George Floyd Riots: A Possible False Flag?

[mrgoodstuff]

I heard a theory he murdered him because he had some dirt on him. That sounds a little far fetched to me, but who knows?
This might be controversial, but I don't think he actually meant to kill him. I just think he either thought he was crying wolf when he said he was killing him, or was simply getting off on his sadistic control trip too much to care. That's just conjecture though.


That sounds like a big stretch. There appeared to be some sort of struggle in the backseat of the squad car. I suppose in theory he could have spit on them then, and said he had Corona. But like I said, it sounds like a stretch. For that to have had any chance of flying, they would have had to have put it in their reports and asked for corona testing when they got back to the station. If these guys get off, all of our houses may burn.

A rumor mentioned in jealousy behind some females. "Big Floyd" was in a porn a year ago, maybe more, the guy is actually him. Who knows the real story?

 

[zekko]

I'm starting to lose patience with these protesters. Their main message is good, but there's too much hate speech. For example, tonight in NY they were chanting "How do you spell racist? NYPD" at the police. That's a very ugly word to be painting a group of people with a large brush. I feel like someone needs to speak out in favor of the police, because they are getting it hard right now, I'm starting to feel sorry for them. Remember after 9/11 they were held up as heroes, now they're being called racists and are considered the greatest evil on the planet. It's no wonder the military doesn't want to be brought in, I wouldn't want to get involved in this mess either.

The Minneapolis city council is talking about dismantling their police department and replacing it with some sort of new radical program. Are these new workers (whatever they are) going to be driving around in vehicles painted with flowers all over them? Kudos to them if they can pull it off, but I'm skeptical.

 

[zekko]

For the conspiracy minded here, who think the protests are all part of someone's master plan, look at how the stock market has been doing well despite of all the rioting. That probably fits well with your theory.

This #Defundthepolice movement that's gaining traction probably fits in well with it too. The rich elite would probably love to abandon poor neighborhoods to violent criminals, while they live safely protected by their paid security forces.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

What if George Floyd told the cops he had Corona, so the cop who kept his knee on him did so to keep him from spitting or breathing on him purposefully? Imagine if these cops walk. Of course it'd be the cops' word that he informed them that he had corona.

I haven't seen the video, cause I just can't take it, I'll take everybody's word for it that it's bad.

Poonani Maker, it had nothing to do with this. The man who killed George Floyd worked along side him. They worked together. It is said there is some "jealousy" in play or possibly they engaged in some dirty activities together. The man who killed him had a personal reason.

 

[zekko]

Poonani Maker, it had nothing to do with this. George FLoyd and the man who killed him worked with him. They worked together. It is said there is some "jealousy" in play or possibly they engaged in some dirty activities together. The man who killed him had a personal reason.

That sounds crazy, but it's possible, considering they had some history together.

I read of the officers who were charged with aiding and abetting, one was on his third day and the other was on their fourth day. And they were being trained by Chauvin. I know at least one of them suggested turning Floyd on his side, but Chauvin told him no (I think there were five objections altogether). I bet those poor schmucks wish they had never taken that job.

 

[Kotaix]

How is calling peaceful protesters who were gas bombed and shot with rubber bullets so the president can mock the bible on live tv terrorism? All the religious leaders are against Trump including the pope and even other countries are calling out the hypocricy.

Twisting the meaning of words makes it sound like you are gasligting the world about your apartheid country. We should compare USA to South Africa rather than other cointries turning left. South Africa is a more just society now not a communist dictatorship like you people are portraying.

How about all the innocents that have been killed by the rioters and the livelihood of small business owners destroyed? These are not peaceful protests, they are violent riots. There are multiple on-the-ground reports of pallets of bricks appearing in protest locations with no construction around to justify it, and videos of people handing out those bricks to protesters. The governor of minnesota (D) and the NYPD are both saying that the riots are being staged. I also watched Chile have a good portion of their infrastructure burned down, with 10 subway stations going up in flames within 10 minutes of eachother all across a huge city, that doesn't happen "naturally", this violence is being coordinated. But go ahead and delude yourself .

There is no institutional racism in the US, there are no racist laws, there is equality before the law. If anything, there is racism because there are racial and gender quotas. Martin Luther King Jr f*cking died for the equality we have today, but it worked. He's probably rolling in his grave seeing all the violence being perpetrated in the name of social justice. Yes there are racist people in positions of power, we should get rid of them, and they should be tarred and feathered. But don't come telling me that the law is skewed, this is exactly the same thing as feminists talking about a glass cieling and the wage gap. Women have more rights than men, but feminists would have you think that they're some poor victims of the patriarchy. There is no systemic racism in this country, just blue pilled people vomiting up virtue signalling and grandstanding so they can pretend to be good people while doing nothing at all to solve the problem.

 

[corrector]

Yes there are racist people in positions of power, we should get rid of them, and they should be tarred and feathered.

