Plate situation [experts only]

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Till this morning I had 6-7 plates spinning.

2 I had slept with.
5 I haven't.

The ones I had slept with are still down to sleep with me and show enthusiasm for it.

The 5 who hadn't showed the following signs:

1 said she's on her periods today so can't meet.
1 said she has plans tomorrow (post birthday party)
1 said she will let me know.
I'm so drunk rn Idk what the rest 2 said.

I quickly nexted these 5 at the first sign of apparent disinterest.

My question to you guys is, what signs are like immediate hard nexts or apparent disinterest?

When do you guys wait and watch and when do you completely block and go awol?
 

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I'd say good call because those excuses that they gave you are the most bullsh1t ones.

In 99% of the time when a girl says she have plans tomorow she's lying, same with I'm gonna let you know.

When a girl is truly into you she will make it easy for you when you two will meet,even if it's in the middle of the fvcking night, there will be no excuses.

Life's too short to spend it on girls who think you're second best or are second guessing themselves about it. Far too many girls who won't waste your time.
 

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It's possible all of them were excuses or it is possible all of the were legit. Most likely it is somewhere in between.

Guys are so quick to next women that I see why many on this board struggle with anything more than a 3 month relationship. I am not saying you should or shouldn't next them. I don't know how the interactions went.

All I am saying is patience can work in your favor a lot of time and guys would do well to learn some of it at times.

Also in my mind a plate is someone who you fvck regularly. Before that they are just random chicks you are dating or seeing and nothing more.
 

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you give women 2 chances to meet up, and 2 only.

these signs of disinterest would be their first chance gone, however i would remain cool & calm.

No woman is single in 2021 .....not one, they are also taught men are disposable.

you must get them in your domain to show you are not disposable
 

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It's possible all of them were excuses or it is possible all of the were legit. Most likely it is somewhere in between.

Guys are so quick to next women that I see why many on this board struggle with anything more than a 3 month relationship. I am not saying you should or shouldn't next them. I don't know how the interactions went.

All I am saying is patience can work in your favor a lot of time and guys would do well to learn some of it at times.

Also in my mind a plate is someone who you fvck regularly. Before that they are just random chicks you are dating or seeing and nothing more.
This post is gold because it exactly shows the dilemma I'm in.

When is the point of completely nexting and soft nexting based on some set of algorithm?

I usually base this on a counter offer but there have been many instances where I had to push for a counter and managed to sleep w a girl.
 

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Yeah this is always a gut punch bro but the longer this covid ish drags on, the more women will be dating towards convenience of resource and not so much convenience of sex.

As per your question, I view sex as performing a play, it has actors, stage, set, supporting cast, the works... The more you invoke upon the elements of the play, the more interest you will create from her. The play is ultimately the story she will tell her friends, obviously spun in her favor.

I think sometimes us men forget just how much women love a good story.
 
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Guys are so quick to next women that I see why many on this board struggle with anything more than a 3 month relationship.
exactly. It takes time and effort to get plates so just because they are busy or don't want to come over that particular night for whatever reason i don't think id next them for that. Just shuffle them to the back of the rotation, let them miss you a bit and focus on the one or two that did want to get together. If they keep putting you off with flimsy excuses then kick em to the curb.
I don't know how you have the time or energy to spin that many women.
 

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Guys are so quick to next women that I see why many on this board struggle with anything more than a 3 month relationship. I
Guys on this site shoot themselves in the foot 95% of the time.

What if a girl text you to hangout and:

-You already committed to your best guy friend to go to a baseball, football, basketball etc. game?
-You're sick with a fever?
-Just worked a 60 hour week because you have 2 jobs?
-Are in school and have a huge exam the following day?

All the above are similar to what OP's plates said but in girl-speak.

And if you told the woman one of these reasons, all legit for delaying, she called B.S. and NEXT YOU? The guy would hop on SS and rant and b*tch about how cold and conniving all women are.

