George Floyd Riots: A Possible False Flag?

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

As opposed to killing him and fanning the flames faster in the most challenging social period in modern American history. This keeps happening over and over again, the police refuse to learn a better way and we will all end up being worse off for it the more it all falls apart.

Police have agency. They have training. They have legal protections (for now). It's on them to make the better decisions. Take the guy's keys and let him sleep it off and we all go home with our jobs and our lives tonight. Let him run and we arrest him with more manpower and planned on our own terms. These guys need to think and not just react.

Or............

***THE MEDIA CAN STOP PROMOTING THIS BULLSHIT NARRATIVE***

Honestly people, the problem isn’t what the cops do, it’s the media misrepresenting what the cops do. They cherry pick one aspect of a situation to make them seem like they’re doing something wrong. Why? Wtf are they doing? Why are they purposefully trying to incite uproar and outrage across the country? Jesus...

Malcolm X was right:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1271520786499735552

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

You're talking abt a future that didn't happened and making urself get all rile up over nothing.

Why don't I add something like the car engine could have exploded and kill everyone in Wendy's? That too is a possible future.

How about a plane falling off the sky and hitting your home?

Deal with a specific situation so that those possible future/s doesn't occur or the likelihood of it happening greatly decreases.

Jesus Spaz, the dude LITERALLY fell asleep at the wheel he was so drunk, he was about to kill someone. Those aren’t even remotely close comparisons you’re making because the probability of them happening are very low and there is no possible way to avoid them, whereas it’s DEFINITELY possible for a man to not resist arrest, fight with some cops, steal one of their tasers, and running away while firing it at one of them. That is solely the fault of the criminal here, it’s not some random quantum occurrence that just happens at random, these aren’t simply random what-if’s.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I'm no lawyer. I saw a woman on TV saying resisting arrest, and firing a taser at a police officer, were both misdemeanors. I have no idea if she was right. Perhaps stealing a weapon from an officer is a felony, and assaulting an officer is a felony, maybe that's the distinction.

Using a weapon of any sort raises it to aggravated assault, which is a felony.

 

[Spaz]

Jesus Spaz, the dude LITERALLY fell asleep at the wheel he was so drunk, he was about to kill someone. Those aren’t even remotely close comparisons you’re making because the probability of them happening are very low and there is no possible way to avoid them, whereas it’s DEFINITELY possible for a man to not resist arrest, fight with some cops, steal one of their tasers, and running away while firing it at one of them. That is solely the fault of the criminal here, it’s not some random quantum occurrence that just happens at random, these aren’t simply random what-if’s.

U r looking at the trees and as you grow older, experienced more, travelled, climbed the social ladder, made ur mark in the corporate world, you'll have a helicopter view of things and those trees are not the only thing you see.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

U r looking at the trees and as you grow older, experienced more, travelled, climbed the social ladder, made ur mark in the corporate world, you'll have a helicopter view of things and those trees are not the only thing you see.

I should be the one giving you that analogy lol you couldn’t connect how the dude possibly killing someone wasn’t just a ‘what-if’ possibility and sad it as completely unrelated from the incident at hand and why the cops had to do what they did lmao

 

[Spaz]

I should be the one giving you that analogy lol you couldn’t connect how the dude possibly killing someone wasn’t just a ‘what-if’ possibility and sad it as completely unrelated from the incident at hand and why the cops had to do what they did lmao

Does anyone understands what this kid is trying to say here?

Feel free to convey it to me in adult talk.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Shooting anyone in the back as they run away is murder, even if you are a cop.

 

[zekko]

Shooting anyone in the back as they run away is murder, even if you are a cop.

The guy was shot in the back as he was turning around firing a weapon at him. So if a guy stands with his back to you and turns and fires a gun at you, and you shoot him, that's murder?

The mayor of Atlanta has called it murder. That seems irresponsible to me, for a variety of reasons. It has come out that this cop had several complaints against him, so it reinforces the idea that he was a bad cop, and I've said several times this was bad police work.

