George Floyd Riots: A Possible False Flag?

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All the police had to do is tell the white protesters to disburse and then they could technically arrest them all because they violated their order and then they could have been charged for disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, etc.
The lockdown protests were peaceful, they weren't killing people, looting or burning buildings to the ground. The authorities initially dealt with BOTH of these protests with a "hands off" approach. In the most recent protests however, they quickly turned violent. If they hadn't stepped in after a few nights, there likely would be nothing left of some of our cities. That's the difference.

By the way, why do the protesters keep chanting "No justice, no peace"? How does that go along with the idea that the protests are peaceful?

It really isn't that mysterious: the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, and Identity Politics needs racial division and poverty to grow, not shrink, in order to continue to exist as an institution.
It's very clear that there are people with agendas who have a vested interest in making sure black people think of themselves as victims, and continue to do so.

I don't believe in ancestral guilt, but even if I did, 75% of my ancestors arrived after the Civil War
I thought I made clear I wasn't talking about ancestral guilt, I don't believe in it either. I'm saying that slavery made a mess that we are still trying to clean up, apparently without much success.

One term I'm not fond of is "Systemic Racism", because racism is a trigger word, and promotes knee jerk reactions. The term makes it sound like people are deliberately setting up systems to hold people back because of the color of their skin. What it means is there are certain habits in place that promote minorities remaining in poverty or urban squalor. Or why there aren't more black coaches in the NFL. It's not because of any rules or laws, it's a habit of the system. Those habits can be overcome, but it's a very complicated situation. Oversimplifying it by saying "The US is racist" is doing everyone a great disservice and isn't going to solve anything.
 
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It was only 60 years ago that many black people were still not allowed to eat at the same restaurants as whites.
De facto racism would mean that a white person can call 911 on a black person that they feel doesn't belong there and has "invaded" a white space. Black people are worried about walking in white neighbourhoods because someone can call the police on them and they may get a bad cop that might rough them up or worst. There has been many instances from Waffle House where a store owner called the police on a black patron that inquired as to why they were being charged for plastic spoons. There were a number of stories that circulated 2 years ago.



Then you had the story from Starbucks where two black people were arrested for sitting down in that location:


There is yet another story of a white patron of a restaurant telling the owner that he does not feel comfortable with the blacks being there and all the blacks, who reserved for a party earlier, were told to leave:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHa4d6X1Syo

These are just some examples. Yes, this is a different time and era so people can sue for discrimination and put the story out there on both traditional cable media and social media and action can be taken. But then again, what quality of freedom is that if you don't feel welcome, or are under the threat someone can call the police on you and end up with trumped up charges after a bad interaction?

Even if you could sue a restaurant or go to the media afterwards, how would you feel about going to restaurants, if you were legally allowed to go in, but had any outcome like any of these people above? Not everyone has the energy and even time/money to pursue things like this so it has a chilling effect.
 

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The lockdown protests were peaceful, they weren't killing people, looting or burning buildings to the ground.
Like it or not but peaceful protests do not get proper media coverage. What gets media coverage is sensationalism, and therefore looting, burning of buildings and violence is necessary to get that type of coverage otherwise it would just be covered for one or two days and that would be the end of it and everything is swept under a rug. You have to blame the corporate media and the way it covers the news and you need to have news that sells that people would like. There has to be sensationalism for that to work. There is now a chance of real change because of the extensive media coverage.
 
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Like it or not but peaceful protests do not get proper media coverage. What gets media coverage is sensationalism, and therefore looting, burning of buildings and violence is necessary to get that type of coverage otherwise it would just be covered for one or two days and that would be the end of it and everything is swept under a rug. You have to blame the corporate media and the way it covers the news and you need to have news that sells that people would like. There has to be sensationalism for that to work. There is now a chance of real change because of the extensive media coverage.
That is at least an honest answer, so I appreciate that. I still don't think violence should be tolerated, but I understand the underlying emotions, and the idea that you have to offend to get attention. It's like kneeling during the national anthem at football games. They say it has nothing to do with the flag, but then they say that the act has to be offensive to get attention, because otherwise we won't listen. Again, I don't agree with it, but I understand it.

In any case, I have no problem with police reform. To some extent I think we're kidding ourselves if we think we can make the police some agency that never uses violence. It would be like trying to make the Marines non-violent. It's the nature of the job. But we can always try to make things better.

