Player friend said he makes women wait

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I thought this was interesting. I was talking with a buddy of mine today who is very good with women, and he said when you're dating a woman and they want to get physical, they will let you know. I asked him to elaborate.

He was like "Making a move on them doesn't turn them on, waiting for their emotions to get involved and having them wonder why you haven't made the move is what hooks them." I hadn't thought about it like that.

He's dating a solid 9 right now. I asked him "Doesn't it show confidence when you try to get physical with a girl quickly?" He said "No, it makes you look desperate."

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having them wonder why you haven't made the move is what hooks them."
because your showing through your eyes smile and vibe (being up in their space), that you wanna fck but your holding back. i agree this is powerful.
 

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I thought this was interesting. I was talking with a buddy of mine today who is very good with women, and he said when you're dating a woman and they want to get physical, they will let you know. I asked him to elaborate.

He was like "Making a move on them doesn't turn them on, waiting for their emotions to get involved and having them wonder why you haven't made the move is what hooks them." I hadn't thought about it like that.

He's dating a solid 9 right now. I asked him "Doesn't it show confidence when you try to get physical with a girl quickly?" He said "No, it makes you look desperate."

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Correct. This is consistent with what I see in the players & playboys I know well.

But. The guys I know are also unapologeticly bold for the lay when they do not care what she thinks.

So they deploy their charm according to their aim with any particular woman.
 

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I thought this was interesting. I was talking with a buddy of mine today who is very good with women, and he said when you're dating a woman and they want to get physical, they will let you know. I asked him to elaborate.

He was like "Making a move on them doesn't turn them on, waiting for their emotions to get involved and having them wonder why you haven't made the move is what hooks them." I hadn't thought about it like that.

He's dating a solid 9 right now. I asked him "Doesn't it show confidence when you try to get physical with a girl quickly?" He said "No, it makes you look desperate."

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If you start playing games like this, unless you really know what you're doing you're the one that is going to get played.

Most of the time what's going to happen if you wait is that she'll string you along for attention and/or free food and drink for as long as she can.
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Most of the time what's going to happen if you wait is that she'll string you along for attention and/or free food and drink for as long as she can.
will you stop with this LMAO.
 

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He's dating a solid 9 right now. I asked him "Doesn't it show confidence when you try to get physical with a girl quickly?" He said "No, it makes you look desperate."
It also makes you look gay.

Who has the time to get her emotions involved? If a man goes out with his dream girl, the girl he has always wanted. He has one night with her as he has to travel internationally the next day. Is he going to wait to try to get into her head or try to get her undressed as fast as possible?

I noticed on this site men think they have all the time in the world with girls. Remember, these girls are NOT virgins. If a girl is not taking off her clothes by the 2nd date, you move on.
 

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I thought this was interesting. I was talking with a buddy of mine today who is very good with women, and he said when you're dating a woman and they want to get physical, they will let you know. I asked him to elaborate.

He was like "Making a move on them doesn't turn them on, waiting for their emotions to get involved and having them wonder why you haven't made the move is what hooks them." I hadn't thought about it like that.

He's dating a solid 9 right now. I asked him "Doesn't it show confidence when you try to get physical with a girl quickly?" He said "No, it makes you look desperate."

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This is excellent advice to follow if you want to remain a virgin for life. Most women lack the confidence to make the first move physically.
 

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Waiting when you have other options and waiting when you have no other options are not the same thing, you can respond differently to a woman when you have options, you can literally do and say **** to her that guys without options can't, this is where the emotional investment on her end is created, when you can just freely walk away, your friend did not articulate himself very well, waiting around spending your time with her when you have no options is about the biggest turn off on her end and the biggest waste of time on yours.

This is why being on your purpose is preached here, because your unavailable, physically and emotionally... Like this is basic level **** you guys are having these revelations on, purpose purpose purpose, even for dudes who regularly have options, sometimes they won't, your purpose is always an option though.
 

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I thought this was interesting. I was talking with a buddy of mine today who is very good with women, and he said when you're dating a woman and they want to get physical, they will let you know. I asked him to elaborate.

He was like "Making a move on them doesn't turn them on, waiting for their emotions to get involved and having them wonder why you haven't made the move is what hooks them." I hadn't thought about it like that.

He's dating a solid 9 right now. I asked him "Doesn't it show confidence when you try to get physical with a girl quickly?" He said "No, it makes you look desperate."

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This will only work if you're absolutely sure that she wants you.

If you're not sure if she's attracted to you and you wait around trying to "play it cool" then you're just going to waste a lot of time dealing with girls that are not sexually attracted to you.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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The first night I spent with the woman that would be my wife I slept on the floor
next to her single bed in halls of residence at her Uni. My choice to do so, not hers.
I later learned this act spun her hamster wheel at 1 thousand miles per hour.
It's also why she pushed me up against a wall and blew me the following night
which was our first ever sexual encounter, I think I had only kissed her cheek
goodnight as I put her on a bus after one of our first nights out together.
I just don't approach, never have, never will. I don't know how to escalate a
platonic conversation/situation anyway.
 

