How to have kids without opening up to the potential of a woman destroying your life?

[firstbornunicorn]

There's little else that I want more than to start a family. But the current system makes it impossible for me to willingly put myself in a position where a woman can wield the power of the government over me. What is a way to have kids with a woman and remain committed but not give her this power?

 

[TheProspect]

I created a thread about a year ago related to your topic:

I want to be a father one day...

... but my biggest concern in life is having a kid with the wrong woman. How do I handle this desire given my concern? I'm 26 years old, and ever since my nephew was born ten years ago and spent the first 2 years of life in the same house as me, I've wanted to raise a kid of my own one day...

www.sosuave.net

I recommend checking it out and seeing if any of the discussion within it offer you any insight.

 

[EyeBRollin]

There's little else that I want more than to start a family. But the current system makes it impossible for me to willingly put myself in a position where a woman can wield the power of the government over me. What is a way to have kids with a woman and remain committed but not give her this power?

Short Answer: marry a woman of a lower SMV than your own, whom possess sufficient nurturing qualities and mentions being a wife and mother as more important than her career.

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Unicorn,
So you want to have kids without the probability of a Woman Fvuckin up your life?My response is similar to the responses I had to a similar post,asking how to nail Jello to the ceiling?

 

[firstbornunicorn]

Dear Unicorn,
So you want to have kids without the probability of a Woman Fvuckin up your life?My response is similar to the responses I had to a similar post,asking how to nail Jello to the ceiling?

So if I freeze the woman I can have kids with her safely?

 

[firstbornunicorn]

Short Answer: marry a woman of a lower SMV than your own, whom possess sufficient nurturing qualities and mentions being a wife and mother as more important than her career.

What do you think about marrying someone who is financially better off than me?

Another thing is I'm totally aware of how kids change things. I don't expect to be "in love" with her forever, and totally expect the feelings to change after having a kid. The kid to me would also come first. She's just a womb to fulfill my selfish desire of reproducing.

Not looking for a happily ever after. Just pairing up with someone who also wants an 18 year project, and, after that, we can part ways if we feel so inclined.

My idea is to live seriously below my means, and have money/assets in other countries that she doesn't even know about. No joint bank accounts, or, if we do, I just fake making way less money than I actually do.

Another serious consideration was having kids with a terminally ill woman and then having a girlfriend help out with that child. No child support because the actual mother is dead, girlfriends would come and go. It's dark, but my mind wanders.

 

[EyeBRollin]

What do you think about marrying someone who is financially better off than me?

You’ll be her b tch. She will never truly respect you.

Another thing is I'm totally aware of how kids change things. I don't expect to be "in love" with her forever, and totally expect the feelings to change after having a kid. The kid to me would also come first. She's just a womb to fulfill my selfish desire of reproducing.

Not looking for a happily ever after. Just pairing up with someone who also wants an 18 year project, and, after that, we can part ways if we feel so inclined.

My idea is to live seriously below my means, and have money/assets in other countries that she doesn't even know about. No joint bank accounts, or, if we do, I just fake making way less money than I actually do.

Another serious consideration was having kids with a terminally ill woman and then having a girlfriend help out with that child. No child support because the actual mother is dead, girlfriends would come and go. It's dark, but my mind wanders.

Talk this over with a therapist. No offense guy but this whole idea sounds sick. Therapy is good they can talk you through what you actually want and the root of why you think these are good ideas.

 

[firstbornunicorn]

Talk this over with a therapist. No offense guy but this whole idea sounds sick. Therapy is good they can talk you through what you actually want and the root of why you think these are good ideas.

Never met a therapist equipped with the tools to even begin scratching the surface of my psyche. My logic is undeniable though, can't ignore that.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Never met a therapist equipped with the tools to even begin scratching the surface of my psyche. My logic is undeniable though, can't ignore that.

Look harder. What you want suggests a professional opinion would be helpful.

 

[firstbornunicorn]

Look harder. What you want suggests a professional opinion would be helpful.

I didn't say I wanted it. Maybe you should consult an English reading comprehension specialist?

 

[christie]

What do you think about marrying someone who is financially better off than me?

Another thing is I'm totally aware of how kids change things. I don't expect to be "in love" with her forever, and totally expect the feelings to change after having a kid. The kid to me would also come first. She's just a womb to fulfill my selfish desire of reproducing.

