Why are there so many LTRs Between childless men and single moms?

[mrgoodstuff]

Women decide who the alphas are, not men. A man can't self-assess. It comes down to his results with women.

I don't believe, personally, that average men are getting hot women in the UK and USA otherwise forums like this wouldn't exist. I think you guys are bullsh1tting.

It's widely understood and well-known that most men can't get laid in the West with anything remotely considered to be an attractive woman.

There are also Alphas among men. The leaders and bosses.

 

[The Duke]

A. The thing I liked best about single moms is their kids kept them occupied so I could go do my own thing and not have to hear from them as much.

B. I see more care taking/nurturing traits in women with kids than most women with out. Something to think about.

C. I certainly wouldn't want to settle down with a woman who had kids, but it's not all horrible to date one.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

If your goal is to have a relationship with a woman where she doesn't fvck you much, and fvcks other guys behind your back, then by all means become a Beta Provider and facilitate her Beta Bux/Alpha Fux female mating strategy.

We all predicted you would regurgitate this same stereotypical talk.

It's because they want a reliable place to raise children in. And YOU don't break them away from this no matter how much you tell yourself that you do.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

That's a bit vague. Money (depending on how much = social proof), friends (social proof, but depends on who your friends are), social skills (Game).

This is more than most guys have. If you have an average income, weird/average friends and social skills that allow you to hold down an average job/average social circle then hot women aren't into that.

You guys need to stop fapping off and wake up. Nobody is banging hot women in this world without serious skillz and lifestyle maxxing ( and I mean banging hot women that aren't hookers @Guy69JackBlue ;-)).

I doubt the girls you're with would impress me at all.

Speaking of which, I was just reminiscing about my time in Budapest last year and how great it was. https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escorts/budapest/ I can't wait to go back there when travel opens up more.

You also don't see the gray area between "regular girls" and "hookers." You're also unwilling to admit that you're time and energy should be worth something too, because that makes all your points moot. (Especially when you consider that I've been with more, and more attractive, girls than you have and never had to go out to dinner with them).

Also, the value of money is relative. Jeff Bezos could spend $1,000,000 on hookers every year and wouldn't even notice it was gone.

Do you own your own business or you're employed by someone else?

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Women would prefer to raise an Alpha's kids as a single mom with a Beta step-dad. Even better if the cucked Beta step-dad doesn't even realise he's a step-dad.

Do you watch a lot of soap operas or something?

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Time and energy put into sex with a woman who actually desires you is always better time spent than inferior paid-for sex. We've already discussed this. You can pay for sex, but it's just not as satisfying as banging a woman you've seduced.

When you say "we've discussed this," what you actually mean is that you shout your crackpot theories and don't listen to people who disagree.

I've had sex for free and that I've paid for. It is no different. And if it is different, it's based on the characteristics of the girl (body size and shape, energy, etc.). It's not to do with whether cash was exchanged.

You say you've never paid cash for sex. So how could you claim to know about something you've never done?

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Yep. And woman want to fvck the leaders of men. It's one of the key indicators of Alpha-ness they look for

You're not a leader of anything. You just talk big.

And you don't have to lead other men to be alpha. You just have to not be in an interior position to another male. Most males prefer space to themself as they get older... Unless they have some weird Boy Scout leader fantasy which is kinda gay honestly.

Are you self-employed?

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I never claimed to lead anyone. I'm a Sigma. I don't lead anyone, and I don't follow anyone. I'm a lone wolf. I have plenty of guys who look up to me, but I don't have time to be a daddy and a mentor for Lost Boys like you. When you lead guys they latch onto you and depend on you. I don't like that responsibility.

I'm a lost boy? Haha. You're a joke.

Typical wannabe who tries to put others down every time he talks.

I would never listen to a word you said because I can tell how fraudulent you are. I have more life experience than you.

Tell me what your job is, Mr. Lexus.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I'm not disagreeing with you.. I agree with much of what you say. The thing I don't understand is that if an alpha male in the terms of intersexual dynamics is not equal to an alpha male in terms of male dominance hierarchies; why is it that financial/leadership status is an issue for acquiring females? One would think that all you need, is to be able to seduce females. Without status or money. These are traits of male dominance hierarchies not intersexual dynamics. Just because a marine can choke us all out doesn't make him an alpha in the eyes of a female. I don't see how "getting it" has anything to do with money or status. Isn't it all about speaking female sub communications.

You need to take into account the role that THE LAW plays in all interactions.

You think the Marine could choke you out? Only if he wants to spend the next 10+ years in prison. That is REALITY.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Engaging you in your childish debates has become a bit tiresome. We exist in different worlds. Discussing things logically with you is impossible because you're too emotional. It's like trying to have a logical discussion with a woman.

Actually, I try to keep things realistic, while you engage in name-calling and bullsh1t fantasy theory talk... Until I press you too hard for specifics and then you run away. Nothing has changed since day one.