Defunding the police, the more I think about it, sounds like madness. One reason police resort to violence is that they are understaffed and overworked. If you let police go out with partners again, they would hopefully have a better chance at resolving things without using deadly force. To that end, the police need more funds, not less. Using alternative neighborhood unarmed neighborhood programs could be useful in certain situations, so I'm cool with that. If you want to have encourage less contact with the police in urban areas, then the LAWS need to be changed, like @samspade was talking about, where victimless crimes like drug use, would be decriminalized. Leave the police to concentrate on higher priority matters. But that's not the choice of the police, the police just do what they're told. That change needs to come from lawmakers.
 

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The corruption and police brutality statistics in America and George Floyd's death, the FBI warning about white supremacist groups infiltrating the police forces across the country, Trump ordering people to be maimed with rubber bullets and tear gas so he can do a photo op, and agent provocateurs going undercover to destroy property and incite violence, those four things are all troublesome.

But the large mobs of violent looters, mostly comprised of ethnic minorities, who go around to commit crime and thus both reinforce negative stereotypes against themselves and do so in the very hour that others are trying to protest for ethnic minorities? This phenomena is what induces me to despondence like none of the other things do. It makes you want to just give up. It's just so ugly, vile and stupid. This is the real nature of these people, this is humanity?.... sigh....
 
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A computer programmer shows Obama's site photo code to be static not dynamic so the date is "apparently" accurate. I stated in the covid thread that the timing of this was obviously planned to take eyes off ObamaGate. Everything the Deep State does is strategically planned and timed.
 

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Like it or not but peaceful protests do not get proper media coverage. What gets media coverage is sensationalism, and therefore looting, burning of buildings and violence is necessary to get that type of coverage otherwise it would just be covered for one or two days and that would be the end of it and everything is swept under a rug.
To be fair, anti-lockdown protests absolutely worked. They got state governments moving towards opening up. They got media coverage with dumb signs about wanting a haircut. And guns. The guns really got attention. Same side of a different coin I guess. The threat of violence vs actual violence.
 

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There's a police brutality problem, no doubt, but it isn't just a Black problem, like the race-obsessed identity politics crowd wants everyone to believe.
If your beef is with police brutality of White men I suggest you piggyback on these protests, it would probably serve that cause better. You're right, White guys killed by police don't get attention, most people with a microphone probably figure the dumb hillbillies deserve it. A little solidarity might go a long way, you might find there is a lot in common.
 

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If the US is as racist as everyone says, why are so many people of all races out protesting with them? Everyone was disgusted by the George Floyd video, no one approved of it.

By the way, Blacks are 13% of the US population, and the same element you see on your telly rioting and looting are responsible for 50+% of violent crime, according to Obama-era FBI statistics; according to the same statistics, approximately one unarmed Black man is killed by police every month, in America. If you listened to BLM and the gaslight media, you'd believe that unarmed Black men accounted for 100% of US police kills. However, two unarmed White men are killed by police every month in America. There's a police brutality problem, no doubt, but it isn't just a Black problem, like the race-obsessed identity politics crowd wants everyone to believe.
I've seen and heard rich black athletes crying uncontrollably on TV and radio, because they think they are going to be pulled over in traffic and murdered by the police. But as you note, the statistics don't support this idea that police are murdering black people because of the color of their skin. But the media only highlights the white on black killings, so they appear more common than they are. There are groups who benefit greatly from black people feeling oppressed, and they want to make sure they stay feeling that way.

That said, I have no doubt black people have different experiences with the police than others, or might be treated differently in the courts. There's too much smoke here to be no fire. In fact, poor people in general are treated badly by the courts. And police reforms might be beneficial to everyone. It sounds like the way the system is set up now, there are too many bad cops that are kept on.

Another point is the US imprisons a higher percentage of its population than any other country. That seems like a good idea to seriously look at which crimes we really want to be punishing (and policing for), and which we don't.
 

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There's still five months to go and if Trump loses in November it's his own fault, no one else's. He still has an opportunity to show leadership. It is his choice. Of course his opposition wants to defeat him. That's politics, the profession he chose.
He’s gonna win and i strongly believe it as much as i did the first time he won . Personally i believe that’s the beginning of a Trump dynasty. He’s gonna go with a 2nd term even maybe with a 3rd term if the new law he’s preparing get passed . After him Ivanka is gonna be the next President of the US .
 

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You miss my point, and I'm not going to add to the mob, to provide even more cover for criminal activity.

M O S T people mistreated by police(Black, White, or other) were behaving in extremely stupid, self-destructive ways, and didn't need any help fuucking up or ending their own lives; the police just happened to be handy. 99.99% of the time, people having bad experiences with cops are acting like asssholes. People act like asssholes to cops for the same reasons that troubled kids act like asssholes to school teachers...because they know they can get away with it, because cops and school teachers are rule enforcers, and rule enforcers tend to be rule abiders, and have strict rules governing their own behavior. Every once in a while they both snap, though. So, troubled people fuuck with the cops and school teachers, because they think it's safe(NOT dangerous) to do so....the same reason children at the zoo might taunt a caged lion.

