She asks me to help her at home, but we didn´t kiss/had s**

[Spaz]

The problem is that there's a lot of overlap, and that it's often indecipherable by the parties involved.

Fearlessness is often confused with courage, but fearlessness is a symptom of psychopathy; whereas, courage is the willingness to face danger, to do the right thing("to march into Hell, for a Heavenly cause").

The creep might dream of robbing the bank, but is afraid. (fearful)

The psychopath robs the bank, without fear.(fearless)

The hero confronts the bank robbers, despite the the danger to himself.(courageous)

That's a simplification, but women are attracted to both the psychopath and the hero, and often don't know the difference between courage and fearlessness. The fearful creep is easier to single out.

"Badboy" is an imperfect term, but tends to describe a man who isn't restrained by fear from doing either what he thinks should, or isn't compelled by it to do what society dictates he should. The problem, of course, is that when societal norms are the result of long established traditions, there's usually some sense behind them...which is why so many "badboys" end up in prison or dead.

In a way yes, there's so many shades to the bad boy.

Some bad boy, despite being poor, would hustle and sell drugs to make ends meet for his struggling family, and yet clever enough to save up, and open a legitimate business.

Plenty of guys I know that's successful now had a checkered past and they're one of the good guys to do business with, always true to their word, they promise something, I can expect it to be done.

When I'm in trouble, they'll be the 1st to lead a helping hand and they will enjoy making fun of how stupid I am.

There's also plenty of guys I know that gives out a Mr. Nice guy vibe and projects it so well to society but when I'm doing business with them, I expect them to be cunning enough to cheat somewhere along the line.

And if I'm in trouble, they will be the 1st to offer excuses.

If its me, I'd take the bad boy businessman over the good boy businessman and make him my buddy.

And finally, the bad boy businessman is exciting and adventurous.

I guess the bad boy all have something in common, fearlessness, courageous, risk taker, etc - qualities which by itself is the very essence of manliness.

 

[Spaz]

Isn't it possible that, in some of these cases, the girl is even hoping that the guy friend will get tired of being taken advantage of, and will terminate the relationship on his own?

Haha

2 years ago, in this very forum, a question like this would be met with a lot of challenges.

Some would even call it an insult and you'd be accused of supporting women instead of men.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Do you have any female friends you wouldn't have as GFs or FWBs, not because they're terrible people, but because they fall just outside your standards...or W A Y outside your standards?

If so, let's assume one of these girls came over frequently, and was a bit under foot. She didn't make any overtures to be your GF, but it was obvious to you that she would like that, if you were receptive to it -- which you aren't.

Let's further assume you don't want to hurt her feelings, by overtly discouraging her from time-mooching you, but she compensates for her intrusions by cooking for you, doing your dishes, cleaning your home, and doing your laundry.

Taking the fringe benefits into account...perhaps even augmented by the barely subdued(if at all) jealousy your actual GF displays over the arrangement, how long do you delay having the talk with your gal pal?

Sure, it's not exactly the same thing, but it's close enough to illustrate the point. Most of the time a girl's FZ'd guy friends don't need to be asked to do favors, because they jump at the chance, and do them voluntarily, before they're even asked. Women are natural receivers, anyway, and are much more comfortable accepting unreciprocated favors from men, unsolicited or not.

Isn't it possible that, in some of these cases, the girl is even hoping that the guy friend will get tired of being taken advantage of, and will terminate the relationship on his own?

Honestly can't picture it man. Never had a fat chick come over and cook for me

 

[Spaz]

Again, though, "badboy" is a misnomer for what you're describing, in the sense that people use it to describe the archetype preferred by women, because many women will even chase incarcerated serial killers(the ultimate badboys?).

If we're just talking about men willing to take on a corrupt establishment, against all odds, and to continue to fight, when seeming to do so alone and vastly outnumbered and overpowered, even when threatened with death and poverty, when it would be much easier, safer, and more lucrative to conform to the norm...then Donald Trump is the ultimate badboy...although years of investigation have actually proven he's the closest thing to a boyscout, probably, of any man who's ever held that office.

Donald trump would qualify as a bad boy.

 

[metalwater]

If its me, I'd take the bad boy businessman over the good boy businessman and make him my buddy.

Nice guys can be dishonest and not much integrity. Nerds and bad boy are usually honest and loyal. They both do it out of principle. Nice guys are too wise to have principals. Nerds and bad boys can make great friends. A nerd with the endorsement of a bad boy will always get some poon. A bad boy with the endorsement of a nerd will usually be able to pass most society requirements. The friendship is usually based on trust and can be symbiotic.

Correct about bad boy businessman, also consider nerds when needing to make alliances. you will find strengths that come in handy.

 

[Spaz]

Nice guys can be dishonest and not much integrity. Nerds and bad boy are usually honest and loyal. They both do it out of principle. Nice guys are too wise to have principals. Nerds and bad boys can make great friends. A nerd with the endorsement of a bad boy will always get some poon. A bad boy with the endorsement of a nerd will usually be able to pass most society requirements. The friendship is usually based on trust and can be symbiotic.

Correct about bad boy businessman, also consider nerds when needing to make alliances. you will find strengths that come in handy.

One of my most loyal friend is a super nerd and we have been buddies for 30 odd years.

Nerds is just slow in social settings or more correctly slow to grasp double talk, it's due to the fact that their mind power is more focused on other issues.

Other then that they're excellent, generally most are provided they don't turn bitter and become extremists.