But I don't think was murder, or a crime. I've heard that a policeman cannot be convicted for shooting someone if that suspect was fleeing after committing a violent crime. He had just assaulted two police officers. But I'm sure people will say it's not violence because it was only against cops. That doesn't mean he won't be convicted though, because the justice system is thoroughly screwy. And disclaimer because I am not a lawyer. Welcome back, by the way.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Does anyone understands what this kid is trying to say here?

Feel free to convey it to me in adult talk.

I’m responding to you exactly as you responded to me. Spaz man, your posts have really gone down the ****ter in the past 2 years or so. Work on your social skills.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

It's the perpetrator's fault he drove drunk, took the taser and fled;

It's the cop's fault he drew his weapon and discharged it.

Whether the perp was putting anyone in immediate danger will be up to others to decide, but a man can't lay his decision at the feet of another.

Let’s be honest here; he wasn’t reaching for the taser, he was reaching for the gun. He just happened to grab the taser instead bc he thought it was a gun. That dude had intent to kill.

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As an aside, I have to ask you all something. In all of these videos that have come out the last 5+ years or so about cops hurting black people, have any of you noticed that they always resisted arrest? Every video I’ve ever seen where a cop is supposedly harming a black person, I see that same black person resisting arrest. Why? I haven’t seen one person where they weren’t. They’ll sometimes resist by making it look like they don’t have the flexibility to put their arms behind their back, but that’s just bs because who tf doesn’t have that flexibility to put their hands back? Tf? Is it something inherent in black people to do that? Or is it learned/taught behavior? I know that the MAO-A gene is more prevalent in blacks than other races which would make sense to explain a genetic cause for being violent, but it doesn’t explain fatherless homes or their lower income levels despite having affirmative action, nor their proclivity for dealing and using certain drugs.

 

[Bible_Belt]

The guy was shot in the back as he was turning around firing a weapon at him. So if a guy stands with his back to you and turns and fires a gun at you, and you shoot him, that's murder?

Normally the cops get to blow you away for pointing a stick at them. Sometimes they kill people for answering the door with a remote control in their hand or an xbox controller. And thanks to police unions, they get away with it. But this time, they can't claim that they thought the taser was a lethal weapon, because it was their taser, and he had just stolen it from them. And watch the video, they shoot him in the back after he has fired the taser harmlessly over their heads, and then turned to continue running. That cop was angry he just got his ass kicked in a 2 on 1 fight and had his stuff stolen, so he killed the guy at the first very flimsy excuse that presented itself.

I don't think any murder charge is going to stick in the george floyd case, that was manslaughter at the most. But this was clearly murder.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Will you also enlighten us on the policeman's intent?

To arrest an intoxicated criminal. Who fought against him and his partner. Who stole his weaponry. Who intended to use it against them.

That man got what he got. If they were regular people who were just telling him from a moral standpoint not to be so drunk that he passes out while driving, he would’ve spit in their faces. If regular people tried to move him or his car, he would have physically fought them with a “fuck outta my face nigga, don’t you ever in yo life come up on me like that” type of attitude where he doesn’t care if he’s breaking the law and just does whatever he wants because he’s pissed about slavery keeping him down and being brought here against his will even though his grandma was likely never a slave and he would much prefer to be here in the United States than in Africa.



^^^^this was Muhammad Ali after a reporter asked him how his trip to Africa was after he came back to the US.

 

[zekko]

I don't think any murder charge is going to stick in the george floyd case, that was manslaughter at the most. But this was clearly murder.

That's the first time I've heard anyone suggest the Brooks incident was more flagrant than the Floyd case. In the latter, Floyd continued to say he couldn't breathe and that they were killing him while Chauvin continued to kneel on his neck. It was almost like he was serving as his own witness. But Chauvin was more interested in being obstinate than any sort of harm that he was doing, and the guy almost singlehandedly destroyed the country.

In the second case, I don't think the cop should have shot him. But we're still playing under the current rules, and I don't think under those rules he was committing a crime. We as a society are in the process of changing those rules, and the vast majority are in favor of that. But it's not fair to this cop to say "Sorry, this is going to be a crime in five years so we're locking you up".

