Why do women like games and manipulation

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So I've cut off all contact with this girl(most of my posts here were about her). No text or calls for about two months now

I didn't block or unfollow her, I still see her Instagram and WhatsApp status frequently. I either ignore them or give no reply if I view them

I posted an advert on my WhatsApp status about my website and later that day, I saw she reposted the link. I wanted to ignore it but I thought that would be rude so I replied with thanks yyy. I just felt it was ingenuine. She didn't reply back

For some reason, she has her WhatsApp read notifications turned off since I've known her so I guess her aim was to know if I still view status. I don't know but I have a strong feeling that's why

Like, is all this necessary, playing silly games?
 
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I forgot - have you asked her out?
Yes. The date didn't eventually happen due to exams. But she rejected some before then saying she was busy

After that, I told I liked her on the phone. She said she was in a relationship. I still tried to hold on but now I'm detached
 

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So I've cut off all contact with this girl(most of my posts here were about her). No text or calls for about two months now

I didn't block or unfollow her, I still see her Instagram and WhatsApp status frequently. I either ignore them or give no reply if I view them

I posted an advert on my WhatsApp status about my website and later that day, I saw she reposted the link. I wanted to ignore it but I thought that would be rude so I replied with thanks yyy. I just felt it was ingenuine. She didn't reply back

For some reason, she has her WhatsApp read notifications turned off since I've known her so I guess her aim was to know if I still view status. I don't know but I have a strong feeling that's why

Like, is all this necessary, playing silly games?
You didn't reach out to her because you did not want to be rude, you reached out because you wanted to hope she would give you a chance. Don't ever chase a girl...you reaching out to her is chasing. I didn't read your other posts but I am assuming you asked her out and she rejected you in some way or something along those lines.

The only way you ever talk to this girl is if she reaches out to you directly. Also you will not take her on a date, you invite her over to your place and you let her clear out your pipes
 

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You didn't reach out to her because you did not want to be rude, you reached out because you wanted to hope she would give you a chance. Don't ever chase a girl...you reaching out to her is chasing. I didn't read your other posts but I am assuming you asked her out and she rejected you in some way or something along those lines.

The only way you ever talk to this girl is if she reaches out to you directly. Also you will not take her on a date, you invite her over to your place and you let her clear out your pipes
Yes, she said she is in a relationship.
You would have ignored it?
Yeah I get it now. Thanks
 

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Well, it's less her games and more what's in your mind. The WhatsApp read notifications - who cares. You're hyper analyzing. So even though you've "cut contact," you're still wondering and waiting and observing her actions. Her only "game" is that as a female, she doesn't want to feel like the bad guy, or be the object of your scorn. If she can keep you as a friendly orbiter, she will. Hence she reposted your ad. She wants to make clear that even though she turned you down, she's not a bad person.

You made your interest clear, and right now she's not interested...I think she made that equally clear. You've got oneitis, many of us have been there. Your best bet is to find other girls to ask out. It works wonders.
This makes sense. I guess maybe she's still in my mind then but I see her pictures and videos and I feel little to nothing literally

I've asked someone else out and I'm still talking to others so we'll see

So you would have ignored her post?

Thanks
 

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I may sound harsh but man the fvck up and don't pursue her. You tried your propositions, now proceed on to the next one. When you post a photo with a new girl she will be blowing your phone but you will give her you know what? NOTHING. That's it man.
 
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I may sound harsh but man the fvck up and don't pursue her. You tried your propositions, now proceed on to the next one. When you post a photo with a new girl she will be blowing your phone but you will give her you know what? NOTHING. That's it man.
I'm working on that, thanks. I'm talking to new girls right now
 

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Yes. The date didn't eventually happen due to exams. But she rejected some before then saying she was busy

After that, I told I liked her on the phone. She said she was in a relationship. I still tried to hold on but now I'm detached
It's because women are non-confrontational usually and hope men are socially in-tune to get the hints she is giving you. She isn't interested. Stop wasting time thinking about her and why or what she is doing etc, and go work on finding more women.

Women like free attention and if they can get a bunch of orbiters to give it to them then they will.
 

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Hmm I get it, it's the intention behind it that really matters. I'm going to work on that
Yeah, I don't see any reason to block her. Yes, personal improvement has to be constant. I've taken note of your suggestions and I'll work on them. Thanks
I would have done whatever I wanted, keeping in mind that my actions should come from a place of personal high value and happiness.

That sounds wishy-washy, and it can be easy to rationalize things so you have to be mindful of why you're reacting a certain way.

Example, you see her post, and choose to ignore it, but out of spite. That's still indulging a negative reaction. (The act of doing nothing will help, but I'm talking about your mindset.) Or you respond hoping she'll suddenly like you - that's coming from neediness. (I would say the BEST path if you're feeling either of these is no response, and to acknowledge that you're in a weak spot and need to work on your mindset. It's fine to be bothered, but try to explore why.)

Conversely you can ignore because you think "whatever, she's just a dork." Or, you can respond with the same mindset. She's worth a chuckle and an eye roll if she's worth that. I can tell this is not where you are because you said you thanked her but she didn't reply - you are still dependent on her reaction.

For me, if a girl rejects me, I never block her (barring blatant disrespect) because 1) I see no reason to close the door on a girl I could fukk down the road and 2) my attraction/feelings are not her fault or responsibility. That doesn't mean I act like a simp or a "beta orbiter." I just carry on with life and stay cordial.

