BLM, Racism, riots, entitlement's etc

[zekko]

But just because you or I haven't recently had a bad interaction with the police to feel our life is in danger by them when we leave our home, doesn't mean it is not true for other people. This is a reality that many people face.

There's no question people have had interactions with the police that resulted in bad outcomes. But I think those incidents that are racially motivated are extremely rare. Nonetheless, many cops have an entitlement attitude, and I am in favor of some sort of police reform that doesn't paint them all as villains. In any case, I think the recent movement emphasizes race and amplifies racial resentment, and I think that is not only a very dangerous thing, I don't believe it is effective in the long run. It will only lead to more hatred and violence.

The opportunity for reform was there after the George Floyd killing, everyone saw what happened, everyone agreed something should be done. But instead of taking that opportunity, people wanted to continue to kill people and break things, and that moment was lost. Now we're back to division.

 

[Kotaix]

Also, can we, as the oppressed, really afford to wait for a Martin Luther King, Jr, II, to come into the scene and start a new civil rights movement

This right here explains absolutely everything about your world view and why it's so toxic and wrong.

This is classic victimhood mentality. You aren't willing to put in any effort of your own to solve your problems or be the change you want to see. You're content to just sit on your ass and whine about racial inequality and women ignoring you, while you wait for some hypothetical savior to come in and solve all your problem for you.

The problem isn't with the world, the problem is with you. Or at least it's the one problem you could solve if you actually tried.

Not that I expect you to listen to any of this.

 

[corrector]

Interesting points from @zekko. I did post an article up and a video and feel it would be doing yourselves an intellectual service read the article I posted or watch the video.

Just note the post where

@Kotaix The posts follow up is not about me but about a cause and because I feel this thread is losing some good intellectual momentum.

 

[mickdollaz]

The entire point of blm is to subvert western cultures and compromise them to the point that jews can control them and pound them into utter submission.

This means that China and Russia and East Asia and Eastern Europe will emerge as the new superpowers and regional powers.

Canada might emerge as the remaining dominant power in America, as mexicans and blacks are so focused on destroying the US.

Idiocracy gives you a good idea of where this country is headed, and that's an optimistic view, sadly enough.

 

[metalwater]

Anyone ever seen the movie Network? Life imitates art imitates life.

WME Signs Black Lives Matter Co-Founder Opal Tometi

WME Signs Black Lives Matter Co-Founder Opal Tometi

deadline.com

that girl is a bit good looking ?

 

[Epicenter]

that girl is a bit good looking ?

The girl is a daughter of Nigerian immigrants. Nigerians in the US are said to be "priviledged". So how can she represent the "oppressed" folks?

 

[metalwater]

Elaborate?

If it isn't obvious to you then it's an exercise of futility to explain it.

But I'm sure ur attempts to make some of our Caucasian members here feel guilty is making some headway, whilst for some other neutral Caucasians are up in a defensive position and those who are white racists enjoying every bit of these discussion as much as you are.

I don't fit any of those... I think it is interesting how some and some groups can so completely miss the reasons for things. it becomes a problem for others when the group is large. it is just sad (but interesting) when it is just a few or less. Your viewpoint is valuable; as you don't have any skin in this issue but likely understand most of the issues. I could see that on other threads we all agree on many other things. what would it take for them to understand.....

 

[corrector]

Death by asphyxiation should make all of us feel guilty. Do you not agree? (George Floyd, Eric Garner

How about death at 12 years old for playing with a toy gun? (Tamar Rice)

How about having the police murder you in your own apartment? (Breona Taylor, Botham Jean)

You forgot Black security guards doing their jobs by preventing potential mass shootings that were in uniform when the racist cop shot them:
(Jemel Robertson, Adnres Guardado)

Or Black cops shot by White officers:
(Omar Edwards, Milton Green).

Its so bad that Black police officers have an independent Police Union to White police officers in Dallas.

We should really be pointing out that black security guards and black police should be able to do their jobs without worrying about being shot and killed by white officers who are just gun-go to kill another black suspect and say "they felt threatened".

 

[corrector]

This right here explains absolutely everything about your world view and why it's so toxic and wrong.

This is classic victimhood mentality. You aren't willing to put in any effort of your own to solve your problems or be the change you want to see. You're content to just sit on your ass and whine about racial inequality and women ignoring you, while you wait for some hypothetical savior to come in and solve all your problem for you.

The problem isn't with the world, the problem is with you. Or at least it's the one problem you could solve if you actually tried.

Not that I expect you to listen to any of this.

I think there is enough posts and discussion on here that I've (and @EyeBRollin established that Blacks, from all walks of life, are being harassed, getting drugs planted on them, or being put in jail (i.e. even if it's overnight at the police jail infested with urine and feces and stench) based entirely on the mercy of the officers dealing with them. Saying that the Black community needs to improve themselves in order for police to value their lives is absurd. That didn't work with Philando Castille or Breonna Taylor who was working in emergency care.

