Why is it ok to insult somebody as an Incel?

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It's already happening. Men are nixing marriage at an unprecedented rate.

Incels should listen to the criticism, hit the gym, grow some balls, tell women to stfu and break the cycle. Men that whine about their inceldom and get hurt feelings are just being b!tches.

Women are right to criticize them, men have become soft and pussified. Just like men are right to criticize simps for spending thousands on thots

I do have compassion for incels. But complaining is not very manly.
i don’t think that these women attack incels because they want them to change. Most of these women are feminists and they don’t care about them. They are just upset because incels are not satisfied belonging to the majority of men who are sexualy unsuccessfull.

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''Perhaps some men are not genetically or biologically constituted to go to the gym and control their eating habits to achieve the Adonis body of the Alpha Male. Perhaps some men like being soft, bookish intellectuals who liken themselves feminist allies.

And perhaps there’s nothing wrong with this.

And then there’s the Incels (involuntary celibates) i.e. the virgin men who hate being Betas and genuinely want to be “more alpha” but are lost on how to go about changing their life. This is why Peterson’s Youtube videos are so immensely popular: they are aimed precisely at this generation, a generation of gamers and nerds, of x-box live players who “own” strangers across the world and are more social with their World of Warcraft guilds than any real-life persons in their local community, but who lack the gumption and real-life social skills to be successful in the dating market.''


That's how these women think. They don't want incels to change. They want them to accept their misery and don't complain.
 

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It's gonna get tona point where 80% of men are incels, It's already causing a lot of social problems. I'm expecting some sort of incel rebellion ro happen very soon.
Hmmm....I think it depends on the definition of the word 'incel'

When I first heard the term like 5 years ago or whatever, it definitely meant a virgin. An adult who had just no chance of getting laid due to a mixture of being ugly and also maybe autism or whatever. No social skills and not good looking enough for 'game' to help, anyway. But certainly a virgin (discounting hookers)

More recently, the definition of the word seems to have changed into one where 'incel' is basically someone who isn't enjoying a great sex life with various hot girls lol. That basically means that nearly all of the guys I know are incels (e.g - they don't get laid much, and they certainly can't just bang most hot girls they want). So 'incel' = 'non chad' lol. So yeah, basically everyone

But this (definition changing) could be a way for legit incels to cope and try to group everyone in with them. I must have banged 40+ girls from cold approach, and i'm pretty sure i'm an 'incel' according to some peoples definitions lol (very low odds of banging the hot girls I go after. Decently long spells without sex etc)

But personally, i'lll always think of an incel as a virgin, basically. And even with that definition, I tihnk I have a handful of friends who fit my definition of incel tbh lol (i've got an extremely varied group of friends in different 'groups')
 
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It's okay to insult incels because they are nearly always male. That's why.
 

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‘Cels brought to light some uncomfortable topics.

1. For many years, we’re all probably sensed that a certain percentage of straight men have little to no chance with women. But it wasn’t something that was ever talked about. Years ago, people would just gossip that the guy was gay and hadn’t come out yet. And that was the end of the story.

2. Likewise, we’ve also known (intuitively) for many years that looks matter or at the very least were an advantage if you had them. But until recent years, nobody wanted to discuss just HOW MUCH looks matter. (I could explain why, but will avoid six more paragraphs lol.)
 
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Go over to ForeverAlone on reddit, they all hang out there.

An Incel is not a nerd or a MGTOW or a PUA. An incel is someone who was raised by a gold star parent. They grew up in a culture which delivers them everything. They sit around in their houses while their parents cater to their every whim, then when they eventually do venture out into society, they find out that women aren't impressed by their Call of Duty skills. Unlike nerds who do something about that and adapt (PUA), they instead turn inwards, blame society, usually become racist against the race they see out with 'their' women. Then they proceed to stew in their hate while writing on internet forums with other losers. They slowly confirm that they can't get girls and that they will forever be alone until they come to a point where they go nuts and kill people.

The Japanese have a similar culture called the Hikkomori.


They are the exact same types of people except they turn inwards and typically kill themselves instead of killing others, culture difference. They have them in China too and its going to rise exponentially because of the 30 million extra males. In China the incels will go out and kill children.


