How are normal guys able to get women to submit

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In reality, most guys aren't 6ft and taller, aren't making more than 100k, aren't living extraordinary lives or having hobbies, aren't charismatic , aren't in shape, yet they have wives, relationships, and etc. We act like being a beta/simp is akin to having the scarlet letter, but they are the ones with women and they don't know anything about the red pill or sites like these.
 

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if you want a relationship in 2021 sell her the Beta provider card.....

She will bail on you as soon as she sniffs your an Alpha mindset, but not a big earner.

Me sticking up for my self/walking away, protects my dignity but it has never served me any favours with women,

I got laid 10 times more, when I was a B*tch ass beg, but I got messed around 10 times more aswell.
 

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It helps if you meet her through a good social circle, you skip over a lot of the bullsh*t that comes with Clubs,cold approach and OLD.

SOCIAL CIRCLE is the best way to meet women, you have rhe social proof and it's not all about your looks and money.

Most guys on this website Just day daygame or use OLD so we have a very narrow view of women.
 

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I disagree with selling on the Beta Provider card. That does not work, especially more so now in 2021 when most guys are Soy boy betas. A woman will only be willing to truly submit to a man they deem worthy. They will never fully submit to a beta; they may appear to submit, but it is all an act. They will not have true, undaunted desire for a man they deem as a beta provider. It's not always about getting laid fellas. True submission and desire by a feminine woman will always be better than sleeping with women who view you as a beta and carry the masculine role in the relationship.
 
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It helps if you meet her through a good social circle, you skip over a lot of the bullsh*t that comes with Clubs,cold approach and OLD.

SOCIAL CIRCLE is the best way to meet women, you have rhe social proof and it's not all about your looks and money.

Most guys on this website Just day daygame or use OLD so we have a very narrow view of women.
Yep, I know a lot of guys that couldn't pull **** on OLD to save their lives, but they could get girls higher in looks than them through social circle. The cons are that the girl basically owns you because if the relationship ends then she will make you out as some monster and everyone will side with the girl and unless your friends with Dan Bilzerian and celebs, your social circle goes through desertification until it's all dried up by 30. My friend is short and obese but had a dominant personality, so the girls he got from his circle were always 7s or 8s. This worked well until he turned 26 when all of the girls had hit the wall, gotten married, moved away, and etc.
 

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What is the minimum attractiveness level here? I'd say that even a Normie-tier man today would have a hard time getting a butterball gal to "submit", although an upper-tier Normie might be able to pull it off. As for a decently attractive gal? Only a GigaChad could get her to submit; for a regular Chad-tier man, it's dicey.
 

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Use hypergamy to your advantage. Just like women, a lot of men have unrealistic standards. Sorry guys, no HB8+ is submitting to a man under 6’ with an income under 6 figures. But if you can improve yourself to be an 8+ SMV in your own right, you can get submission regularly from chicks below your SMV.
 

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I just say “submit to me NOW m’lady!” If she doesn’t I throw my fedora at her.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Pick a woman whose "level" is lower than yours, in terms of everything from looks to social status and financial strength etc...

And if you're talking about making a HB8+ submissive to you when you're just an average Joe? Dream on.
 

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give her a compliance test, tell her where to meet you and what time (dont ask).
i make my live in gf ask me to use the bathroom, she asks everytime now
 

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i make my live in gf ask me to use the bathroom, she asks everytime now
To me this sounds too much.

If I invited her to live in with me (which is a bad idea anyway), I'd not make her ask just to use the bathroom. I'd rather not invite her in at all.

And I'd never invite any woman to live in with me because I'd not want to exchange my power and freedom for that kind of lifestyle. I have other plates to spin - and I need the time & space or that.
 
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To me this sounds too much.

If I invited her to live in with me (which is a bad idea anyway), I'd not make her ask just to use the bathroom. I'd rather not invite her in at all.

And I'd never invite any woman to live in with me because I'd not want to hand my power and freedom to that kind of lifestyle. I have other plates to spin - and I need the time & space or that.
she likes being dominated she into( B.D.S.M ) and all kinda other kinky ishh

yeah i agree , stay away from live in situations if you can, im stuck in this one at the moment
 

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Men need to get off this social circle game. It’s ONE way to meet women, but it’s not the only way. I’ve been quite a few girls in the social circle and none of them were hot. I’ve met much hotter women going to store, going to the bank, going to the gym, going anywhere. Just stepping outside and keeping eyes open for anything hot.

All women care about is what you can DO for them. I went to Staples the other day to buy toner. The cashier was hot Persian 23 year old. I have a business and she told me to apply for a busienss card, can get a discount. One thing led to another and I told her she should come work for me. Do you know how fast she gave me her number? All she cared about is what I could do for her. Now it’s up to me to take advantage.

I love the freshness of new women and everyday I see hotter younger women than any girl in my social circle. Again its one way to meet women, but don’t deny yourself others because you are expected to be set up.
 

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I disagree with selling on the Beta Provider card. That does not work, especially more so now in 2021 when most guys are Soy boy betas. A woman will only be willing to truly submit to a man they deem worthy.
I live in a welfare state, women dont submit round here fellas.

well they do, to the state, then they move a soyboy in who earns 400 quid a week
 

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Men need to get off this social circle game. It’s ONE way to meet women, but it’s not the only way. I’ve been quite a few girls in the social circle and none of them were hot. I’ve met much hotter women going to store, going to the bank, going to the gym, going anywhere. Just stepping outside and keeping eyes open for anything hot.

100% right here, same with OLD or Daygame. Neither should be your only avenue of meeting women. To get a constant rotation of new plates you gotta do everything
 

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In reality, most guys aren't 6ft and taller, aren't making more than 100k, aren't living extraordinary lives or having hobbies, aren't charismatic , aren't in shape, yet they have wives, relationships, and etc. We act like being a beta/simp is akin to having the scarlet letter, but they are the ones with women and they don't know anything about the red pill or sites like these.
Normal guys don't, they meet and marry normal women. If you want an extraordinary woman you have to be an extraordinary man.
 

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