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I would let Women know soon after I met them that I wanted to fvck them. I see through the bullsh!t façade Women put up and I know they crave d*ck just as much if not more than Men crave pvssy. The only time I would make a Woman "Wait" is when I was very busy with other Women or genuinely busy with important things in life.
 

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In my experience, making her wait doesn't work well at all. About the only time it works is when you are several leagues above her and you can tell she is really into you, and there has to be some sort of social circle dynamic involved too. By that I mean that you can't just see a hot girl on the street, approach her, go on a date with her, and then make her wait. Same goes for if you use a dating app or meet at a bar or something. Because in those situations, it's more than obvious why you are interacting with her, even if you are being indirect about it. The only exception to this is if the woman you meet has something major in common with you in which case you can pull her into the scenario I will describe in the next paragraph.

On the other hand, if you have a big social circle - let's say you play a hobby co-ed sport like volleyball or ultimate frisbee or something like that, and there is a girl in the circle you want to bang, you can make her wait because you have a genuine reason for having a platonic relationship with her: Your shared interest. You can be "bros". Without that, making her wait will make her think you are gay or make her feel rejected and will cause her to run and not give you another chance. I found this out the hard way after my divorce before I found the red pill. My blue pill brain washing had me in this mindset of moving very slow with women. I missed out on some great opportunities and looking back I fvcking cringe so hard at a few of the women where were initiating touch with me on dates - touching my leg, etc. Really hot ones too.... and there I was acting like their fvcking gay friend. It's the kind of thing that keeps you up at night these days.

There are two girls in my social circle who are single and who I know are interested in me. Neither of them are that attractive to me but I've picked up on their hints and their flirting and compliments. Just for fun, I like to mess with them by getting in their personal space to set something down or throw something in the garbage or grab a drink, etc. It's so fun to watch how nervous and excited it makes them. This is the kind of scenario where making them wait would work. If I were actually attracted to them, I could keep that stuff up but dial it up a bit by inviting them to more parties, group trips, get-togethers, etc, and give them even more attention, but not make an actual move until I saw they were going absolutely crazy.
 

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Found most of my sexual success with women by being bullish and leading, the passive approach was ok in my teens and early twenties, I got by on charm and looks, but still shy.

Now I don't care, I put no thought into it, go for what you want and ask questions later. If you don't someone else will. F*ck corny lines and faux smoothness, be confident and speak your mind, even if the mind says "I can't wait to f*ck you".
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I thought this was interesting. I was talking with a buddy of mine today who is very good with women, and he said when you're dating a woman and they want to get physical, they will let you know. I asked him to elaborate.

He was like "Making a move on them doesn't turn them on, waiting for their emotions to get involved and having them wonder why you haven't made the move is what hooks them." I hadn't thought about it like that.

He's dating a solid 9 right now. I asked him "Doesn't it show confidence when you try to get physical with a girl quickly?" He said "No, it makes you look desperate."

Thoughts, opinions?
He is right in a sense that like @Lookatu said if you can f**k their mind, you can f**k their bodies. Simple.

But the key is to understand when to pull back and when to push forward. Men that are very good with women understand those key moments when to pull and when to charge. It's a fine balance that is highly subjective from woman to woman. The other critical component is reading each woman and tailor the interaction according to the moment and woman.

Remember, what works on most women might not work on the next. Reading people is an art within itself.

But I wholeheartedly agree that always going for it and drooling over her is just plain desperate and certainly a turn-off for most women. So don't.

Overall, very good advice. And at the end of the day, your friend has the results to back that up. I'll take experience over theory any day.

Modern Man Advice
 

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It's about recognizing when they want you to make a move.

If you can hold eye contact, many times with experience you can gauge her level of interest (Is she hooked?)

Some of my best sexual tension building with women was at first meet in a crowded room where we eyef^cked one another until we were "finally alone" and our first physical touch was me kissing her in the elevator. Those moments are golden...
 

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It's about recognizing when they want you to make a move.

If you can hold eye contact, many times with experience you can gauge her level of interest (Is she hooked?)

Some of my best sexual tension building with women was at first meet in a crowded room where we eyef^cked one another until we were "finally alone" and our first physical touch was me kissing her in the elevator. Those moments are golden...
The key to making "making them wait" work is you have to establish sexual tension first. Let it hang in the air while she gets moist. Then, you wait for a moment to strike.
 

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The key to making "making them wait" work is you have to establish sexual tension first. Let it hang in the air while she gets moist. Then, you wait for a moment to strike.
Attraction is not a choice. She knows at first glance if she would have your babies or not. There’s nothing we have to “do.”
 

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There are many ways to kill a pvssycat.

You can fly from LA to NY directly, or you can get there via Toronto. In both scenarios the final destination is the same.

I aint got time to waste going via Toronto.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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