Let me ask any of you who might get off on giving the cops a ration of cr@p, anytime you're pulled over for speeding(or whatever): if a large, muscular, heavily armed man stopped you in a dark alley, and told you to hand him your wallet, would you instantly start talking shiit about his mother, or speculate about who might be fuucking his wife, while he was busy holding you up, or suggest that he was only robbing you to compensate for his inadequate endowments? You probably wouldn't do that...unless you were stupid or suicidal...because, for all you know, he only wants your wallet, but might be emotionally unstable, or could've just had a really bad day, and might go psycho on you, if you don't remain perfectly calm. That's how I know Black people don't really believe that cops are out roaming the streets, just looking for innocent Black people to kill; if they were, they'd have to suck at it, since the hundreds of thousands of US cops only succeed in killing one unarmed Black man per month...half as many as the unarmed White men they kill. These "killers" gotta get their numbers up, because those numbers are pathetic...for an army of killers.

Anyway, why don't parents try coaching their kids on the proper way to interact with the police, to avoid become a statistic? This hysteria will only result in more tragedy, and already has. Telling your kids that cops are White Supremacist killers, that Black cops are "Uncle Toms" and "Coons," and that a random police stop is guaranteed to end in the death of any unfortunate Black detainee is just setting the recipient of such counsel up for a really bad time. "If you're ever stopped by the police, honey, you make sure to cause a big scene, to attract a lot of attention, and a lot of witnesses, because if no-one is looking, and they get hold of ya, they'll murder ya, boy, sure as you're living!!!!" Any parent telling that cr@p to their kids....deserves to be shot.
This stat says 1,009 kills in 2019 24% black https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/
 

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Okay wow I thought this thread died cuz I stopped getting notifications on it a long time ago but apparently it’s been popping off lol

Germans couldn't live with Jews
Irish Catholics couldn't live with Protestants
Indian Hindus couldn't live with Muslims
Jews couldn't live with Palestinians
Scots couldn't live with the English
Americas problem is a black/white one
- Jews did destroy/ruin huge parts of Germany objectively-speaking from pre and post-WWI
- Because Protestants broke away from the main church, meaning that the church effectively lost power which they dislike; it’d be like a country splitting and/or seceding
- Due to problems Britain intentionally created since they could control the Hindus and not the Muslims
- Jews literally started that whole conflict, it’s not even deniable
- Because England is being a POS to the other provinces cuz “I’m Bri ‘ish” lol
- No it’s not, it’s just made to seem that way to distract us from what’s really going on
 

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Anyone else notice how many women are out there protesting? I think in a lot of footage, I see more young white females protesting than any other group.
That’s that ***** privilege lol women are less likely to get attacked simply bc they’re women. But if they get smacked at all, they’re done. They go right back to being super feminine and docile again. At least till they feel vindicated, after which they’ll just get worse lol but yeah. Have any of you ever noticed that women cannot handle high-stress and chaotic situations like that? If things get violent, they can’t handle it and just break down, start panicking, and make the situation worse for themselves and for everyone. *Cue banshee scream*

Women aren’t cut out for chaos if you ask me lol
 

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Normally I’d say no, but I got word that there might possibly be something actually. There’s gonna be some sort of armed conflict going on involving the US before the end of the year, but I’m not sure if it’ll be a civil war-esque thing or one with China. China’s gonna start brutalizing people soon, I know that much. There’s also the possibility of someone making an attempt on POTUS’s life too, most likely a white guy for whatever reason. Just some things to think about.
The Pope is *actually* a free mason. I know this for a fact because a free mason told me this lol. Makes sense though because he’s a Jesuit isn’t he? Basically the freemason sect of Christianity.
 

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Normally I’d say no, but I got word that there might possibly be something actually. There’s gonna be some sort of armed conflict going on involving the US before the end of the year, but I’m not sure if it’ll be a civil war-esque thing or one with China. China’s gonna start brutalizing people soon, I know that much. There’s also the possibility of someone making an attempt on POTUS’s life too, most likely a white guy for whatever reason. Just some things to think about.

The Pope is *actually* a free mason. I know this for a fact because a free mason told me this lol. Makes sense though because he’s a Jesuit isn’t he? Basically the freemason sect of Christianity.
We haven't seen the worst of what's coming. Sadly I do feel like someone's going to attempt to take out POTUS. George Soros is one of the main guys funding the current riots and knows he must eliminate POTUS so the elite can unleash hell. We're living in times where liars are praised and truth tellers are hated.