This is a world-wide problem and it happens as a result of politics and an imbalance between males and females. Then when women are taught to hate men, as is happening in the West, Korea and anywhere else feminism is being peddled you get this type of behaviour. Beware, the world is not a safe place.
 

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It's gonna get tona point where 80% of men are incels, It's already causing a lot of social problems. I'm expecting some sort of incel rebellion ro happen very soon.
I think you overestimate the percentage of men who are incel by a large margin. Most men are in some sort of multiyear relationship or marriage. The guys in longer term relationships, married or not married, are not getting laid all that much. I define these longer term relationships as 5+ years. Married men don't get laid all that much by their 3rd year of marriage, which is typically the 5 year mark of the relationship. However, some longer term married man getting his wife to suck him off and open her vagina to him twice a month without a lot of passion would be a good deal for a man who is an incel.

The incel population is growing due to male surpluses globally. The United States, a nation with a lesser male surplus problem than China/India, has seen some incel initiated crime.

It's already happening. Men are nixing marriage at an unprecedented rate.

Incels should listen to the criticism, hit the gym, grow some balls, tell women to stfu and break the cycle. Men that whine about their inceldom and get hurt feelings are just being b!tches.

Women are right to criticize them, men have become soft and pussified. Just like men are right to criticize simps for spending thousands on thots
A lot of the men nixing marriage are men that are there by default. These are the men undesirable to most of the female population, including the overweight female population.

There are men who find themselves with 2 options in life: An extended relationship with a subpar, overweight woman in which he'll have to work hard to retain her from a multitude of orbiters or inceldom.

Men as a whole are having to work harder to get/retain women of lower quality than 20, 30, or 40 years ago.

An Incel is not a nerd or a MGTOW or a PUA.

The Japanese have a similar culture called the Hikkomori.


They are the exact same types of people except they turn inwards and typically kill themselves instead of killing others, culture difference. They have them in China too and its going to rise exponentially because of the 30 million extra males. In China the incels will go out and kill children.


This is a world-wide problem and it happens as a result of politics and an imbalance between males and females. Then when women are taught to hate men, as is happening in the West, Korea and anywhere else feminism is being peddled you get this type of behaviour. Beware, the world is not a safe place.
Incel and MGTOW have a lot of overlap. All incels are MGTOWs but not all MGTOWs are incels. The incel population often ruins the perception of the MGTOW movement as a whole. There's a perception out there that MGTOWs are guys who can't get laid. I do not identify with MGTOW or even PUA though I am closer to a PUA than a MGTOW. Many of the grievances that MGTOWs have are legitimate.

The Hikikomori and herbivore Japanese men have been a problem since Japan suffered an economic collapse after the 1989 Nikkei crash. Japan never recovered from 1989. The argument can be made that the United States never recovered from 2008.

Starting in the 1990s in Japan, there were no jobs for young men due to economic recession. Young men could not attract girlfriends for getting vagina in Japan, similar to the post 9/11 and post 2008 problems for young men in the United States. You now have 30 years of Japanese men who can't get laid and 15-20 years of coddled Millennial men in the United States who can't get laid. Both are overdependent upon video games and internet porn. The typical white, US Instagram thot is barely aware that most of these men exist in the United States. Since the 2000s, a record number of 18-34 year old men in the United States have lived at home with their parents due to not being able to get decent jobs after 9/11 and 2008 economic downturns and tepid recoveries. COVID-19 will continue this problem.

China and India have the worst oversupply of male problems globally.

In the United States, there's a male surplus and fewer men are acceptable to the typical female. Due to the male surplus, women's expectations have been raised. While women can get sex easily in the United States, they can't get committment. The highly attractive men that even average to subpar women expect in the United States won't commit to them, but they will have sex with them for a while from swipe apps. Chateau Heartiste many years ago coined a phrase "insol" for women. Insol is involuntary solitude. There are more and more insol women out there. Insol women don't commit crimes. Insol women are getting sex regularly and even have a good social circle. They just can't get commitment. Being an insol woman is not as bad as being an incel man because an insol woman is getting her base sexual needs met.