The only thing that concerns me is this: These two guys couldn't physically handle this guy, not even with tasers. They didn't find this out until the went to cuff him. How are they supposed to arrest him? There was a lady on CNN saying that if black people don't resist arrest, the police will kill them - every time. Why shouldn't every person who is arrested fight the police?

 

[Bible_Belt]

Really? A N Y O N E?

If a Colorado cop had shot Ted Bundy in the back, as he was running away, after breaking out of jail, would that cop have been guilty of "murder"?

Are you sure about that, counselor?

Prisoners have been stripped of their constitutional rights by the court already, so it is a poor comparison.

If you kill someone everyone hates, like a cop killer or child molester, you often won't be charged with murder, regardless of how you do it. That is prosecutorial discretion. There is also a much more rare and controversial doctrine known as jury nullification, where the jury just refuses to convict the defendant. They have that right, but judges really hate it and won't allow it into jury instructions. They threaten attorneys with contempt of court charges if they mention jury nullification to the jury.

 

[Bible_Belt]

You would still consider it murder, though?

Unless ole ted has a knife in his hand and a victim in his sights, then yes it is murder to shoot him in the back. The right of self defense is transferrable, but you have to have someone from whom it will transfer.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Unless ole ted has a knife in his hand and a victim in his sights, then yes it is murder to shoot him in the back. The right of self defense is transferrable, but you have to have someone from whom it will transfer.

So if I rob a bank and the police come storming in, I can just turn my back to them and ran backwards and they technically aren’t allowed to do anything to me?

Sweet.

 

[Bible_Belt]

That's the first time I've heard anyone suggest the Brooks incident was more flagrant than the Floyd case.

I am only speaking in terms of the law, and not morals. Law school beats the morals out of you, in an academic sense.

The murder charge against chauvin is ridiculous. To murder someone, you have to try to kill them. They are going to have to convince the jury that he was trying to kill George floyd, in front of all those cameras. If he didn't intend to kill him, he committed manslaughter. It is a different crime. The manner in which his charges were upgraded just because everyone hates him only serves to benefit the guy by helping him beat the case.

 

[Bible_Belt]

So if I rob a bank and the police come storming in, I can just turn my back to them and ran backwards and they technically aren’t allowed to do anything to me?

Sweet.

You'll want to raise your hands in the air, too. They'll probably still shoot you, but the hands in the air will help your relatives get some money later from your wrongful death lawsuit.

 

[EyeBRollin]

It is a shame seeing so many people defend police shooting a fleeing suspect in the back. It’s an obvious murder. Suspect was confirmed to be unarmed (patted down) at the time of encounter and they had all his personal information. Not only that, murderers partner had already radioed for backup while in pursuit.

if you think cops should be allowed to murder because they suck at their jobs, you are part of the problem. He shot this guy because his ego was hurt.

 

[Mike41090]

It is a shame seeing so many people defend police shooting a fleeing suspect in the back. It’s an obvious murder. Suspect was confirmed to be unarmed (patted down) at the time of encounter and they had all his personal information. Not only that, murderers partner had already radioed for backup while in pursuit.

if you think cops should be allowed to murder because they suck at their jobs, you are part of the problem. He shot this guy because his ego was hurt.

It’s not murder because he pointed a taser at them while fleeing. A lot of people on this forum seem to not mention the fact he was running away BUT also pointed a taser at them. That is considered a threat in my book. The only unknown I’ve been very curious about Is how many projectile cartridges where in the taser. Most tasers have 1 on the reload. Brooks wasn’t simply running away. He made himself a threat by POINTING a taser at cops. You can easily argue your life was in danger. 100 percent not murder in my opinion. Murder would of been if they simply shot him for NO reason whatsoever with no threat present. There was a THREAT present in this. Everyone here keeps saying he was simply running away, smh, if your gonna day that YOU have to mention he pointed the taser at cops because that is the meat and potatoes of this cop shooting in my opinion: how lethal could of that taser been? It could of easily incapacitated the officer, and based on Brooks’ behavior, wouldn’t be shocked if he took the downed cops firearm after that. Murder is ludicrous in my opinion. Maybe manslaughter but I think that’s even a stretch.