Never in my life have I seen any 1 man hated so much, ever! All the hate stems from mind control which most my friends are under. I had to distance myself from them as a result. I might dislike someone but hate is an evil and dangerous emotion. Too see my grown a$$, well educated friends constantly spread hate in person & on social media is disgusting. Some even defriending cause they voted for him. Never in my life would I have ever thought I'd witness something as pathetic as that.

It's sad to see that type of behavior from anyone, let alone your own friends. What's pathetic is most don't even know why they hate him. They've just been brainwashed to believe the narrative the media puts out. Their narrative is not just to hate POTUS but to also spread that hate like a virus. Mind control is a scary thing, it's real, it's very effective and even scarier how hard it is to convince someone they have been fooled.

The Vatican is a bunch of FreeMason pedos. George Floyd has the free mason eagle tattooed on his chest. The incident happened right next to a free mason lodge. Some hoax's really take a trained eye to spot the clues. This one is not just obvious the whole thing is a hoax, it's too easy to spot all the clues. They interviewed the neighbors of Chauvin. Most said they never once seen him in a cop car or dressed in uniform. They all thought he was a real estate agent. If watch the video again you'll see the Asian cops badge is fake. The 1 women seen in the beginning smiling while shes recording is a crisis actress who's been seen on camera in previous incidents.

I've seen a different spin saying Floyd and Cop man worked at the same club. That club was know to traffic women from Mexico and launder fake currency. Floyd was stealing the money and used 1 of the fake bills at that store. The boss of the club had Chauvin kill Floyd for stealing. Then said bar/club was burned down during the riots as the major is in on it as she had instructed the cops to let the rioters destroy it. All the stories aside, blatantly obvious it's a hoax just from the timing of it. That's excluding all the other obvious clues


This is actually disturbing. To call it art is an utter disgrace
 

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We haven't seen the worst of what's coming. Sadly I do feel like someone's going to attempt to take out POTUS. George Soros is one of the main guys funding the current riots and knows he must eliminate POTUS so the elite can unleash hell. We're living in times where liars are praised and truth tellers are hated.

Never in my life have I seen any 1 man hated so much, ever! All the hate stems from mind control which most my friends are under. I had to distance myself from them as a result. I might dislike someone but hate is an evil and dangerous emotion. Too see my grown a$$, well educated friends constantly spread hate in person & on social media is disgusting. Some even defriending cause they voted for him. Never in my life would I have ever thought I'd witness something as pathetic as that.

It's sad to see that type of behavior from anyone, let alone your own friends. What's pathetic is most don't even know why they hate him. They've just been brainwashed to believe the narrative the media puts out. Their narrative is not just to hate POTUS but to also spread that hate like a virus. Mind control is a scary thing, it's real, it's very effective and even scarier how hard it is to convince someone they have been fooled.

The Vatican is a bunch of FreeMason pedos. George Floyd has the free mason eagle tattooed on his chest. The incident happened right next to a free mason lodge. Some hoax's really take a trained eye to spot the clues. This one is not just obvious the whole thing is a hoax, it's too easy to spot all the clues. They interviewed the neighbors of Chauvin. Most said they never once seen him in a cop car or dressed in uniform. They all thought he was a real estate agent. If watch the video again you'll see the Asian cops badge is fake. The 1 women seen in the beginning smiling while shes recording is a crisis actress who's been seen on camera in previous incidents.

I've seen a different spin saying Floyd and Cop man worked at the same club. That club was know to traffic women from Mexico and launder fake currency. Floyd was stealing the money and used 1 of the fake bills at that store. The boss of the club had Chauvin kill Floyd for stealing. Then said bar/club was burned down during the riots as the major is in on it as she had instructed the cops to let the rioters destroy it. All the stories aside, blatantly obvious it's a hoax just from the timing of it. That's excluding all the other obvious clues


This is actually disturbing. To call it art is an utter disgrace
So your assertion is that most of the big "shyt" that pops off that grabs huge attention is manipulated. Diverting attention from COVID to FLOYD accelerated the recovery in the stock market by 3000 pts in a short period of time.
 

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The Pope is *actually* a free mason. I know this for a fact because a free mason told me this lol. Makes sense though because he’s a Jesuit isn’t he? Basically the freemason sect of Christianity.
You are missing the point. The pope is an example of an outside observer. I've also raised Iran and China. They are terrible countries, but they can mock the US for trying to tell them what to do with their own citizens. The pope is the leader of a country called the Vatican. From what I understand it's another country in and of itself so he's a leader of another country.
 
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