Unable To Use Tinder Unless I Agree With BLM Movement!

[Zontyy]

This is one of the first listed policy positions on BLM official website. It was stated a few pages back that black lives matter is racist. What about this position is racist?

They can state on website they are not racist, but that goes against what they are promoting and actual doing similar to most fascists. Hitler used the jews as a scape goat. BLM uses the police as a scape goat. They promote violence and riots which promote racism towards their race. They want to "disrupt Western-prescribed nuclear family structure" which already happened with feminism and welfare. They promote queer,trans and black women for black women all these degrade the culture and family unit.

 

[corrector]

A person using a gun is killing themselves is suicide if it was a different person it would be a murder. A mother killing her child is killing a different person not themselves. If if the mother wanted to kill herself sure go for it. Killing her child is different, of course this will turn into the debate of when does life begin etc etc etc.

People also protest in front of abortion clinics too. There should be no issue to protest police killings either. Unjust state sanctioned murder is wrong. But if you are going to pick on BLM then be fair and also attack Amnesty International for not opposing abortion as a human rights violation either. Argue Amnesty International is a communist organization becauae it is obsessed with extrajudicial killings in third world dictatorships rather than abortion so dictatorships are valid.

 

[zekko]

As for Jesus, you do know what the actual historical flesh And blood Jesus looked like, right?

Jesus was Jewish. But I don't care if people have black, white, Chinese, or Eskimo Jesus in their church, I'm not going to go in there and demand they take down their stained glass windows and replace them with something more to my liking. Let alone throw a stone through them. We can always have a dialogue about what statues are inappropriate, but when you go after the churches you've gone too far.

One thing I'm surprised I still see are those black jockey statues in people's yards, I would have thought those would have been long gone by now.

 

[Zontyy]

People also protest in front of abortion clinics too.

Protesting is fine, get your permits be in your designated area and protest. I completely think that is ok and great.

I’m against extremists. Extremists bomb abortion clinics, block traffic, promote riots and destruction of property bombing of airplanes. Mass shootings like the one in Australia.

Violence begets violence.

BLM lost all credibility in my eyes and lots of others when they promoted extremism.

 

[EyeBRollin]

They can state on website they are not racist, but that goes against what they are promoting and actual doing similar to most fascists.

Translation: “I don’t care what BLM actually is, they are what I say they are”

Hitler used the jews as a scape goat. BLM uses the police as a scape goat.

Comparing this:

We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people.

to Hitler is pathetic.

They promote violence and riots which promote racism towards their race.

Man up and ditch the pretense. There’s no such thing as “bringing racism toward their race.” You already hold those views.

They want to "disrupt Western-prescribed nuclear family structure" which already happened with feminism and welfare. They promote queer,trans and black women for black women all these degrade the culture and family unit.

This requires critical thinking to under stand. That little black kid who’s father was murdered by police, has to find father figures elsewhere - grandfathers, uncles, older brothers, coaches, male teachers. You’re way too deep in your racism to understand.

Cheers.

 

[Zontyy]

This requires critical thinking to under stand. That little black kid who’s father was murdered by police, has to find father figures elsewhere - grandfathers, uncles, older brothers, coaches, male teachers. You’re way too deep in your racism to understand.

His father wouldn’t be murdered by police if he was actually working and had a decent upbringing he wouldn’t be smoking weed. This comes back to government policy that destroys the family unit.

I know all too well black kids looking for fathers figures. I’m a father figure to one right now. Being that my future son is going to be his half brother I want what is best for him as well. I don’t plan on playing favorites family is family. When they are older I want to take them both down to Morristown NJ show them my roots.

 

[corrector]

Violence begets violence.

BLM lost all credibility in my eyes and lots of others when they promoted extremism.

What about the mayor of Washinton D.C. putting Black Lives Matter on the street, and naming a street Black Lives Matter? This is being endorsed and recognized as a legitimate movement by politicians. Also, seeing you are above slavery, you have the Haitian island revolution (Aug 14, 1791 - Jan 1, 1804), and the Nat Turner slave rebellion of August 1831. Do you see those two historical examples as legitimate or as extremist? Do you think you are mixing up other left wing groups up with BLM, such as Antifa, Anarchists, since burning down buildings or creating that level of damage has to have the cooperation of other organizations outside of BLM? If their methods are not working, then how is it you think that the most modern right-wing president in the world is even drafting up orders for more police accountability?

 

[zekko]

What about the mayor of Washinton D.C. putting Black Lives Matter on the street, and naming a street Black Lives Matter?