This was a very small non-event in the grand scheme of things, but it's a good opportunity to break it all down and see where you can improve personally. Otherwise your issues might rear their head in a bigger moment (kiss/sex rejection, e.g.). When you're on a wavelength of self-acceptance and being true to yourself, nothing a chick does (or doesn't do) can throw you off. I recommend starting with personal affirmations, or making a list of everything awesome about yourself. There are also some YouTube videos to this end - for building your inner "game," which can help you across the board, not just with chicks.
 

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It's because women are non-confrontational usually and hope men are socially in-tune to get the hints she is giving you. She isn't interested. Stop wasting time thinking about her and why or what she is doing etc, and go work on finding more women.

Women like free attention and if they can get a bunch of orbiters to give it to them then they will.
Thank you BackInTheGame. I'm working on that and talking to other girls.

I rarely give them undue attention nowadays
 

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Thank you BackInTheGame. I'm working on that and talking to other girls.

I rarely give them undue attention nowadays
You are young, I wish this site was available when I was your age...actually we didn't even have internet yet when I was your age...hahaha
 

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There you go. Don't get me wrong, you can block her if you feel it's necessary, for you. There's nothing wrong with admitting to yourself "I like her and I need a break from seeing her posts to move past it." Just make sure you're being honest with yourself. Humans are constantly putting up fronts...but once you start turning them inward, you'll kid yourself over what's best for you. (And you don't owe anyone else an explanation, anyway.)
I don't need to block her
Thanks a lot
 

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OP to thread title.

Emotional insecurity and the constant flux of emotion from day to day.

Emotional logic in a female is the sub structure as why they can (what we see) as lieing to the bitter end.
But to them its completely justified.

Whagt to do?

WATCH BEHAVIOR/ Actions and how she treats you daily....
Yes, not only their words
 

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I think reality for women is very different than what it is for men. Everything I get I have to work for it plain and simple. But women can really get alot through the manipulation of men and the legal system. In the US laws are absolutely on women's side. You let her stay two weeks in your house and now she's a legal resident with rights over your property and legally has to be evicted if you want her to leave. You can literally be hostage in your own home just like that. You get pissed off she gets a restraining order and she can kick you out of your home just like that! Marry a girl and she gets RIGHTS to so much of your property. Even a "nice girl" can turn sour after lawyers catch her ear and make you pay the court costs for her law suit against you! Legally! Marrying a woman in most cases entitles her to the same quality of life you have, and in some cases she can live that way on your dime until she dies. That means if she got used to living a million dollar lifestyle with you and you leave her. Now you have to support her million dollar lifestyle even if you don't make that much money any more. I think women are really catching on to this and they realize they can make a good living like this. So they are born into an environment that fosters this sneaky manipulative behavior. And the craziest thing about it is that society thinks this is fair! The one good thing I hope comes with the LGBTQ alphabet movement is that I hope it normalizes relationships between people. Two people in a relationship should both be equal. If the relationship ends you should take what you brought into the relationship and that's it! But at least in the US that's definitely not how it is...
 

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You can eliminate all the games by unfollowing her on all platforms and/or blocking her. Simple.
This would seem butt hurt as we were really close before I told her my feelings. Some of my friends even thought we were dating.
I guess just acting normal is best
 

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Why would you care? If she has no interest, she has no interest. Why care what someone who has no interest thinks of you?

I asked a local woman out - she couldn't due to family obligations. Asked her a second time a couple weeks later and she said she would let me know "for sure" in two days. She never did. So deleted her from FB, and carried on. Granted she was not a friend, merely an acquaintance. She lives in a very rural area, so do I, I found her modestly attractive and thought why not? But really, if it wasn't important enough to you to even get back to me? Then I have to assume you are not interested.

A woman with high interest likely would not have forgotten. If she had, she would reach out and apologize and try and re-sched. Do I hate her? Not at all!!! She lives a few doors away, and when I see her I still wave, and she waves back.

But I won't be asking her out again unless she contacts me, or chats me up in public.

Do I care what she thinks of me deleting her? Not one little bit.
It would have been easier if I tried to date her from the onset but it's way more complicated than that. I've known her for over 2 years now. It's not because I'm hoping she'll be back but there's no need to burn the bridge.

When school resumes, I'll be seeing her almost everyday. I plan to wave or say a quick hello if I see her.
 

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Sure, do whatever you are comfortable with. In the meantime, try and meet other women and date them. Get your mind off her.

A nice touch is if you were walking hand in hand with a girl the next time you saw her.

This happened with me, and and an ex. I was walking hand in hand with a new GF, while the ex was coming towards me in a mall. I passed within a couple feet of her, and never acknowledged her existence. The look on her face was priceless. It was as if she had been kicked in the cunny.

Internally, I was laughing - laughing hard.
Haha, I'm smiling imagining this. I'll definitely try this. Did your ex try to get your attention after that?

I'm talking new girls at home but very limited. Universities are yet to reopen in my country so it's quite difficult.
 

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I'm glad I found this website. I can't imagine learning from bitter experiences.
your biggest test will be when women go all wishy washy, or go cold, mess you around etc etc

my uncle knows all this stuff yet he still folded like a tent after a woman gave him a nights passion, and she went all distant a few weeks in
 
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