Women have lives outside of you and dating and you should too.
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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What if a girl text you to hangout and:

-You already committed to your best guy friend to go to a baseball, football, basketball etc. game?
-You're sick with a fever?
-Just worked a 60 hour week because you have 2 jobs?
-Are in school and have a huge exam the following day?

All the above are similar to what OP's plates said but in girl-speak.
A chick could have simply grown a massive zit in the last 24 hours and got too embarrassed to meet up because of the volcano on her forehead ready to explode.

I know back when I was a teenager, or in my early 20's, I'd probably cancel for that reason myself lol.

Women have lives outside of you and dating and you should too.
This is an important point. Many men take flakes & excuses personally and then hard next out of spite.
 

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Till this morning I had 6-7 plates spinning.

2 I had slept with.
5 I haven't.

The ones I had slept with are still down to sleep with me and show enthusiasm for it.

The 5 who hadn't showed the following signs:

1 said she's on her periods today so can't meet.
1 said she has plans tomorrow (post birthday party)
1 said she will let me know.
I'm so drunk rn Idk what the rest 2 said.

I quickly nexted these 5 at the first sign of apparent disinterest.

My question to you guys is, what signs are like immediate hard nexts or apparent disinterest?

When do you guys wait and watch and when do you completely block and go awol?
Disrespect and no eagerness to spend time with you at little or no cost to you.
 

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I'm not convinced that's it's possible for most men to effectively plate more than 3 women at a time.

I've been rejected, flaked, and cancelled on so many times that it doesn't even phase me. I go through women like water. "Interest level" (both on my part and theirs) is usually extremely fleeting, and almost always, I'll simply stop communicating with the ones who, for whatever reason, I lose interest, and/or the ones who make excuses for not meeting.
I second this. There was a point in time a few years ago I had 6 or 7 women I was banging at least semi regularly and it got physically exhausting after about a month and a half and I had to really cut it down to 3 or 4. It actually helped that 1 dropped off by themselves and I just started seeing 2 less and less.
 

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I'm not an expert, but my take.

You're spinning 2 plates, tops, if sex with them has occurred more than twice. The other 5 are prospects who seem to have middling or low interest. Definitely not plates.

A woman having plans that don't involve you, essentially a stranger who has little significance to her other than being another horny dude hitting her up and trying to bang her, isn't a rejection. Yes, it's disinterest. You haven't earned her interest or priority in her life yet.

Be confident in your attractiveness to women. That means being a little persistent with women you've never slept with. If she can't make a date, no worries. You'll see if she's free another day. And if she's not, and there's a trend of her declining invitations without apology or a counter-offer, then you move on.

Seeing more than 1 woman at once is a drain on time, money, energy and mental focus. Maintaining a rotation of multiple women is only realistically feasible for extremely high-status celebrity-level men who don't have to pursue women. If you're out on your grind and purpose, building a harem should not be a focus.
 

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Till this morning I had 6-7 plates spinning.

2 I had slept with.
5 I haven't.

The ones I had slept with are still down to sleep with me and show enthusiasm for it.

The 5 who hadn't showed the following signs:

1 said she's on her periods today so can't meet.
1 said she has plans tomorrow (post birthday party)
1 said she will let me know.
I'm so drunk rn Idk what the rest 2 said.

I quickly nexted these 5 at the first sign of apparent disinterest.

My question to you guys is, what signs are like immediate hard nexts or apparent disinterest?

When do you guys wait and watch and when do you completely block and go awol?
I'm really not much on texting. And to be honest I really don't think about things women do to indicate low interest. If they start making things difficult I guess that is the biggest thing. Lack of energy and enthusiasm about meeting up. Slow to return calls... excuses... basically absence of effort on her part.

None of this means she isn't interested in you, it could be that you are just one of several dudes she is juggling. That isn't a problem really, but you can expect she isn't going to be jumping at every message you send her.

Best advice is to just respond in kind to her, I think the PUAs call it 'mirroring', but really it's just doing what she does. Don't invest any more time than she is willing to give you, that's all.
 