She also had #DefundthePolice painted on the street even though she said she was against it. By the way, that painting in the street was one of the ugliest "murals" I have ever seen. The CHOP zone in Seattle painted Black Lives Matter in the street, and their version was much more artistic looking, and was actually pleasing to the eye.

If their methods are not working, then how is it you think that the most modern right-wing president in the world is even drafting up orders for more police accountability?

We all saw the George Floyd video. We were all against it. We were all horrified by it. We all wanted police reform. Then the extremism started. There was no reason to burn, loot, destroy, assault, occupy, or murder. We all want justice and equality, it's the radical extremes we object to.

 

[EyeBRollin]

We all saw the George Floyd video. We were all against it. We were all horrified by it. We all wanted police reform. Then the extremism started. There was no reason to burn, loot, destroy, assault, occupy, or murder. We all want justice and equality, it's the radical extremes we object to.

Why the past tense? No longer support police reform?

 

[zekko]

Why the past tense? No longer support police reform?

Still support it.

 

[Zontyy]

Why the past tense? No longer support police reform?

I think majority want police reform, my self included. I personal hate the idea of police writing bogus tickets and fines just to fund their department. It's always funny to me how police are most active at the beginning and end of the month. Let's be honest someone getting a ticket for jay walking or broken headlight shouldn't even be a thing. These people are poor already why kick them while they are down? A warning sure and perhaps a ticket for multiple repeat offenders.

In fact I want reforms a crossed a broad spectrum. The reason why I want to reform welfare and divorce courts along with abortion is to combat poverty and promote family values. In turn police departments and jails would need smaller budgets because less crime instead of just big business. I want my tax dollars to go into infrastructure, education, state/local parks, and scientific pursuits not into police departments and jails. I also want de-regulation of certain prescription drugs, more of these things should be over the counter and not need a doctor to write a script. Don't get me wrong doctors are useful but they should better utilized. I'm against immigration temporary as a whole right because america has some of the best and brightest already we should taking care of our people first. While I dislike aide going to poor countries while our own people suffer, I understand it's necessary to keep the global hegemony. We personally don't have time for all this infighting, globalization is happening whether we like it or not and if were not careful we will fall behind.

Don't get me wrong I still want welfare and things like social security because there are some legitimate people that do need it. I think there needs to be some strict and major reforms all over america.

This might sound a bit sexist but I personally believe when we allowed women into politics started our downfall because the majority women are about feelings instead of logic and facts.

 

[Glassguy]

Wouldnt that also include not burning down people's businesses, beating of old people for no reason, stealing and looting other people's property? Or does that not apply when it doesnt work in your favor?

@EyeBRollin

Still waiting on your answer to this as well.

You see, you're one of those people

@EyeBRollin Still waiting on an answer to this.

@EyeBRollin

Are you going to answer the fvcking question or not? Stop stalling. If you cant answer questions then GTFO the forum. Stop dodging.....seems to be all that youre good at.

 

[corrector]

This might sound a bit sexist but I personally believe when we allowed women into politics started our downfall because the majority women are about feelings instead of logic and facts.

I do recommend "On the Basis of Sex", 2018, movie where Felicity Jones portrays RBG as a lawyer where you see a landmark legal decision. Also Battle of the Sexes, 2017 is a great movie with was a popular tennis match between men and women between Bobby Riggs and Billy Jean King. Were you around during the early seventies? Suffragete, 2015, is another movie highlighting woman's struggle to get voting rights in England where they staged a stunt during a horse race in order to get media attention of that time and see change. I don't get the impression you are portraying based on viewing those movies about the subjects though.

 

[Glassguy]

Privilege is:

Wearing $200 sneakers when your ass doesnt have a job.

Having $300 Beats headphones when you live on public assistance.

Having a smartphone with data and receiving no bill.

Ability to go march against and protest anything that triggers and offends you, while not worrying about calling off work or assuming any consequences for such behavior.

Having as many kids as you want, regardless of your employment status or salary, and being able to send them off to daycare or school that you dont pay for while your lazy ass sits at home and plays video games all day.

Taking advantage of affirmative action for a job you were handed while other more qualified people continue to look for work. After receiving said job, you pull the affirmative action card on the employer who at that point might face legal implications if they fire you.

Receiving free health care, free housing, free food and still complain about anything and everything to the people that are supplying those things to you. As if it isnt good enough.

Learning to use the words "I am offended" to get everything handed to you instead of working hard to get ahead in life.

That is privilege. I am CERTAINLY not privileged.

 

[zekko]

Let's be honest someone getting a ticket for jay walking or broken headlight shouldn't even be a thing.

