Everyone Should Read This Thread

[SargeMaximus]

Thank you for proving my point, this is the problem right here, anyone who thinks purpose is not relevant has not read the DJ Bible at all

I’ve been reading it. I’m not making the connection. Unless I’m reading the wrong one

 

[Dash Riprock]

It's unrealistic to think or worse, to require, newbies to read the entire DJ Bible or whatever, and then start posting.

Somebody said it earlier, if the basic/simp/girls 101-type questions bother you, move on. I do read some of these posts and chuckle and shake my head, but I was probably there at 21 or 22 too. Maybe even worse as you had to learn on the streets and by LOTS of trial and mostly error as there was no internet or dating coaches or whatever.

I actually don't mind helping some of the newbies who PM me who are looking to learn and get better and are coachable. The SS members that get under my skin (and they know who they are...) are newer members who argue, argue, argue, have to always be right, argue some more, throw around insults, etc. F*ck, reminds me of the gf I dumped a while back, feminine as hell. Just STFU already, ok? Good thing is they usually don't last long as people tune them out or they get banned or just quit.

Remember, every NFL Hall of Famer was a dumb rookie at one point in their career.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

It's unrealistic to think or worse, to require, newbies to read the entire DJ Bible or whatever, and then start posting.

Somebody said it earlier, if the basic/simp/girls 101-type questions bother you, move on. I do read some of these posts and chuckle and shake my head, but I was probably there at 21 or 22 too. Maybe even worse as you had to learn on the streets and by LOTS of trial and mostly error as there was no internet or dating coaches or whatever.

I actually don't mind helping some of the newbies who PM me who are looking to learn and get better and are coachable. The SS members that get under my skin (and they know who they are...) are newer members who argue, argue, argue, have to always be right, argue some more, throw around insults, etc. F*ck, reminds me of the gf I dumped a while back, feminine as hell. Just STFU already, ok? Good thing is they usually don't last long as people tune them out or they get banned or just quit.

Remember, every NFL Hall of Famer was a dumb rookie at one point in their career.

I disagree, like this is not a complex thing when you are following through on what you are reading, it is when you do not understand, that is fine and there is room for that, but when you are being combative, without understanding, to me that says you have no will to learn and we can't fix that.

For some people, context is going to help, but for others, unless they apply it themselves they have no hope of understanding why, for example, being unavailable is a good strategy or as another poster said, acting so aloof that you never offer any validation.

At the end of the day, if those people want to maintain a losing strategy, that is fine, as you say, we can just ignore those people, but when those same people start trying to coach others, that is when I feel the need to check that guy, 100%, if everyone did read the DJ Bible, it would not be an issue, but this thread exists because I understand not everyone does, so im failing to see what you are conveying, other than ignore posters, which I mean, giving bad info when you have the info at your finger tips, like this is just laziness.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

I’ve been reading it. I’m not making the connection. Unless I’m reading the wrong one

I know. I'm aware. You do not make approaches; you do not apply the information you are reading, like your understanding is on you, it's not my job to hold your hand and guide you, when you really have no intent on understanding, you want the easy way and this is where the easy way gets you, so enjoy it I guess, your choosing it for yourself, your not a victim.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

In my opinion this should be required reading in order:

(1) Book of Pook and/or The Rational Male. - (preferable both) This give you a baseline on what is reality. These are a bit more philosophical, but they do a good job of explaining male/female behavior and the consequences of ignoring reality. Recommend reading both. Once you have an understanding of what is REALLY going on you can move onto applying what you have learned.

(2) DJ Bible: This is a great link between the theoretical and philosophical to practical execution. The underlying theme of the DJ Bible is to STOP pretending to be something else and how to shape your mindset and life to be more interesting and attractive. Many don't like it because it isn't a magic pill.

(3) No More Mister Nice Guy: Since many men that have had trouble with inferiority and operate until the illusion that being a supplicating piece of sh1t, is a legitimate way to get chicks to like you. This is a great guide that provides some actionable objective steps to break you of this bad habit.

(4) The System: There is a lot of stuff out there that gives advice on dating and dealing with women. But ALL of the really good books and approaches have at it's core, stuff Tom Hodges identified decades ago. Read this with the understanding that Doc Love wrote in this guide it was mostly 'dating with a purpose' for men, and the purpose is finding a relationship. If you are not interested in a relationship, this is a great book for you. If you aren't, it is still very useful because he is 100% correct on what really attracts women, what turns them off, and how not to get sucked into of sh1t show of a situation where you are busting you @ss trying to keep some low-interest chick interested as she uses the fvck out of you.

