What about George Wallace? You'd vote for him for president right?Never in my life have I seen any 1 man hated so much, ever!
What about George Wallace? You'd vote for him for president right?Never in my life have I seen any 1 man hated so much, ever!
Either a white lunatic or an Arab/Muslim so that we have an excuse to start another war in the Middle East again. That’s my bet.I will say this, though: if there is a successful assassination, it'll be by a cuttout the Establishment wants to go after, either foreign or domestic. NK or a "betrayed America-Firster"?
If that did happen, I wonder if the media would even try to hide their glee, or if they would just openly declare the guy a hero.Whoever he is will have been carefully selected and groomed for their purposes.
100%! Just about every major event in the world is man made to get some kind of benefit or reaction. It's taken me years to be where I'm at today. I still dont even know a fraction of what some of these masters are at uncovering chit using gematria. One simple thing a person can do is be opened minded to believe to possible truths to one story, then start picking them apart. That's the problem today is most can't think for themselves cause we've all been conditioned that way which is intentional, by design. So the first thing they hear on the news is what they firmly believe. There isn't anything you can do to get them to be open minded in that what they believe might be false. Never in history has ones cognitive dissonance been constantly tested the way it has now that social media can make just about anyone a reporter of news to fit their narrative.So your assertion is that most of the big "shyt" that pops off that grabs huge attention is manipulated. Diverting attention from COVID to FLOYD accelerated the recovery in the stock market by 3000 pts in a short period of time.
That sounds about right. Not too distasteful, but getting in their digs too.I'm not a fan of Trump at all, but I could see the media framing it as "did Trump sow the seeds of his own doom?"
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@logicallefty ? What’s your opinion?I know we have a few posters here in law enforcement, I'm surprised none of them have spoken up.
I don't know, I thought we had a few, maybe I'm mistaken. Maybe someone who formerly worked in law enforcement?zekko, who else is law enforcement on here?
@Bible_Belt was a lawyer, I know that much. @FMCSMT knows a heck of a lot too, pretty sure he’s also one. bradd80 as well, before he intentionally banned himself and had all of his posts deleted RIP. I wish they hadn’t done that tho, a lot of his posts were really some all-time bests, now completely gone with the wind, unfortunately.I don't know, I thought we had a few, maybe I'm mistaken. Maybe someone who formerly worked in law enforcement?
Apparently he’s banned, but I’m not sure for how long. I loved his posts cuz they were always witty and funny. Thisbisnt the first time he was banned so it may be permanent, but I’m hoping it’s not RIPWhat happened to Bible_Belt? Did he finally realize he was wrong about everything, and self-destruct?
Only because he’s a democrat lol but other than that his posts were always very funny imoI thought he was an idiot...but I didn't read many of his posts.
I've been saying all along I was concerned about another incident happening, because it will happen, we can't avoid it, as much as we would like to. I just didn't expect it so soon. So far the reaction has been fairly muted, even though they burned down the Wendys. Maybe that's because this wasn't such an overt case as it was with George Floyd. Maybe it's because the recent protests served as a catharsis. OR it may blow up into WWIII, who knows? I hope not.A Black buddy of mine called me to tell me about that, and I cut him off, and just said I was all out of give a fuucks. Didn't even want to hear any more about it. I don't care. The riots took my last give a fuuck.
Same.A Black buddy of mine called me to tell me about that, and I cut him off, and just said I was all out of give-a-fuucks. Didn't even want to hear any more about it. I don't care. The riots took my last give-a-fuuck.
Nah I mean the dude shouldn’t have been so drunk to the point where he fell asleep while driving, like wtf? And then try to get the cops tasers? lmao he deserves to be locked up for driving while being that drunk alone, but resisting arrest to where he’s fighting the cops, steals one of their weapons, and tries to use it against them?So now we have this new case in Atlanta with Rayshard Brooks being killed by the police. I almost don't want to discuss this because we haven't seen how it's going to shake out. The George Floyd case was much more clear, this is at least a little more muddled. As I understand it: Brooks was asleep in his car in the Wendy's drive thru lane. The police were called, they arrived and gave him a sobriety test, which he failed. When they tried to arrest him, he resisted and tussled with them, got one of the officers tasers, and ran off. The cops chased him on foot, and Brooks tried to shoot the taser at the cops, at which point he was shot.
