How are normal guys able to get women to submit

[FuzzX]

give her a compliance test, tell her where to meet you and what time (dont ask).
i make my live in gf ask me to use the bathroom, she asks everytime now

Jesus Christ man. That's not cool, the bathroom is somewhere you go to relax (literally). This is my favorite time of the day, I have a ton of Star Wars tech manuals in there. This is a place my wife and I share our love for. My dad has a TV in his washroom. My wife needs me to be close by (don't ask) to go, I need her to be out of the room and behind a locked door.

She was so curious, once she snuck under the bed to watch me go to the bathroom. I think this deserves it's own thread.

If I invited her to live in with me (which is a bad idea anyway)

Men and Women were meant to live together. You are creating the very thing you claim to be against.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

In reality, most guys aren't 6ft and taller, aren't making more than 100k, aren't living extraordinary lives or having hobbies, aren't charismatic , aren't in shape, yet they have wives, relationships, and etc. We act like being a beta/simp is akin to having the scarlet letter, but they are the ones with women and they don't know anything about the red pill or sites like these.

There are only 2 options:

1.) Be a beta provider
2.) Become a higher value man (Top 20%, keep in mind that this sounds more difficult then it is with todays competition)

 

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

Jesus Christ man. That's not cool, the bathroom is somewhere you go to relax (literally). This is my favorite time of the day, I have a ton of Star Wars tech manuals in there. This is a place my wife and I share our love for. My dad has a TV in his washroom. My wife needs me to be close by (don't ask) to go, I need her to be out of the room and behind a locked door.

She was so curious, once she snuck under the bed to watch me go to the bathroom. I think this deserves it's own thread.


Men and Women were meant to live together. You are creating the very thing you claim to be against.

no its ok dont trip man,its a mutual thing kind of like role playing, we set the boundaries and safe words and such . she is super submissive i cant really explain it , its kind of extreme

 

[Mike32ct]

The old theory was that “normie” couples typically met via social circle.

I have no idea how they do it today.

 

[RangerMIke]

In reality, most guys aren't 6ft and taller, aren't making more than 100k, aren't living extraordinary lives or having hobbies, aren't charismatic , aren't in shape, yet they have wives, relationships, and etc. We act like being a beta/simp is akin to having the scarlet letter, but they are the ones with women and they don't know anything about the red pill or sites like these.

There is nothing you can do that will cause a woman to do what you want or not do what you don't want.

All you can do is be the best version of yourself you can be, and then be a leader. Tell her what you want. If she goes along then great, if she doesn't go find one that will.

This is the biggest problem I have with PUAs and relationship coaches... it's an illusion. They want to convince you that there are things you can do to influence women because if they can convince you that there are actions you can take that will get results you want... then they can sell you the "secret" that they "learned" and teach you. These people do, IMO, identify behavior that turns most women off, and behavior that turns most women on.

Be the best version of yourself... eliminate bad habits that get in your way of success. It doesn't fvcking matter what you do. If you are a car mechanic... be the best godd@mn car mechanic in the world... take pride in your work and always be learning about new cars... get as many certifications that you can be. Build a reputation of someone that is honest and reliable... If you are a bank loan officer... be the best one in your bank... bust your butt... go out a beat the bushes for loan opportunities and be active with your borrowers and work with them so that they are successful to maintain your currency rate. If you are fat and out of shape, discipline yourself to eat right and exercise.' If you drink too much or smoke pot... stop that sh1t.

Date as many women as you can.

Be the leader... then see which of the women you date will follow. If she won't follow your lead... well you are either being used or she sees you only as a friend.

That's it! It really is that simple. Go get a copy of Doc Love's "The System" and read that again and again until it sinks in.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

give her a compliance test, tell her where to meet you and what time (dont ask).
i make my live in gf ask me to use the bathroom, she asks everytime now

Sounds like you have some serious issues bro.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Well how do I become the beta male provider, I'm done playing games with women?

 

[Glassguy]

Let me make this simple:

All women submit.

Who they submit to is based on that person's value, status, looks, social status,etc compared to her's.

If you are her best option and your frame requires that she submit, she will submit. If not, she wont.

There are liberal feminist women who wont submit to a man, but probably would submit to a butch type women lol.

 

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

Sounds like you have some serious issues bro.

its roleplaying lol

 

[mrgoodstuff]

By being her sexual preference.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

its roleplaying lol

Haha...OK I was about to say...

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

In reality, most guys aren't 6ft and taller, aren't making more than 100k, aren't living extraordinary lives or having hobbies, aren't charismatic , aren't in shape, yet they have wives, relationships, and etc. We act like being a beta/simp is akin to having the scarlet letter, but they are the ones with women and they don't know anything about the red pill or sites like these.

Game recognizes game.

I too was once blue pill. That part of me has been severed and died in my many years of cold approach pickup. you can't help but see female nature as it is. Not how you wish it were. The volume of pickup gives way to female nature. The ability to decipher choosing signals and IOIs is tell tale after how many approaches? A decade of pickup is overkill. Needless to say I got the bumper sticker.

She comes feminine submissive and dtf or next. comply or bye. Pull or #next. Chain gun pickup. Take D out and begin telling her what to do. I lead. She follows or #next. The prerequisites are compliance which is the basis of game. Anything but her compliance and submission is rapey. Don't be rapey. shoot your shot. work volume.