After that, well keep reading... I would recommend a number of book completely unrelated to dating that will improve you life and interpersonal relations. How to Win Friends and Influence People, What Every Body is Saying: An ex-FBI Agent's Guide to Speed Reading People. Seven Habits of Highly Effective People. et al ad infinitum.

The bottom line is the women are human beings, and they respond favorably to really the same things we do, the only real difference is that when it comes to sexual attraction, they are different from men. But generally, if you can interrelate well with people in general, you will do fine with women. The problem is that to many me think of chicks like magical creatures that have to be figured out. The simple truth is that women are VERY easy to read, and infinitely more predictable than men, the only problem with dudes trying to get them is that we let our egos get in the way of understanding what is happening and what they are communicating to us.


https://www.amazon.com/What-Every-B...w+to+read+body+language&qid=1622218955&sr=8-3

Reading is good, however if the person is not going to apply any of it, it is a waste of time for them. Videos, reading, forum posts, none of this is going to build social skills and we need to be honest with posters about that, without the hard work, none of it matters.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Most of the must-read content was made before APPS/social media/ONLYFANS and before PUA became heavily discredited and demonized making all of the content feel dated and not up with the times. Unless there is new content for the pandemic/post-pandemic/social media/APP day and age today, then people should be excused for not reading this material before making threads to the extent that modern technology and cultural trends have upended all of the previous social constructs.

Black-pill threads at least acknowledge this fact and feel the dating market is skewed to a point that the looks vs game argument appears to be settled. If you get high-interest woman, then she likes you despite your game because she's attracted to your looks and you can do no wrong. If you get rejected, or ignored, then no matter what game you run it won't work on her because she knows what she's worth and how many options she has via social media and dating apps. This spills even into real life and affects everything including cold approaches. The issue is there doesn't feel like there is that much middle ground where most of the focus used to be converting a low-interest hb 8+ because that doesn't seem realistic anymore.

I do not understand the purpose of being a black pill here, like if you are aware there is nothing here for you that you are gonna act on, yet you spend your time here anyways, that is your first problem... Time is important, self development is not something that happens on its own.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I know. I'm aware. You do not make approaches; you do not apply the information you are reading, like your understanding is on you, it's not my job to hold your hand and guide you, when you really have no intent on understanding, you want the easy way and this is where the easy way gets you, so enjoy it I guess, your choosing it for yourself, your not a victim.

I’ve made hundreds of approaches. The stuff I tried didn’t work. I been over this. I get laid doing my method, not the approach way you claim is so superior.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

I’ve made hundreds of approaches. The stuff I tried didn’t work. I been over this. I get laid doing my method, not the approach way you claim is so superior.

Things not working during an approach is apart of game. Period. You don't quit. You find a way. You found a way, great, this is something every single man has to do at some point.

The reason why the DJ Bible is celebrated, is because it has worked for so many. Yes, the method is superior and you haven't offered anything otherwise and I don't think you will. Most of you won't.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Things not working during an approach is apart of game. Period. You don't quit. You find a way. You found a way, great, this is something every single man has to do at some point.

The reason why the DJ Bible is celebrated, is because it has worked for so many. Yes, the method is superior and you haven't offered anything otherwise and I don't think you will. Most of you won't.

It wasn’t superior for me obviously. And I have offered up my game style here and there. I posted some things I realized we’re working for me in my journal and I post pics of the convos I have with girls.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

It wasn’t superior for me obviously. And I have offered up my game style here and there. I posted some things I realized we’re working for me in my journal and I post pics of the convos I have with girls.

Well that sounds like a very big deal to me, and I'd love to hear more, rather you just speaking in generalities, post your knowledge in here, let's get it added to DJ Bible.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Well that sounds like a very big deal to me, and I'd love to hear more, rather you just speaking in generalities, post your knowledge in here, let's get it added to DJ Bible.

I posted some in my journal like I said, as I figure out more I’ll for sure share them. Cheers

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

I posted some in my journal like I said, as I figure out more I’ll for sure share them. Cheers

Not even gonna drop a link? You don't seem very confident here

 

[SargeMaximus]

Not even gonna drop a link? You don't seem very confident here

I knew that was your angle. No I’m not gonna drop a link.

