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It's not just about learning, the building of your approach game is very important but if your just gonna do a bunch of approaches then stop approaching, it's just a waste of time, maintenance is just as important as building, need to be doing it everyday
 

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try doing one approach a day, it would be a good start.
I'd actually recommend against that.

One each day would be starting from scratch.

See the first 5-6 per day to be a warm up, after that you can go through dozens no problem, get bolder, etc.

Good luck.
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

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Its good that you are have the luxury of time to approach women like that. You must use these opportunities while you are young and have the stamina and energy to do this.
 

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How big? Mine's 50,000. I've done like 15-16 approaches in the last month or so. I need to step it up and do more.
15,000 people. I will likely need to travel to complete my 1,000 approaches, in fact, I plan on it. I don't count past approaches before I declared I would do 1,000 approaches; if I did I would already be at 100+ approaches. (I once did 100 approaches in a year.)
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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It would take me 50 years or more to meet or even see 1000 women I'd even want to approach.
By then I'll be 98+ years old and needing more than Viagra to get it up. Dynamite maybe?
 

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15,000 people. I will likely need to travel to complete my 1,000 approaches, in fact, I plan on it. I don't count past approaches before I declared I would do 1,000 approaches; if I did I would already be at 100+ approaches. (I once did 100 approaches in a year.)
I see, just curious do you live in the united states and if so what state if you don't mind me asking?
 

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It would take me 50 years or more to meet or even see 1000 women I'd even want to approach.
By then I'll be 98+ years old and needing more than Viagra to get it up. Dynamite maybe?
These people consider "coughing" a hi and with the woman not hearing you and walking by an "approach". It doesn't mean an actual opener, routine/fluff talk and number close/insta-date. If you are talking about "real approaches" then it would probably be more like 50 out of 1000 fake approaches.
 

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I will be doing 1000 approaches in the future and will be writing about it and any lessons learned on this thread.
Keep a solid record of your interactions, success vs failure rate, etc. Your perception might deceive you and hard data is always good to have when doing such studies.

Needless to say, yes, please report back.

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Keep a solid record of your interactions, success vs failure rate, etc. Your perception might deceive you and hard data is always good to have when doing such studies.

Needless to say, yes, please report back.

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I once did this on a smaller scale with 100 approaches and got one phone number (she was a 9/10.) Then when I went to set up a meetup with her (3 days later) she told me that she met someone over the weekend.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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These people consider "coughing" a hi and with the woman not hearing you and walking by an "approach". It doesn't mean an actual opener, routine/fluff talk and number close/insta-date. If you are talking about "real approaches" then it would probably be more like 50 out of 1000 fake approaches.
I do not count a thing less than her hearing me ask for her number and having the chance (a very high chance) of being rejected as an approach, coughing a hi like you said would certainly not count as an approach in my book.
 

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Keep a solid record of your interactions, success vs failure rate, etc. Your perception might deceive you and hard data is always good to have when doing such studies.

Needless to say, yes, please report back.

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Ive been doing the same thing. 16 approaches so far, 3 gave snapchat but wouldn't add me back as a friend, 3 gave snap and did add me as a friend, 1 gave phone number, but only 1 of the 16 actually texted back to talk, and 0 have gone out with me. So 7 of 16 gave some type of contact info, 9 full rejections, but no real "successes" yet. Obviously 16 is a very low number though and I need to do a lot more. What are typical success rates?
 

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Ive been doing the same thing. 16 approaches so far, 3 gave snapchat but wouldn't add me back as a friend, 3 gave snap and did add me as a friend, 1 gave phone number, but only 1 of the 16 actually texted back to talk, and 0 have gone out with me. So 7 of 16 gave some type of contact info, 9 full rejections, but no real "successes" yet. Obviously 16 is a very low number though and I need to do a lot more. What are typical success rates?
Success rates are subjective. How you view success is different than the next person. I say you having the cojones to cold approach and having a meaningful conversation (regardless of contact or no contact) is a success. That is much farther than most men that too intimated to cold approach.

Getting a contact is a very relative success as most women will give out their contact without a genuine intention to connect further.

However, getting the 1st date out of that cold approach is a sure success (regardless of 2nd or 3rd date). Because that means that whatever conversation you had was meaningful enough to intrigue her imagination and interest in making the effort to get to know you.

Now going back to how I started, just having the cojones to cold approach, perfecting your "game", building that confidence is a success within of itself.

The bottom line is that nowadays is so hard to connect with a stranger that we simply don't dare to have a conversation without having an agenda and that it is a numbers game. Just accumulate those numbers with the mentality that you are learning not that you are going to get laid. But that is just me.

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Just generally speaking here...

Knock it off with the Snapchat, WhatsApp, and whatever other stupid apps for Millennials there are now.

And, you're 0 for 16. You say none went out with you.
okay fair enough, I"m 0 for 16. I disagree on the snapchat, as almost every girl 20-25 is on it and it's just another form of communication with extra features. Facebook and instagram on the other hand are stupid, timewasting apps that I'll never use.
 

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Success rates are subjective. How you view success is different than the next person. I say you having the cojones to cold approach and having a meaningful conversation (regardless of contact or no contact) is a success. That is much farther than most men that too intimated to cold approach.

Getting a contact is a very relative success as most women will give out their contact without a genuine intention to connect further.

However, getting the 1st date out of that cold approach is a sure success (regardless of 2nd or 3rd date). Because that means that whatever conversation you had was meaningful enough to intrigue her imagination and interest in making the effort to get to know you.

Now going back to how I started, just having the cojones to cold approach, perfecting your "game", building that confidence is a success within of itself.

The bottom line is that nowadays is so hard to connect with a stranger that we simply don't dare to have a conversation without having an agenda and that it is a numbers game. Just accumulate those numbers with the mentality that you are learning not that you are going to get laid. But that is just me.

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Thanks, I definitely need to work more on it for sure tho, still lots of anxiety and embarassment around approaching sometimes.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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