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Till this morning I had 2 plates spinning..
2 I had slept with.
5 are prospects

The ones I had slept with are still down to sleep with me and show enthusiasm for it.

The 5 PROSPECTS who hadn't showed the following signs:

1 said she's on her periods today so can't meet. No problem, Reschedule for next week Lete her know she has a tryout for the A team
1 said she has plans tomorrow (post birthday party) Great, let me know what Saturday, Sunday look like.... It's your Tryout date.
1 said she will let me know. No need to respond, if she does , she does... if she doesn't K' Bye....She's 3rd string at best
I'm so drunk rn Idk what the rest 2 said They keep showing up top practice so they can shag balls....
 

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Till this morning I had 6-7 plates spinning.

2 I had slept with.
5 I haven't.

The ones I had slept with are still down to sleep with me and show enthusiasm for it.

The 5 who hadn't showed the following signs:

1 said she's on her periods today so can't meet.
1 said she has plans tomorrow (post birthday party)
1 said she will let me know.
I'm so drunk rn Idk what the rest 2 said.

I quickly nexted these 5 at the first sign of apparent disinterest.

My question to you guys is, what signs are like immediate hard nexts or apparent disinterest?

When do you guys wait and watch and when do you completely block and go awol?
Those are great questions. And common questions as well. First off, you should put less emphasis on their reactions. Do not read too much into them. As many readers here have suggested, they are most likely BS excuses but some might be legit. Again, we all have lives and can't pretend to drop everything for someone they just "met". We would "act" (and in a genuine way) very cool about it, do not stress over it, and be un****withable. If they are truly interested they will offer a second option to meet, or at the very least contact you once they are available. Until then do your thing and expand your roster. The bigger it is, the less you will spend energy thinking about scenarios such as this one.

Cheers,
Modern Man Advice
 

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I'm really not much on texting. And to be honest I really don't think about things women do to indicate low interest. If they start making things difficult I guess that is the biggest thing. Lack of energy and enthusiasm about meeting up. Slow to return calls... excuses... basically absence of effort on her part.

None of this means she isn't interested in you, it could be that you are just one of several dudes she is juggling. That isn't a problem really, but you can expect she isn't going to be jumping at every message you send her.

Best advice is to just respond in kind to her, I think the PUAs call it 'mirroring', but really it's just doing what she does. Don't invest any more time than she is willing to give you, that's all.
This is the best advice thus far.

I would consider myself very good at plates and rotations, which is what you now are trying to manage. Sometimes it is easy, sometimes they make it difficult. But understand that the ones making it easy now could become difficult later and vice versa. So I would not recommend "going awol". Understand that they are women, and if they are very attractive and have value, it can take a little time for them to really start investing.

For that reason, nothing good comes about from throwing away potential pvssy. Just pull back. If they come running, great. Go for the kill. If they dont, you should have more chicks in the works to replace them.
 

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I don't know how you have the time or energy to spin that many women.
A chick could have simply grown a massive zit in the last 24 hours and got too embarrassed to meet up with a volcano on her forehead ready to explode.

I know back when I was a teenager, or in my early 20's, I'd probably cancel for that reason myself lol.
Bwaahaahaaa,,, So true. My gf tried cancelling a trophy presentation we had planned. (I wanted my arm candy).
I drive over there, walk in, and she's all embarrassed. With clothes laid out all over the bed. I said wtf is going on
With you Women? She said these exact words "I feel fat". Picture a blonde goddess with that perfect X-tra ten
Pounds. (facepalm)...
 

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Bwaahaahaaa,,, So true. My gf tried cancelling a trophy presentation we had planned. (I wanted my arm candy).
I drive over there, walk in, and she's all embarrassed. With clothes laid out all over the bed. I said wtf is going on
With you Women? She said these exact words "I feel fat". Picture a blonde goddess with that perfect X-tra ten
Pounds. (facepalm)...
Lol yup a girl can be feeling bloated and that could be all it takes for her to cancel or flake on a date.

I've known a few women who mentioned that they didn't eat the day of, or the day before dates, just to appear slimmer.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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