It's okay to insult incels because they are nearly always male. That's why.
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yeah wasn't trying to insult you mate!
from experience the guys who people are referring as incell , still get some decent results as most women marry this kind of guys

what happens after they get married is a totally different story

but if you think about it , it makes sense to be like that , as most guys compete for the provider role . Have a look on what guys usually talk about : bank accounts , cars , investment, pension , etc

it is a matter of how you view women . Even though i am ok financially I kinda dress like a stilish bum ( white t shirt with scooped neck , some jeans ripped or not and Chelsea boots ) . Women have no idea if I have money or not , so they are not vetting me for the provider role , where the competition is super steep

the Rule is that it will always be someone more successful than you , so it makes no sense to play this card when talking with women , as for the high caliber women the bar is quite high as only one guy can be her bf
 

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You are incel because only Chads are successful in dating apps. Dating apps are hopeless for you, but people like @BackInTheGame78 get more girls then they have time from the same apps you use. So you cant use dating apps as an excuse.
He says he gets girls but have we ever seen proof? I can post pics of me with girls I’ve dated but I’m still no Chad and I get shot down and screwed over a lot. Not an incel either but I can understand where most are coming from. Most don’t even know where to begin to start to improve, they’re so down on themselves and confidence is non existent. They need someone to take them under their wing and help them along. I’ve actually hooked up guys that thought they didn’t have a shot with a girl, but they also weren’t shooting way above their league either. They just didn’t know how to make a move and needed someone to explain what to do.
 

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I think you overestimate the percentage of men who are incel by a large margin. Most men are in some sort of multiyear relationship or marriage. The guys in longer term relationships, married or not married, are not getting laid all that much. I define these longer term relationships as 5+ years. Married men don't get laid all that much by their 3rd year of marriage, which is typically the 5 year mark of the relationship. However, some longer term married man getting his wife to suck him off and open her vagina to him twice a month without a lot of passion would be a good deal for a man who is an incel.

The incel population is growing due to male surpluses globally. The United States, a nation with a lesser male surplus problem than China/India, has seen some incel initiated crime.



A lot of the men nixing marriage are men that are there by default. These are the men undesirable to most of the female population, including the overweight female population.

There are men who find themselves with 2 options in life: An extended relationship with a subpar, overweight woman in which he'll have to work hard to retain her from a multitude of orbiters or inceldom.

Men as a whole are having to work harder to get/retain women of lower quality than 20, 30, or 40 years ago.



Incel and MGTOW have a lot of overlap. All incels are MGTOWs but not all MGTOWs are incels. The incel population often ruins the perception of the MGTOW movement as a whole. There's a perception out there that MGTOWs are guys who can't get laid. I do not identify with MGTOW or even PUA though I am closer to a PUA than a MGTOW. Many of the grievances that MGTOWs have are legitimate.

The Hikikomori and herbivore Japanese men have been a problem since Japan suffered an economic collapse after the 1989 Nikkei crash. Japan never recovered from 1989. The argument can be made that the United States never recovered from 2008.

Starting in the 1990s in Japan, there were no jobs for young men due to economic recession. Young men could not attract girlfriends for getting vagina in Japan, similar to the post 9/11 and post 2008 problems for young men in the United States. You now have 30 years of Japanese men who can't get laid and 15-20 years of coddled Millennial men in the United States who can't get laid. Both are overdependent upon video games and internet porn. The typical white, US Instagram thot is barely aware that most of these men exist in the United States. Since the 2000s, a record number of 18-34 year old men in the United States have lived at home with their parents due to not being able to get decent jobs after 9/11 and 2008 economic downturns and tepid recoveries. COVID-19 will continue this problem.

China and India have the worst oversupply of male problems globally.

In the United States, there's a male surplus and fewer men are acceptable to the typical female. Due to the male surplus, women's expectations have been raised. While women can get sex easily in the United States, they can't get committment. The highly attractive men that even average to subpar women expect in the United States won't commit to them, but they will have sex with them for a while from swipe apps. Chateau Heartiste many years ago coined a phrase "insol" for women. Insol is involuntary solitude. There are more and more insol women out there. Insol women don't commit crimes. Insol women are getting sex regularly and even have a good social circle. They just can't get commitment. Being an insol woman is not as bad as being an incel man because an insol woman is getting her base sexual needs met.



Yes, it is always acceptable to shiit on a man.
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This problem is only going to get worse until we have sex bots
Hell, I saw somewhere on the internet about a VR sex game being made lol. Comes with a toy that matches your rhythm with the VR or something like that.
 

