.

From now on I will just call every girl instead of texting.

Beautiful! Old school is everything, man.

Texting is only used for very, very briefs exchanges. Calling is an act of confidence and actual personal effort. And real-life interactions are what humans were meant for.

Proud of you brother and I'm glad you see the value of it.

Modern Man Advice

 

[corrector]

There is more finality and less ambiguity with a call.

 

[Mike32ct]

I prefer the phone where possible.

But even women my age (Gen X) are active text-ers in my experience. They like the convenience and the privacy associated with avoiding a voice conversation. I can understand that.

So it’s probably like 80% text and 20% voice phone with many of them.

 

[Georgepithyou]

I wouldn't do that. I think you got lucky, trying to call is counter productive, unless you had a very deep connection with the girl you've met. I would try to call after you've established some "comfort" by text, when it's clear that there is something going between you and her.
I would avoid calling right off the bat after getting the #.

I met her on OLD we had a bit of texting and i asksd for her number, instead of texting i just called

 

[derby1]

they don't like random calls from guys because they are in a weak situation where they can't control the interaction. They can't play little games on the phone because it's live.

who cares what they like, I wont meet a woman anymore unless shes spoke to me on the phone first. The ones who have failed to speak on the phone are always the ones , who faff around, and withdraw the goods/flake

Comply or bye

 

[Georgepithyou]

they don't like random calls from guys because they are in a weak situation where they can't control the interaction. They can't play little games on the phone because it's live.

Also with texting, they can text a dozen guys at the same time. With calling you have her full attention. It was a lot easier to get a conversation going as well.

who cares what they like, I wont meet a woman anymore unless shes spoke to me on the phone first. The ones who have failed to speak on the phone are always the ones , who faff around, and withdraw the goods/flake

Comply or bye

100% on the money here

 

[derby1]

100% on the money here

Also you will msg something fun, you would have meant with a smile on your face,(perhaps not worded 100% perfect) and her ego protected by social media will think you are ridiculing her

 

[Glassguy]

To text or call? Interesting question. Both should have their place in the way you communicate with women.
Calling:
*I never cold call a chick. I will only call after some texting. Its super awkward to just call out of the blue after getting her number. Calling is for setting up a date. And why would you just call someone to ask them out on a date as the first interaction when they have clearly not done anything warranting us being interested in them to the point we want to spend our valuable time with them?
*I generally will call a chick for the first time while I know she is on her phone and available. If she texts me something like "oh im just hanging out at home", I will call. I spend a lot of time driving, so I generally just say "hey what's up....I'm driving so I can't text....." when she answers.
On the flip side, if I know she just texted me and immediately rejects my call, I WILL NOT reach out to her again (both text and call) until I hear back from her. Or never again.....either is fine. If she tries to text me right after I call, I just text back "I'm driving....give me a call later". Make her invest by calling you back.
*I keep a phone call to under 5 minutes. During that 5 minutes I am paying attention to her excitement level of me calling, if she can hold a conversation, how she sounds, etc. On more than dozens of occasions I have not contacted or replied to a chick after a 5 minute phone call if she sounds bored, stupid, manly voice, etc. I just disappear.
During that 5 minutes, I make sure it's light conversation and invite her for a drink. Its a yes, counter offer or I'm gone. "I'll let you know", "we'll see".....they don't hear from me again. Unless they reach back out in a timely manner to let me know they are free.
*I only call once. No more calling until we meet. Period. If she calls me between my initial phone call and the date, I keep it to a 5 minute, light convo. Tell her I gotta run and see her at the date.
*People can hide a boring/lackluster personality on text. I want to see how she talks before I go drop $40 on an appetizer and drinks.

Texting:
*Less is best
*Totally ok to set up a date over text. Get the date (set it up within the next 3 days) and then sit back and see if she reaches out. If she does, light banter ("Hey you...thinking about me again I see?) and then get back off your phone. Less is best.
*No deep/serious conversations over text. Or on a date. Or ever. Keep it light and fun.
*I sporadically use 2 emojis in text. Wink face and thinking face. That's it. No "LOL" and for crying out loud, no kissy face emojis. Less is best.
*Texting is NOT going to work wonders for you if you are needy, overtalkative through text, not witty, not direct. After a few messages, simply say "seems like we have some things in common. Let's grab a drink and see if there is some vibe when we are together"....set up the date and back off.

Both texting and calls have their purpose and both work. I'm better on the phone than I am texting but I can do both.

The main thing is, and I know this blows some guy's minds......I am screening HER to see if I want to meet in person. And I would much rather waste 5 minutes of my life calling a chick than spend an hour talking face to face to a boring @ss chick while paying to fill her belly full of potato skins and $8 drinks, while I wish I was doing something else more productive than talking to a rock for personality. I can get a great gauge on a chick's personality through that 5 min call. And its ok to ghost after the call and not waste your time on a date with her, when you could spend that time meeting another or doing something you like doing.

Abundance is a good thing. Be picky. Use both text and calls to screen and qualify these women to see if they're worth your time.

 

[Kotaix]

You can't communicate properly over texting, this is not a surprise to me at all. You take all emotion and context out of the communication.

Most people won't answer the phone nowadays, there is a risk to it, but there are six billion women out there. If she won't answer, next.