I agree with that, but that isn't the fault of the police, it's a legislative problem. I think the protesters are focusing too much of their anger on the police, when it's the people above them who pull the strings.

There are bad cops, and they should be dealt with. But I don't want to see police being so demonized and hamstrung that they are unable to even defend themselves without fear of being prosecuted for hate crimes. Which is the way things look right now, because politicians have sold them out for political gain. They're little more than pawns in this game.

 

[Glassguy]

I find it extremely hypocritical that one group is demanding the removal of some statues that represent an era and history of this country while forcing their race demands down everyone's throats.
That's supposed to be equality? I dont think so. Its hypocrisy at its finest.

How about we take ALL statues down.......including the black leaders. That way nobody every gets offended and all history is erased forever lol (sarcasm).

The benefit of knowing history is to not repeat the parts that have a negative effect. Once you remove it, it will surely happen again.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I find it extremely hypocritical that one group is demanding the removal of some statues that represent an era and history of this country while forcing their race demands down everyone's throats.

Police not executing black men anymore is a “forced race demand?” Please be specific if you mean otherwise.

That's supposed to be equality? I dont think so. Its hypocrisy at its finest.

The bare minimum standard of the state not executing its citizens should be a universal concept. Please enlighten us which hypocrisy you speak of

How about we take ALL statues down.......including the black leaders. That way nobody every gets offended and all history is erased forever lol (sarcasm).

Pathetic. You want to equivocate Martin Luther King to confederate generals. Can’t make this up, folks.

The benefit of knowing history is to not repeat the parts that have a negative effect. Once you remove it, it will surely happen again.

Nice try. Those statues can go in a museum. They don’t have any business outside in public spaces.

 

[Glassguy]

Police not executing black men anymore is a “forced race demand?” Please be specific if you mean otherwise.



The bare minimum standard of the state not executing its citizens should be a universal concept. Please enlighten us which hypocrisy you speak of



Pathetic. You want to equivocate Martin Luther King to confederate generals. Can’t make this up, folks.



Nice try. Those statues can go in a museum. They don’t have any business outside in public spaces.

You still havent answered questions from days ago. Any further comments from you are null and void.

And my post was very clear. It's not my responsibility to dumb it down to you're level of understanding.

 

[Glassguy]

And @EyeBRollin, you're a racist.

 

[Roober]

I will start by saying that their are some issues against blacks, however, what I believe to be the most important topics are hardly even broached, if even at all. And there certainly aren't current policies that specifically target blacks. There are policies which may be used unevenly against blacks, but I have yet to see a policy which has that language in it. I do know companies with actual policies who give blacks preferential treatment though...

So then, we should ask... Why are some fair policies disproportionately affecting blacks?

Hmm... If any place should understand this concept better, it should be SS. Look at women, half of the world's population. There are certain undeniable patterns in their behavior. There are also certain ways they act which occur with almost perfection.

So is there anything biologically about blacks that cause them to act a certain way? I would say no, but the IQ debate is interesting. But let's leave it at No...

Okay, so maybe they are victims of their environment and the media?

Here are common patterns of behavior, which everyone of ignores, and this is not comprehensive by any means...
-blacks commit more crime per capita, with or without police, especially homicides
-blacks are disproportionately represented in jails/prisons which suggests they commit more crime
-75% of blacks are raised by single moms (which I believe to be the biggest issue)
-black immigrants do farrrr better than blacks born in the US

And then we can look at the media. Blacks are predominantly shown as criminals and thugs. Even when blacks have good shows, they still don't tend to show the family unit.

And then you can look at general behaviors of blacks. People will form opinions based on patterns of behavior they witness. I'm not going to speculate on which behaviors could be attributed to each race.

And lastly, you have the police whom have watched the media, know the facts about black crime because it is part of their life, seen blacks in their community. Often times, they are acting based on patterns of behavior.

BLM is not trying to fix the patterns of behavior OR the proper training in restraints. BLM is also not trying to dismantle unions which protected Derek Chauvin and others whom exhibit horrible patterns of behavior. What BLM seeks to do is remove funding from an already underfunded public service and spend in areas which will likely increase costs (and taxes). By the time someone interacts with the police, it's too late. We should be seeking to reduce the amount of encounters blacks have with the law,

Think about the patterns we witness with single moms and their dating or lifestyle. Do we know they are generally not good because we identify them as a single mom, or do we recognize everything that must have led up to that? This being a poor family dynamic, questionable value system, and me first attitude.

Until BLM starts to look at patterns of behavior and actually fixing the black community, I will see it as nothing more than a political coup to take down the United States. They are a leaderless movement seeking power, nothing more...

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