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I think you overestimate the percentage of men who are incel by a large margin. Most men are in some sort of multiyear relationship or marriage. The guys in longer term relationships, married or not married, are not getting laid all that much. I define these longer term relationships as 5+ years. Married men don't get laid all that much by their 3rd year of marriage, which is typically the 5 year mark of the relationship. However, some longer term married man getting his wife to suck him off and open her vagina to him twice a month without a lot of passion would be a good deal for a man who is an incel.

The incel population is growing due to male surpluses globally. The United States, a nation with a lesser male surplus problem than China/India, has seen some incel initiated crime.



A lot of the men nixing marriage are men that are there by default. These are the men undesirable to most of the female population, including the overweight female population.

There are men who find themselves with 2 options in life: An extended relationship with a subpar, overweight woman in which he'll have to work hard to retain her from a multitude of orbiters or inceldom.

Men as a whole are having to work harder to get/retain women of lower quality than 20, 30, or 40 years ago.



Incel and MGTOW have a lot of overlap. All incels are MGTOWs but not all MGTOWs are incels. The incel population often ruins the perception of the MGTOW movement as a whole. There's a perception out there that MGTOWs are guys who can't get laid. I do not identify with MGTOW or even PUA though I am closer to a PUA than a MGTOW. Many of the grievances that MGTOWs have are legitimate.

The Hikikomori and herbivore Japanese men have been a problem since Japan suffered an economic collapse after the 1989 Nikkei crash. Japan never recovered from 1989. The argument can be made that the United States never recovered from 2008.

Starting in the 1990s in Japan, there were no jobs for young men due to economic recession. Young men could not attract girlfriends for getting vagina in Japan, similar to the post 9/11 and post 2008 problems for young men in the United States. You now have 30 years of Japanese men who can't get laid and 15-20 years of coddled Millennial men in the United States who can't get laid. Both are overdependent upon video games and internet porn. The typical white, US Instagram thot is barely aware that most of these men exist in the United States. Since the 2000s, a record number of 18-34 year old men in the United States have lived at home with their parents due to not being able to get decent jobs after 9/11 and 2008 economic downturns and tepid recoveries. COVID-19 will continue this problem.

China and India have the worst oversupply of male problems globally.

In the United States, there's a male surplus and fewer men are acceptable to the typical female. Due to the male surplus, women's expectations have been raised. While women can get sex easily in the United States, they can't get committment. The highly attractive men that even average to subpar women expect in the United States won't commit to them, but they will have sex with them for a while from swipe apps. Chateau Heartiste many years ago coined a phrase "insol" for women. Insol is involuntary solitude. There are more and more insol women out there. Insol women don't commit crimes. Insol women are getting sex regularly and even have a good social circle. They just can't get commitment. Being an insol woman is not as bad as being an incel man because an insol woman is getting her base sexual needs met.



Yes, it is always acceptable to shiit on a man.
I agree with your assessment of the current martial sex situation.

Keep in mind in the year 2000 the average married man fvcked 2x a week. Not 1x a month like today. I used to think 2x a week was pathetic. My how have things changed.
 

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I think you overestimate the percentage of men who are incel by a large margin. Most men are in some sort of multiyear relationship or marriage. The guys in longer term relationships, married or not married, are not getting laid all that much. I define these longer term relationships as 5+ years. Married men don't get laid all that much by their 3rd year of marriage, which is typically the 5 year mark of the relationship. However, some longer term married man getting his wife to suck him off and open her vagina to him twice a month without a lot of passion would be a good deal for a man who is an incel.

The incel population is growing due to male surpluses globally. The United States, a nation with a lesser male surplus problem than China/India, has seen some incel initiated crime.



A lot of the men nixing marriage are men that are there by default. These are the men undesirable to most of the female population, including the overweight female population.

There are men who find themselves with 2 options in life: An extended relationship with a subpar, overweight woman in which he'll have to work hard to retain her from a multitude of orbiters or inceldom.

Men as a whole are having to work harder to get/retain women of lower quality than 20, 30, or 40 years ago.



Incel and MGTOW have a lot of overlap. All incels are MGTOWs but not all MGTOWs are incels. The incel population often ruins the perception of the MGTOW movement as a whole. There's a perception out there that MGTOWs are guys who can't get laid. I do not identify with MGTOW or even PUA though I am closer to a PUA than a MGTOW. Many of the grievances that MGTOWs have are legitimate.