 

[corrector]

I do not understand the purpose of being a black pill here, like if you are aware there is nothing here for you that you are gonna act on, yet you spend your time here anyways, that is your first problem... Time is important, self development is not something that happens on its own.

You have ignored my post and attacked me instead. So I'll just reiterate what I just wrote. Why are you complaining that people not reading OUTDATED content that has no bearing in today's world or today's dating market. What is written 10+ years ago is ancient today because those days are gone.

 

[RangerMIke]

Reading is good, however if the person is not going to apply any of it, it is a waste of time for them. Videos, reading, forum posts, none of this is going to build social skills and we need to be honest with posters about that, without the hard work, none of it matters.

Agreed. Coaching and knowledge only takes you so far. If you want to be an expert at anything you MUST practice. The best teacher is failure, and that is my advice.... get out there and FAIL. Fail hard... fall hard... learn from mistakes... do it again. The simple truth is if you really want to get good with women, you are doing to have to screw up with a lot of them.

If anyone believes that they can read all this and 'magically' become successful, they are living in a dream world. You have to exercise a little self-disciple... bust your @ss improving your life... bust your @ss working out in the gym... and practice.

If they come on this forum asking how to 'fix' something with a woman giving them trouble... they are asking the wrong question. You should FORGET about the women that isn't doing what they want, or giving them trouble... a better question should be why do they care about THIS ONE CHICK. In most cases, the problem is they tried to make something happen that was NEVER going to happen in the first place.... they don't know how to screen out women or let them go.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

You have ignored my post and attacked me instead. So I'll just reiterate what I just wrote. Why are you complaining that people not reading OUTDATED content that has no bearing in today's world or today's dating market. What is written 10+ years ago is ancient today because those days are gone.

I don't attack people, I ask questions and look for answers, just because you don't have an answer for me, does not mean I'm attacking you, it means your defensive because I've hit a soft spot, if I insult you, there won't be any doubt in your mind I have and I'll own up to it, I'm not scared, most of you have nothing for me intellectually and I'm not hesitant to say that.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

I knew that was your angle. No I’m not gonna drop a link.

My angle is your a bullsh1tter and you wont drop the link, because you got nothing to say that hasn't been said.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

You have ignored my post and attacked me instead. So I'll just reiterate what I just wrote. Why are you complaining that people not reading OUTDATED content that has no bearing in today's world or today's dating market. What is written 10+ years ago is ancient today because those days are gone.

Like seriously, we're not communicating telepathically, we're not levitating, we're still required to do the same social dance we've always done, the only difference is you have more ways to waste your time than the past men did.

 

[zekko]

being on your purpose doesn’t work. I been on my purpose for years yet no women of the quality I want consistently.

I've always thought that it depends on what your purpose is, when it comes to whether or not it is likely to get you women.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

I'll hold my hands up and say I've never read the DJ Bible.

Also newbie questions get a lot of engagement due to the fact we are social creatures, believe it or not, people like helping and responding to newbie questions and engaging in conversation on a forum, regardless if, in your opinion, the thread is unworthy.

Was it BigDave? The best balding car salesmen who was 5'6 and wanted an Armenian wife? Would post the same **** and get 20 page threads lol, yes he was trolling but it was fun and engaging. Maybe he's banned now, I missed a lot of gossip on the forum including the well know poster whose girlfriend found it and forced him to quit, he's lucky I forgot his screen name as not doubt she's refreshing this site for any mention haha!

There are no cast-iron rules here, only opinions. I agree with @zekko and let's not forget, the majority, ideas like democracy, doesn't make it factual/correct. It could be a bunch of heartbroken sheep, peddling black pill nonsense (I see that a lot here) when what they really need is real-life experience.

This forum is too black and white when that is never the case when dealing with human emotion, you haven't cracked the code, one size doesn't fit all.

Hey I glossed over your post before, my bad, trying to respond as much as I can.

Behavior and the study of it, is black and white to me, there is not any room for nuance, we might consciously believe we do things for no reason, but on a subconscious level, I don't believe we just do things, everything has a purpose, small or large.

Women don't even possess that many levels of emotion, they might be emotional, but they just cycle through them. A woman's emotions mean nothing, they can change so quickly that if you give stock to them, you'll be broke in no time.

I do whole heartedly believe things are black and white between men and women.