I can't really argue anything with you because you put a sentence like that which throws everything off. It's why I liked your other post, is because you wrote that one sentence. This one sentence also invalidates your other paragraphs of words and logically defeats everything you are trying to say.

You can't say there is no systemic racism and then say there are racists in position in power who are in charge of making and enforcing the law at the same time!

 

[zekko]

You can't say there is no systemic racism and then say there are racists in position in power who are in charge of making and enforcing the law at the same time!

You can't broadbrush everyone because of a few bad apples. But I think there is systemic racism. By that I don't mean that there are people actively working to make it that way - not many, anyway. It's just the way things have "evolved". A lot of people have worked very hard to purge those elements from the system, but it's a very complicated problem, with many variables. I'm not sure there's anyone to blame exactly - although people with agendas are always looking to point a finger. Progress has been made, but there's still work to be done. We're still paying for the sin of slavery.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

How about all the innocents that have been killed by the rioters and the livelihood of small business owners destroyed? These are not peaceful protests, they are violent riots. There are multiple on-the-ground reports of pallets of bricks appearing in protest locations with no construction around to justify it, and videos of people handing out those bricks to protesters. The governor of minnesota (D) and the NYPD are both saying that the riots are being staged. I also watched Chile have a good portion of their infrastructure burned down, with 10 subway stations going up in flames within 10 minutes of eachother all across a huge city, that doesn't happen "naturally", this violence is being coordinated. But go ahead and delude yourself .

There is no institutional racism in the US, there are no racist laws, there is equality before the law. If anything, there is racism because there are racial and gender quotas. Martin Luther King Jr f*cking died for the equality we have today, but it worked. He's probably rolling in his grave seeing all the violence being perpetrated in the name of social justice. Yes there are racist people in positions of power, we should get rid of them, and they should be tarred and feathered. But don't come telling me that the law is skewed, this is exactly the same thing as feminists talking about a glass cieling and the wage gap. Women have more rights than men, but feminists would have you think that they're some poor victims of the patriarchy. There is no systemic racism in this country, just blue pilled people vomiting up virtue signalling and grandstanding so they can pretend to be good people while doing nothing at all to solve the problem.

What about the "wage gap"?

 

[zekko]

I think the best thing I've heard during all this was from CM Punk, of all people. He said that as a white person, he had no idea what it was like to live as a black person in the US. But now was not the time for us to talk, it was time for us to listen to what our black brothers and sisters were telling us.

I thought that sounded very fair, and I agree with him. Just don't expect me to follow that advice. I mean I will listen, but don't expect me to keep my mouth shut.

 

[corrector]

You can't broadbrush everyone because of a few bad apples.

Yet that's what Trump is doing by labeling protesters as Thugs and wanting to sick dogs and the military on them. It's not because of the majority of peaceful protesters but the few bad applies.

Progress has been made, but there's still work to be done.

What type of progress has been made since Rodney King?

 

[stovepipe]

Analyzing that cops face over and over, still not convinced it's the same person. Everything else aside that receding hairline don't lie.

 

[corrector]

I'm starting to lose patience with these protesters. Their main message is good, but there's too much hate speech. For example, tonight in NY they were chanting "How do you spell racist? NYPD" at the police. That's a very ugly word to be painting a group of people with a large brush. I feel like someone needs to speak out in favor of the police, because they are getting it hard right now, I'm starting to feel sorry for them. Remember after 9/11 they were held up as heroes, now they're being called racists and are considered the greatest evil on the planet. It's no wonder the military doesn't want to be brought in, I wouldn't want to get involved in this mess either.

The Minneapolis city council is talking about dismantling their police department and replacing it with some sort of new radical program. Are these new workers (whatever they are) going to be driving around in vehicles painted with flowers all over them? Kudos to them if they can pull it off, but I'm skeptical.

Let me show you some videos of the find NYPD and how they are treating peaceful protestors:

This guy was simply a Black filmmaker doing a documentary and minding his own business and look at how the NYPD treated him.


Here's another one:

NYPD van driving into a crowd of protestors.


Since 9/11 you had Eric Gardener who was killed in a chokehold and the cops involved never suffered any consequences, but the person who shot the video had to go to jail. You've had Kalief Browder who went to jail over an allegation of stealing a back-pack and was denied bail and suffered in Riker's island for 3 years and was beaten up and traumatized to such an extent he took his own life. How about the Veteran who was arrested for trespassing and ends up dying because the jail was too hot? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/19/homeless-veteran-new-york-prison

If there is hate against NYPD is because over time, especially since 9/11, they have sowed lots of seeds of hate.

 

[zekko]

Who's "we" ?

The United States. The US didn't invent slavery, and weren't the only ones who used it, but that's the "we" I was referring to.

If there is hate against NYPD is because over time, especially since 9/11, they have sowed lots of seeds of hate.