The Hikikomori and herbivore Japanese men have been a problem since Japan suffered an economic collapse after the 1989 Nikkei crash. Japan never recovered from 1989. The argument can be made that the United States never recovered from 2008.

Starting in the 1990s in Japan, there were no jobs for young men due to economic recession. Young men could not attract girlfriends for getting vagina in Japan, similar to the post 9/11 and post 2008 problems for young men in the United States. You now have 30 years of Japanese men who can't get laid and 15-20 years of coddled Millennial men in the United States who can't get laid. Both are overdependent upon video games and internet porn. The typical white, US Instagram thot is barely aware that most of these men exist in the United States. Since the 2000s, a record number of 18-34 year old men in the United States have lived at home with their parents due to not being able to get decent jobs after 9/11 and 2008 economic downturns and tepid recoveries. COVID-19 will continue this problem.

China and India have the worst oversupply of male problems globally.

In the United States, there's a male surplus and fewer men are acceptable to the typical female. Due to the male surplus, women's expectations have been raised. While women can get sex easily in the United States, they can't get committment. The highly attractive men that even average to subpar women expect in the United States won't commit to them, but they will have sex with them for a while from swipe apps. Chateau Heartiste many years ago coined a phrase "insol" for women. Insol is involuntary solitude. There are more and more insol women out there. Insol women don't commit crimes. Insol women are getting sex regularly and even have a good social circle. They just can't get commitment. Being an insol woman is not as bad as being an incel man because an insol woman is getting her base sexual needs met.



Yes, it is always acceptable to shiit on a man.
This is a really good post and much of what you discussed is just a part of the bigger picture of this "incel" stuff. In my opinion, the fact that there are so many incel men shows that there are many issues going on with our society as a whole and that this is something that has been deteriorating over the past couple decades. This is something I've touched upon in the past, but I feel the millennial generation is unique due to our boomer parents who enjoyed a period of success that was virtually unheard of and unique in it's own way, we've discussed this on here before. I feel that many millennials grew up with an excess that no other generations had enjoyed and when you combine this with the tech boom we had going into the first decade of this century it created many social issues.

Growing up I remember video gaming was the norm for other boys my age, where as in the early 90s you'd have to get out of the house and go to the arcade to play. I feel you take some boys who are naturally more introverted and the next thing you know they use video games as a means to keep themselves occupied and they go through high school having never even talked to a girl, gone to prom, etc. I feel that if young men like this don't develop these skills in high school they get a second chance in college, if they even go, but after that it becomes increasingly difficult to overcome these issues. I've overheard so many conversations with even ugly women who'd say they would never date a virgin or inexperienced man. Society as a whole has placed, in my opinion, a lot more demands on men but coddled women like princesses, which I'll get into below.

I feel that social media is ultimately what is to blame for the unhealthy dynamic that women have with themselves. Go on any woman's social media and you'll see constant ego boosting, mostly from her female friends. It's now become acceptable, at least in white America, for women to get tons of tattoos, become fat, a *****, drug user, etc. You now have a bunch of trashy and low quality women but yet due to the current social culture they feel entitled to high quality men. I've heard of stories of overweight women refusing to date men for being overweight. As a 6'4", broad shouldered white man who lifts regularly I've had a couple women point out a fat chick and say to me that is my league and what I should be dating. Even a man like me only gets matched with fat chicks on tinder, last time I checked most men aren't well over 6' nor are they fit/muscular.

I could go on and on but I'm honestly very concerned for society as a whole. I know that I rant a lot on this forum about some of the issues I've faced in the past but I can only imagine what it's like for more average men out there. I feel the biggest issue men face is that they need some sort of goals or adventures to place upon themselves and that they need to seek validation from their successes, whatever they may be. I feel that society has become hyper judgmental of men and that it is essentially saying that many men are simply not needed, thus where this incel sub culture originates from.
 

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I agree with your assessment of the current martial sex situation.

Keep in mind in the year 2000 the average married man fvcked 2x a week. Not 1x a month like today. I used to think 2x a week was pathetic. My how have things changed.
If I had a live in gf that I was attracted to I'd be laying pipe every day.
 

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It's not a woman's fault they're not attracted to whiny, self entitled bitches. The Incel movement is just an excuse to blame others for their failures and inadequacies.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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