Why do women like games and manipulation

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Yeah, I guess this is true. Like we are classmates and every weekend I suggested something, she'ld say no. I would be like this girl doesn't like me enough and the next time we see in school, she would act like she did. Sometimes she would rest part of her chest on my shoulders. I guess she was just stringing me along.

The date that didn't happen cos of the exam, it was a new restaurant that just opened on campus. She suggested I take her there.

I should have known that she wasn't really interested based on our texts. She responds but rarely initiates like on 9:1. It was when I started pulling away she started initiating them and even called me once out of the blues
But I'm done with all that. Like I said, I've cut contact so there's going to be no effort from me again
Yes she is using the 'act just interested enough' to keep you on the string.

She wanted you as a validator and an orbiter. Always look at her actions. A girl can flirt, touch you, laugh with you show all kinds of indications of interest, but if she isn't agreeing to dates and texting/initiating, she just wants validation.


Her actions will tell you everything her mouth won't. She isn't interested
 

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she has her WhatsApp read notifications turned off since I've known her so I guess her aim was to know if I still view status.
I still see her Instagram and WhatsApp status frequently
You asked me why I said to stop stalking her, this is why. Go live your life instead of looking at her social media to see what she is doing and whether she is online.

Go offline and find new chicks.
 

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Toss the dog a bone (temptation).
Find their weakness (craving/desire/attachment)
Give them just a little of what they think they want.

Women are experts at this.
And it works well
 

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Yes she is using the 'act just interested enough' to keep you on the string.

She wanted you as a validator and an orbiter. Always look at her actions. A girl can flirt, touch you, laugh with you show all kinds of indications of interest, but if she isn't agreeing to dates and texting/initiating, she just wants validation.


Her actions will tell you everything her mouth won't. She isn't interested
Haha, the validation part. When we were just getting to know each other well, she once complained I rarely compliment or notice her dressing. She even made a joke that I would not make a very good husband cos of that, lol
Then I changed and started to compliment her more often. It's mutual though, she gives me lots of compliments, my haircut and dressing especially.

Maybe that's just her nature but I think I waited (about 2 years) too long as friend. Looking back again, I didn't wait that long cos she rejected from dates I tried to set up.

But I get it now, she's not interested or her IL is way too low
 

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Toss the dog a bone (temptation).
Find their weakness (craving/desire/attachment)
Give them just a little of what they think they want.

Women are experts at this.
Does this come natural to them or they learn it over time
 

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Haha, the validation part. When we were just getting to know each other well, she once complained I rarely compliment or notice her dressing. She even made a joke that I would not make a very good husband cos of that, lol
Then I changed and started to compliment her more often. It's mutual though, she gives me lots of compliments, my haircut and dressing especially.

Maybe that's just her nature but I think I waited (about 2 years) too long as friend. Looking back again, I didn't wait that long cos she rejected from dates I tried to set up.

But I get it now, she's not interested or her IL is way too low
Date other females who are into you. Some of the others who were "so so" might get motivated, but that's not the point. The point is you need the energy of someone who has a high interest. We cheat ourselves trying to raise interest, or pairing with a woman or even a male friend who does not share the same view of each other.
 

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You asked me why I said to stop stalking her, this is why. Go live your life instead of looking at her social media to see what she is doing and whether she is online.

Go offline and find new chicks.
Yeah thanks. I see her on it. It's not like I'm stalking
 

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Date other females who are into you. Some of the others who were "so so" might get motivated, but that's not the point. The point is you need the energy of someone who has a high interest. We cheat ourselves trying to raise interest, or pairing with a woman or even a male friend who does not share the same view of each other.
This is true. Someone who makes effort too
When I was trying to get her, I know a particular girl in class that wanted me and was trying to get me but I was too fixated.
Now that it didn't work out, she acts coldly to me now.

Now, regardless of what type of relationship, both parties must put in effort to show interest
 

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This is true. Someone who makes effort too
When I was trying to get her, I know a particular girl in class that wanted me and was trying to get me but I was too fixated.
Now that it didn't work out, she acts coldly to me now.

Now, regardless of what type of relationship, both parties must put in effort to show interest
Whats funny is with the right girlfriend you can fvck them all. They're Uber competitive
 

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I think reality for women is very different than what it is for men. Everything I get I have to work for it plain and simple. But women can really get alot through the manipulation of men and the legal system. In the US laws are absolutely on women's side. You let her stay two weeks in your house and now she's a legal resident with rights over your property and legally has to be evicted if you want her to leave. You can literally be hostage in your own home just like that. You get pissed off she gets a restraining order and she can kick you out of your home just like that! Marry a girl and she gets RIGHTS to so much of your property. Even a "nice girl" can turn sour after lawyers catch her ear and make you pay the court costs for her law suit against you! Legally! Marrying a woman in most cases entitles her to the same quality of life you have, and in some cases she can live that way on your dime until she dies. That means if she got used to living a million dollar lifestyle with you and you leave her. Now you have to support her million dollar lifestyle even if you don't make that much money any more. I think women are really catching on to this and they realize they can make a good living like this. So they are born into an environment that fosters this sneaky manipulative behavior. And the craziest thing about it is that society thinks this is fair! The one good thing I hope comes with the LGBTQ alphabet movement is that I hope it normalizes relationships between people. Two people in a relationship should both be equal. If the relationship ends you should take what you brought into the relationship and that's it! But at least in the US that's definitely not how it is...
But it is the same if she lets a guy stay at her place for 2 weeks too. It's not one sided in that way.
 

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Does this come natural to them or they learn it over time
I think it comes naturally, but they also learn tricks from each other. That's why women like to sit around chatting. A lot of women's dating advice is based on how to manipulate men to get their money and committment.

Have you ever noticed that women like to say that they're strong and independent, but when anything needs paying for or something difficult or dangerous needs to be done they say "that's the man's job".
 

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Games: to test your frame and manhood!

The girl want a man that put a frame to her existence.

It's mostly caused by her insecurity and emotional instability.... Especially about her view of YOU.

Some women are so unstable, they play games all the time...next them.. They will be the death of you.

So Games are test, they okay when you are a the first stage(meeting/initiation), not okay at dating
 

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Haha, the validation part. When we were just getting to know each other well, she once complained I rarely compliment or notice her dressing. She even made a joke that I would not make a very good husband cos of that, lol
Then I changed and started to compliment her more often. It's mutual though, she gives me lots of compliments, my haircut and dressing especially.

Maybe that's just her nature but I think I waited (about 2 years) too long as friend. Looking back again, I didn't wait that long cos she rejected from dates I tried to set up.

But I get it now, she's not interested or her IL is way too low
She had more feels and was more emotionally attached when you didn't compliment her. She was crying for the attention you weren't giving her and she was pulling on you to try to get more and you were winning....you were being a challenge.

Then you changed and defeated all challenge and started complimenting her all the time and validating her and feeding her ego and you slipped into her frame and became weak in her eyes.


You are better off when she is unsure how you feel.
 
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