Obviously this is not going to stand up as a model of excellent police work. But is this murder? I believe the Atlanta police are characterizing it as "unjustified force". The protesters are wanting the police arrested, and they burned down the Wendys. This is a good example of how there needs to be new approach and mentality to police work. But are the cops going to be held up as murderers? We'll see what happens.
The thing that concerns me is if they end up arresting the officers involved, what kind of message does this send? That if you get arrested, resist arrest, fight the police, try to get one of their weapons, and try to get away? I heard a suggestion that the police should not have been called for this guy sleeping in the Wendys drive thru. I don't know, I know several people who have lost children to drunk drivers, from toddlers to high school students, so I'm leery of the suggestion of letting this guy off the hook.
The way I see it en regards to the Atlanta incident (they just released video footage btw). If I’m a cop and someone steals my taser after I try to place them under arrest and THEN points that taser at me. As a cop I believe lethal force is necessary. ONLY because if the criminal successfully tasers me as a cop, he can easily take my firearm and kill me, plain and simple. As a cop I think it’s fairly easy to articulate using lethal force on someone who points a taser at you in my opinion, especially since the officers in the Atlanta incident already unsuccessfully tried to taser him 3x before the lethal shots I believe.I Would be open to hear what others have to think though in regards to them agreeing or disagreeing with how it went down. Cop should have never let them get a hold of that taser under any circumstances, bad tactics. But then again, I was not there, so I truly do not have a clue.Same.
Nah I mean the dude shouldn’t have been so drunk to the point where he fell asleep while driving, like wtf? And then try to get the cops tasers? lmao he deserves to be locked up for driving while being that drunk alone, but resisting arrest to where he’s fighting the cops, steals one of their weapons, and tries to use it against them?
He deserves the death penalty. And he got it.
The thing that irritates me the most isn’t even the rule-breaking aspect. It's the fact that you break the rules and have the audacity to get angry at those who catch you and call you out on it. My dad has a store and he’s worked here in Chicago for nearly 30 years, he built himself up from the ground up and worked really hard, pulling triple-digit hours each week for years sometimes, and he didn’t even know the language here. Worked hard af, harder than anyone I’ve ever known (except maybe his dad, MAYBE). He told me how he noticed that while certain ethnic groups will steal (gypsies, Hispanics, blacks, trashy whites, etc. ), he said that when you confront any of them, they’ll at least feel shame and be embarrassed and apologize and walk away (or pay for it, depending). But if you do that to black people, they’ll get angry at you and want to fight you. I noticed this too myself, that blacks in the US (and the UK too) tend to lash out when under confrontation and/or if you embarrass them or try to make them feel shame. I’m just annoyed by the whole thing tbh. No one wants to talk about it. The fact of the matter is, Black America isn’t doing well with cops or in life in general because they’ve adopted ‘Thug Culture’ as apart of Black Culture. You can only blame white people so much, but at some point you have to take a look in the mirror and realize what’s the common denominator. Most of the problems in the black community is self-inflicted, and that’s the honest-to-God truth.
That's a valid point, this seems like an entirely different situation than the George Floyd case. The mayor said it was unjustified, and has fired the cop. I don't have a problem with that. If they try to bring the cop up on murder charges, that doesn't seem right to me. Manslaughter maybe. But he made a split second judgement call - the wrong judgement call, IMO. But I don't see how he premeditated to kill him. If he gets convicted of murder, that seems like politics to me. But I'm no lawyer, so take that with however many grains of salt you want.As a cop I believe lethal force is necessary. ONLY because if the criminal successfully tasers me as a cop, he can easily take my firearm and kill me, plain and simple.