Not looking for a happily ever after. Just pairing up with someone who also wants an 18 year project, and, after that, we can part ways if we feel so inclined.

My idea is to live seriously below my means, and have money/assets in other countries that she doesn't even know about. No joint bank accounts, or, if we do, I just fake making way less money than I actually do.

Another serious consideration was having kids with a terminally ill woman and then having a girlfriend help out with that child. No child support because the actual mother is dead, girlfriends would come and go. It's dark, but my mind wanders.

Volunteer taking cancer patients to their appointments. They have sooooo many appointments(my Dad had cancer)

Also, I'll never forget the palpable fear I felt coming off the woman sitting beside me at the blood lab where I had to do a routine test.

I think she was quite ill, like with cancer or something, because she had no hair and was a bad pallor of skin with sunken bags under her eyes. She was almost vibrating with fear. I regret not taking her hand or hugging her or something and I remember thinking it must be brutal that she had to come to the lab alone. I just said Hi and smiled.....she didn't feel like talking.

Some terminally ill ladies will freeze their eggs before heavyduty treatments. Still need a surrogate womb then.

 

[RickTheToad]

Dear Unicorn,
So you want to have kids without the probability of a Woman Fvuckin up your life?My response is similar to the responses I had to a similar post,asking how to nail Jello to the ceiling?

Easy.

 

[firstbornunicorn]

Easy.

He said ceiling though.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

What do you think about marrying someone who is financially better off than me?

You’ll be her b tch. She will never truly respect you.

I did that..... and she tried to make me her ***** and i had to fight her. But today every woman will try to make you her ***** once she got the ring and the kid, because the legal system and society supports this. The difference is, a woman with no money will divorce-rape you while the higher income woman might have to pay you out of the marriage. (depending on the local laws)

That said, rule no. 1: DO NOT MARRY! You can have kids without marriage!

She will still respect you if you:

*set up and maintain frame at ALL cost, never give in from the start of the LTR, open your frame only for the kid, not for her
*stay financially independent, so you can walk away at any point, dont get into depts(mortgage etc.) together with her
*dont be afraid to walk away and make her know it
*you need a woman that thinks you are hot, not a guy she is settling for
*you need to stay hot for her (in shape, alpha, independent), she needs to think/know she cant do better then you
*you need a woman that will get back to work after having kid/s , so you dont end up being the "provider"/cashcow
*you might have to settle for a woman that is a bit lower SMV then you are and she needs to know you have (female) options, in case.....

Having kids in the western world is a high-risk game. You have to be mentaly prepared to walk away and see your kids only once every second week. This mindset helps a lot in not becoming the *****.

 

[RickTheToad]

He said ceiling though.

Fair enough.

 

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

i agree with @ThisIsSparta and @EyeBRollin

if its possible pretty much you're looking at lower smv being the main thing
frame has to be rock solid , and you should in well shape dressing well so that women are checking you out when you're with her, that will keep her in line.

 

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

be aware that even if she is of lower smv she will stray if you fall off

 

[firstbornunicorn]

The thing is, not to brag, but, most women are below my SMV but think they are higher because thirsty betas. It either has to be a huge difference, or it's not enough.

 

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

The thing is, not to brag, but, most women are below my SMV but think they are higher because thirsty betas. It either has to be a huge difference, or it's not enough.

^^^^ THIS.

you might as well move to a country where nobody looks like you or sounds like you and then CONSIDER (DEEPLY) the next move

 

[ThisIsSparta]

The thing is, not to brag, but, most women are below my SMV but think they are higher because thirsty betas. It either has to be a huge difference, or it's not enough.

True to the point that women in general have a megalomaniac view of their own SMV in the western world. BUT, the problem she will face is, there are no 7,8,9 and 10 men out there looking for a single mom in their 30s/40s for an LTR. If she makes good money, she is most likely smart enough to realize that as long as you stay the high-value-guy for her.

Of course there is allways the risk involved that she goes nuts and becomes a Tinder-biatch that gets serial-"pumped and dumped" and is fine with that too.

There is no guarantee that a woman stays for life or at least until the kids are grown up.

Moving to a different culture brings its own difficutlies that might not be desireable as well.