Beta boy.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

The law doesn't matter if a man is willing to rape you. He is still the alpha to your beta if he can accomplish it. Regardless of the repercussions. In terms of male dominance hierarchies anyways.

It does, though.

These are not realistic situations you're talking about. And what guy goes around raping other guys. Wtf?

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Sharing personal details online, like you do, is beta approval-seeking behavior. I suggest you maintain a bit of anonymity. Who cares what people on an online forum think?

You need to care less what other people think. It's your major handicap. You've got short man syndrome.

You need to quit preaching, beta boy.

You know none of my personal details.

You don't have sufficient life experience to give advice to people.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Sharing personal details online, like you do, is beta approval-seeking behavior. I suggest you maintain a bit of anonymity. Who cares what people on an online forum think?

You need to care less what other people think. It's your major handicap. You've got short man syndrome.

At what point did I ask for your opinion about anything.

Haha. A Lexus. I see 100 of those every day.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I know you can't get laid without paying for it. That's not something I'd be sharing online and expect people to respect you for.

It just goes to show how socially unintelligent you are (which, I presume, is why you have to pay for sex).

It's been a while since I've seen a female worth investing any of my actual life in.

With hookers, there is zero investment. Not even a coffee date, which I don't have time for anyway.

And I won't believe the girls you're with are attractive unless it's proven.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I know you can't get laid without paying for it. That's not something I'd be sharing online and expect people to respect you for.

It just goes to show how socially unintelligent you are (which, I presume, is why you have to pay for sex).

I don't know how old you are... But most people after a certain age don't go around fvcking people without being in a relationship with them.

You're wannabe alpha fantasies do not match up to the reality of the world. You'll take every opportunity to talk about how amazing you are and how "beta" most guys are... But it's an obvious cover.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

You project a lot of accusations of "fake" and "fraudulent" onto others.

This is because your entire sex-life is paid for with Hookers, and is thus fake and fraudulent. Again, this is why banging Hookers is bad for you. Your subconscious sense of self worth hates it. You haven't experienced genuine desire from a woman and this hurts your soul.

It's okay, man. I find it difficult to feel anything other than sympathy for you.

And actually, I'm just trying to have FUN. Which is what it's supposed to be. Going out on dates and having little "ego matches" with some pretentious wannabe princesses is not my idea of fun.

And here's a story for you to illustrate the gray area that you don't acknowledge...

I used to drive a Porsche. There was a restaurant bar I used to go to. When I didn't drive the Porsche, the bartenders would just talk to me like a normal customer. When I drove it, one of them went outside and took a picture of it. She was very hot. Then next time I was there, they'd always try to make conversation with me. All of a sudden I'm a very interesting person. They would also apparently talk about me when I'm not there because one of the other bartenders called me an "over achiever" when I went back there without driving the Porsche and she never even saw it, except maybe the picture.

I didn't care to pursue any of this because it's fake. I sold the car because I hated the attention that I got everywhere. Now no one would know I had money just to look at me and that's fine. I'd rather put the money back into the business where it will compound into a large ROI.

And these girls were not hookers. But you see the gray area?

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I don't believe there was any time when the balance was perfect, but I never bought into the storyline that up until the 50s everything was great for men (or horrible for women if you're a feminist).

Without a doubt when men try to control female sexuality (which is impossible) you get fukked up relationships like you mention above, and they're harder to escape from. Leading by example and being willing to walk is always more effective than trying to restrain or force a woman's desires. There seems to be a line of thinking that "if only we could go back to before the sexual revolution, I could make a woman to be my wh0re and mine alone." This is just another blue pill masquerading as a red one. Of course these scenarios exist in many places today...some of the most fukked up and sexually impoverished countries in the world, IMO.

I heard a funny/interesting video on YouTube recently. (It's only funny because it was so long ago).

It was about the notion of medieval knights being chivalrous. In fact, they were the complete opposite. They were likely to rape, kidnap, forced marriage, and sometimes even murder if they want. They had unlimited power as long as they didn't upset the noble or king they owed allegiance to. Peasant women had no protection from them.

The Pope saw this and created a code of "chivalry" that he thought they should follow instead. The knights didn't listen. The romantic notion of chivalry never existed at any point in history.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You're not a leader of anything. You just talk big.

And you don't have to lead other men to be alpha. You just have to not be in an interior position to another male. Most males prefer space to themself as they get older... Unless they have some weird Boy Scout leader fantasy which is kinda gay honestly.

Are you self-employed?

I was just saying many Alphas are appointed by men. You don't even have to be a 100% Alpha. Be attractive, with a backbone and some common sense.

 

[Visionist]

A Lexus. I see 100 of those every day.

Depends on the Lexus he's driving/leasing.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Depends on the Lexus he's driving/leasing.

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It's still just a car.

And I'm hoping people can see the irony of driving a fancy car to show off wealth while also saying it's bad to pay escorts.