I think the guy was a threat to the cop considering he pointed a taser at him. And btw all cops (including the ones on scene) have body cameras that NEED to be turned on when a person is a about to be arrested. If they simply let him go when they are trying to put him into handcuffs, this cops will be suspended shortly after for an escaped prisoner with one of thier tasers. They would of never been put on the streets again after a guy stole thier taser. Not saying the route they took is the right one, but there is just so many variables going through a cops head when shot goes from 0 to 100 that quick. It blows my mind though that people are trying to criminalize these cops. Brooks put himself in this situation. It is 100 percent his fault in my opinion, but maybe it’s because I’m pro cop and kinda always lean towards that side. I usually try and live by facts and putting myself in other people shoes but it’s impossible.That's a valid point, this seems like an entirely different situation than the George Floyd case. The mayor said it was unjustified, and has fired the cop. I don't have a problem with that. If they try to bring the cop up on murder charges, that doesn't seem right to me. Manslaughter maybe. But he made a split second judgement call - the wrong judgement call, IMO. But I don't see how he premeditated to kill him. If he gets convicted of murder, that seems like politics to me. But I'm no lawyer, so take that with however many grains of salt you want.
I saw one commentator say the cops should have let him go, because he was no threat to the public, and they had his car. They could pick him up later. But he was apparently drunk (or incapacitated) driving a car, I'd say that makes him a threat to the community. I know when I was growing up, we didn't take DUIs very seriously. But like I said, I know several people whose children have been killed by drunk drivers, so I know it's a serious issue.
I'm concerned that there is going to be a message sent that if a cop stops you, fight him.
All I see in the news is Brooks and how he had some birthday party planned the next day. Give me a break. Run that guys track record, and imagine the victims of some of the things he was charged with. That’s his legacy in my opinion, not some skewed media spin on him being a complete innocent black guy. Should he of been shot? I lean towards yes, but this situation is extremely hard to judge in my opinion. It all falls on hows people view a taser in regards to its lethal ability so to speak. I think all of this could be settled as well if there was some sort of device or technique put into place that would immediately stop people from resisting arrest because that is usually when all of these problems start.I think the guy was a threat to the cop considering he pointed a taser at him. And btw all cops (including the ones on scene) have body cameras that NEED to be turned on when a person is a about to be arrested. If they simply let him go when they are trying to put him into handcuffs, this cops will be suspended shortly after for an escaped prisoner with one of thier tasers. They would of never been put on the streets again after a guy stole thier taser. Not saying the route they took is the right one, but there is just so many variables going through a cops head when shot goes from 0 to 100 that quick. It blows my mind though that people are trying to criminalize these cops. Brooks put himself in this situation. It is 100 percent his fault in my opinion, but maybe it’s because I’m pro cop and kinda always lean towards that side. I usually try and live by facts and putting myself in other people shoes but it’s impossible.
"My little boy never did nothing to nobody. He would give you the shirt off his back."All I see in the news is Brooks and how he had some birthday party planned the next day. Give me a break. Run that guys track record, and imagine the victims of some of the things he was charged with. That’s his legacy in my opinion, not some skewed media spin on him being a complete innocent black guy. Should he of been shot? I lean towards yes, but this situation is extremely hard to judge in my opinion. It all falls on hows people view a taser in regards to its lethal ability so to speak. I think all of this could be settled as well if there was some sort of device or technique put into place that would immediately stop people from resisting arrest because that is usually when all of these problems start.
I saw some lady on TV, she was saying that resisting arrest and shooting an officer with a taser are both misdemeanors, which is interesting. But I really don't like the idea of sending a message that if you get arrested, you should fight the cop and try to grab his weapon. That seems like madness to me, I just don't see how that is okay. If they prosecute this cop for murder, in a very public way, it's going to have police hesitating to use their guns. And maybe that's a good thing in one respect. But it might also cost some their lives, and we know the news agencies aren't going to care when a cop gets killed. This incident is much more complicated than the George Floyd one.It all falls on hows people view a taser in regards to its lethal ability so to speak. I think all of this could be settled as well if there was some sort of device or technique put into place that would immediately stop people from resisting arrest because that is usually when all of these problems start.
Google doesn't show his criminal record, where did you see it?All I see in the news is Brooks and how he had some birthday party planned the next day. Give me a break. Run that guys track record, and imagine the victims of some of the things he was charged with. That’s his legacy in my opinion, not some skewed media spin on him being a complete innocent black guy. Should he of been shot? I lean towards yes, but this situation is extremely hard to judge in my opinion. It all falls on hows people view a taser in regards to its lethal ability so to speak. I think all of this could be settled as well if there was some sort of device or technique put into place that would immediately stop people from resisting arrest because that is usually when all of these problems start.