Anyway, I'm going to put you on ignore because I believe I've responded in a similar way to one of your posts before and I think at this point if you still retain such a low opinion of me, or the Black community, after this course of time and discussion then your posts directed at me are no longer worthy to be read.

 

[Epicenter]

I think there is enough posts and discussion on here that I've (and @EyeBRollin established that Blacks, from all walks of life, are being harassed, getting drugs planted on them, or being put in jail (i.e. even if it's overnight at the police jail infested with urine and feces and stench) based entirely on the mercy of the officers dealing with them. Saying that the Black community needs to improve themselves in order for police to value their lives is absurd. That didn't work with Philando Castille or Breonna Taylor who was working in emergency care.

Anyway, I'm going to put you on ignore because I believe I've responded in a similar way to one of your posts before and I think at this point if you have such a low opinion of me, or the Black community, then your posts directed at me are no longer worthy to be read.

Even let's say that they are treated unfair and immoral you still have to deal with one fact of life:

Life is not fair. You can not force a dominant group your will if you don't have the power. You can escalate and have the risk that the dominant group uses extreme measures. The question is is it worth to take the risk?

Examples in history: India. Turkey. Greece. Balkans. In many countries large parts of the people had to leave the country because the hate was too big.

 

[corrector]

Even let's say that they are treated unfair and immoral you still have to deal with one fact of life:

Life is not fair. You can not force a dominant group your will if you don't have the power. You can escalate and have the risk that the dominant group uses extreme measures. The question is is it worth to take the risk?

Examples in history: India. Turkey. Greece. Balkans. In many countries large parts of the people had to leave the country because the hate was too big.

Most of the protesters in many areas, like Portland are white. It is not a simple black vs white race war as that is not the realistic version of America today. The BLM looks like it is being taken over numerically by whites and this turning even more people off from Trump. Notice he cant even say Thugs but uses terms like Antifa and Anarchists. Sounding more like a civil war than a race war.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Even let's say that they are treated unfair and immoral you still have to deal with one fact of life:

Life is not fair. You can not force a dominant group your will if you don't have the power. You can escalate and have the risk that the dominant group uses extreme measures. The question is is it worth to take the risk?

Examples in history: India. Turkey. Greece. Balkans. In many countries large parts of the people had to leave the country because the hate was too big.

Human rights are always worth the risk. Black people are not at fault for demanding civil rights. To argue that black people should be cautious of “extreme retaliatory measures” just shows how scary equality is to some white folks.

 

[Epicenter]

Most of the protesters in many areas, like Portland are white. It is not a simple black vs white race war as that is not the realistic version of America today. The BLM looks like it is being taken over numerically by whites and this turning even more people off from Trump. Notice he cant even say Thugs but uses terms like Antifa and Anarchists. Sounding more like a civil war than a race war.

In the end it doesn't matter. If you have two groups who can't live together they have to divide geographically.

 

[Epicenter]

Human rights are always worth the risk. Black people are not at fault for demanding civil rights. To argue that black people should be cautious of “extreme retaliatory measures” just shows how scary equality is to some white folks.

I gave you the example of other countries. Groups inside the same race had to go to other places as they could not live together. It can be just the worldview of the group.

 

[EyeBRollin]

In the end it doesn't matter. If you have two groups who can't live together they have to divide geographically.

The only reason they “can’t” is racism.

 

[mickdollaz]

"Human rights" lol. For fags, trannies, blacks, feminists and any other freaks.

But no "human rights" for normal people.

 

[Epicenter]

The only reason they “can’t” is racism.

If that is the case and if they are more dominant what makes sense to do against the situation?

 

[corrector]

If that is the case and if they are more dominant what makes sense to do against the situation?

I don't feel that the KKK, or hardcore Trump fanatics are the dominant group anymore. The polls now tend towards the Democrats.

I think people will be very fanatical about coming out to vote in this election coming up.

If the Democrats make good in their word and start making real police reforms all over the place, then we would see the fruits of all these protests that are occurring right now. (My other thread may not wish the Democrats to win if they have an anti-Israel policy, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, etc... so I don't have a fixed position as to who I would support).

 

[corrector]

White supremacist pretending to be protesters in BLM movements to defame the group.

 

[Epicenter]

I don't feel that the KKK, or hardcore Trump fanatics are the dominant group anymore. The polls now tend towards the Democrats.

I think people will be very fanatical about coming out to vote in this election coming up.

If the Democrats make good in their word and start making real police reforms all over the place, then we would see the fruits of all these protests that are occurring right now. (My other thread may not wish the Democrats to win if they have an anti-Israel policy, pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, etc... so I don't have a fixed position as to who I would support).

Still you have to figure out where to draw the line. If a big part of the society is "racist or have racist tendencies" they can poison the society for the whole country.