Flakes ghosting lmr or female logic means that you next her. bad attitude means that you put her on ice. modern women need a pair of skates. act accordingly. icy as ****kkk ftw.

 

[manfrombelow]

She'll willingly, and happily, submit if she thinks you have higher SMV than her. Obviously.

Chick I hooked up with for a few months, back in Texas...the first night we had sex, she asked me permission to take off my belt before she did it. I said "No. You have to ask nicely." She says, "Can I please take off your belt, Hank?"

Submissive women are the only way to go. I can't stand an Alpha, dominant girl.

Cannot say this any better. Submissive women are fun to be around with. They are basically worth your time and anything that you "invest" in them, even your every tiny drop of semen. Masculine, Alpha, and Dominant girls are the worst of the worst, and can only attract low-quality men who are willing to be their doormats.

 

[manfrombelow]

Let me make this simple:

All women submit.

Who they submit to is based on that person's value, status, looks, social status,etc compared to her's.

If you are her best option and your frame requires that she submit, she will submit. If not, she wont.

There are liberal feminist women who wont submit to a man, but probably would submit to a butch type women lol.

Basically, if you're "worthy" enough (in her perception), she'll submit to you. If you're not, she won't. That's it.

 

[Glassguy]

Basically, if you're "worthy" enough (in her perception), she'll submit to you. If you're not, she won't. That's it.

No. I didn't say "worthy".
I said "best option". There is a big difference.

 

[EyeBRollin]

There is nothing you can do that will cause a woman to do what you want or not do what you don't want.

All you can do is be the best version of yourself you can be, and then be a leader. Tell her what you want. If she goes along then great, if she doesn't go find one that will.

This is the biggest problem I have with PUAs and relationship coaches... it's an illusion. They want to convince you that there are things you can do to influence women because if they can convince you that there are actions you can take that will get results you want... then they can sell you the "secret" that they "learned" and teach you. These people do, IMO, identify behavior that turns most women off, and behavior that turns most women on.

Be the best version of yourself... eliminate bad habits that get in your way of success. It doesn't fvcking matter what you do. If you are a car mechanic... be the best godd@mn car mechanic in the world... take pride in your work and always be learning about new cars... get as many certifications that you can be. Build a reputation of someone that is honest and reliable... If you are a bank loan officer... be the best one in your bank... bust your butt... go out a beat the bushes for loan opportunities and be active with your borrowers and work with them so that they are successful to maintain your currency rate. If you are fat and out of shape, discipline yourself to eat right and exercise.' If you drink too much or smoke pot... stop that sh1t.

Date as many women as you can.

Be the leader... then see which of the women you date will follow. If she won't follow your lead... well you are either being used or she sees you only as a friend.

That's it! It really is that simple. Go get a copy of Doc Love's "The System" and read that again and again until it sinks in.

This post should be pinned at the top. This is “game” in a few paragraphs.

 

[2Rocky]

I'll tell you one thing....Mutual respect trumps submission any day. There is a difference. Anyone who manages people for a living will tell you that. It applies to your personal relationships as well.

I recall a woman I was considering putting in the dating rotation. She started off bringing me a beer at an event so I hung out there with her and her friend. Pretty soon she askes me "Hey you want another beer?" I said "No I gotta go get on the road pretty soon..."

She said "Damn, I was gonna tell you to bring us a couple as well"

"Alright I'll catch you later..." And I turned on my heel and left.

Every time I've seen her since she has bought me a beer without me asking....But I've also returned the favor without asking...

It is about Leading from the Front. "I'm going here, you can follow"

What you see is respect, mistaken for submission.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I'll tell you one thing....Mutual respect trumps submission any day. There is a difference. Anyone who manages people for a living will tell you that. It applies to your personal relationships as well.

I recall a woman I was considering putting in the dating rotation. She started off bringing me a beer at an event so I hung out there with her and her friend. Pretty soon she askes me "Hey you want another beer?" I said "No I gotta go get on the road pretty soon..."

She said "Damn, I was gonna tell you to bring us a couple as well"

"Alright I'll catch you later..." And I turned on my heel and left.

Every time I've seen her since she has bought me a beer without me asking....But I've also returned the favor without asking...

It is about Leading from the Front. "I'm going here, you can follow"

What you see is respect, mistaken for submission.

Were you in the army/Enlisted? Why not have an in-between?

 

[2Rocky]

Were you in the army/Enlisted? Why not have an in-between?

No Army for me. But I've been surrounded by Military Parents, Uncles, Fraternity Bros. Most of whom were ROTC. High achievers who knew what the Stardards for Performance were, Eclipsed them, and were rewarded for it by being promoted to where they could Lead by Example.

 

[bat soup]

In reality, most guys aren't 6ft and taller, aren't making more than 100k, aren't living extraordinary lives or having hobbies, aren't charismatic , aren't in shape, yet they have wives, relationships, and etc. We act like being a beta/simp is akin to having the scarlet letter, but they are the ones with women and they don't know anything about the red pill or sites like these.

Women that like you are going to be cooperative. If a woman is acting like a biatch, she doesn't like you. If a woman is trying to lead you then most likely she's trying to take advantage of you in some way.

This includes when you meet a girl in a bar and she suggests going up to your room to drink wine. Her leading = scam.