I'm sure there are incidents, but you can't look at one side in a vacuum. The original approach was to let the crowd do what they wanted, and you saw the result. You saw the violence, looting, and destruction that was going on. The police were tasked to stop it, and the entire crowd was extremely hostile toward them. I'm not going to cry because someone got pepper sprayed. The job of controlling people is inherently violent. Those crowds were powder kegs. The protests more recently have been more peaceful, and as a result fewer restrictions are being imposed.

 

[zekko]

There's no such person.

It's a country.

 

[corrector]

I'm sure there are incidents, but you can't look at one side in a vacuum. The original approach was to let the crowd do what they wanted, and you saw the result. You saw the violence, looting, and destruction that was going on. The police were tasked to stop it, and the entire crowd was extremely hostile toward them. I'm not going to cry because someone got pepper sprayed. The job of controlling people is inherently violent. Those crowds were powder kegs. The protests more recently have been more peaceful, and as a result fewer restrictions are being imposed.

What about the Washington DC protests? There was no violence or looting there, just a president wanting to do a photo op.

What about mainly white protestors armed with guns taking over the government in Michigan because of the lockdown orders? It seems the police response is more partisan and racist between that protest and one directly dealing with racism and police brutality as is obvious.
Your country is seen as the biggest hypocrite in the world. You can't twist a principle and only apply it when it sounds good to you as long as you are not suffering on it.

You want real mahem, if all of the protestors, instead of looting, were all armed to the teeth like the white protestors in Michigan then there would be a blood-bath. But, the protesters are mainly unarmed and I don't consider bricks or water bottles to be on the same levels of military-grade and armor piercing weaponry the white protesters in Michigan had.

Here's your big irony. White republican protestors who want to take over the government, occupy federal lands like the Bundys, or occupy legislative buildings like in Michigan, and are ready for a big show-down have a nice police response and nothing happens. Mainly peaceful protesters who are unarmed and just want less oppressive police force are met with brutal and violent police repression. You really still want to have a rosey coloured "protect the police" narrative, then account for the above discrepancies in police response and why police would view protesters who are mainly unarmed a bigger threat than protesters with military-grade weaponry?

 

[zekko]

I understand that. You indicated that some nebulous "we" possessed some collective, posthumous guilt for "the sin of slavery,"

I understand what you're saying, and I'm not suggesting that we alive today are guilty for our ancestors practicing slavery. Like Sam said, I meant it in the sense that we are still (unfortunately) feeling the effects of those decisions today, we're still paying for the sins of our fathers. I don't like it anymore than you do.

It was only 60 years ago that many black people were still not allowed to eat at the same restaurants as whites. There are still resentments, old attitudes, and lingering effects at play, as much as I might wish it otherwise. When I was a kid during the civil rights movement, I had hoped that we would put all this racism and racial tension nonsense behind us completely, but it doesn't look like I'm going to live to see it.

 

[zekko]

Here's your big irony. White republican protestors who want to take over the government, occupy federal lands like the Bundys, or occupy legislative buildings like in Michigan, and are ready for a big show-down have a nice police response and nothing happens. Mainly peaceful protesters who are unarmed and just want less oppressive police force are met with brutal and violent police repression. You really still want to have a rosey coloured "protect the police" narrative, then account for the above discrepancies in police response and why police would view protesters who are mainly unarmed a bigger threat than protesters with military-grade weaponry?

There's nothing "rosey" about any of this.

This was surprising to me, but apparently in Michigan there is no law against having firearms in the capital building, as long as those weapons are not concealed (which they were not). That sounds crazy, and maybe it is, but from what I understand there were no laws broken. I also don't recall there being any violence associated with that protest, whereas these protests have included many violent incidents across the country, including murder.

For the record, I don't think people should be allowed to carry rifles into capitol buildings, but I don't live in Michigan, and I don't make the laws.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

What about the Washington DC protests? There was no violence or looting there, just a president wanting to do a photo op.

What about mainly white protestors armed with guns taking over the government in Michigan because of the lockdown orders? It seems the police response is more partisan and racist between that protest and one directly dealing with racism and police brutality as is obvious.
Your country is seen as the biggest hypocrite in the world. You can't twist a principle and only apply it when it sounds good to you as long as you are not suffering on it.

You want real mahem, if all of the protestors, instead of looting, were all armed to the teeth like the white protestors in Michigan then there would be a blood-bath. But, the protesters are mainly unarmed and I don't consider bricks or water bottles to be on the same levels of military-grade and armor piercing weaponry the white protesters in Michigan had.

Here's your big irony. White republican protestors who want to take over the government, occupy federal lands like the Bundys, or occupy legislative buildings like in Michigan, and are ready for a big show-down have a nice police response and nothing happens. Mainly peaceful protesters who are unarmed and just want less oppressive police force are met with brutal and violent police repression. You really still want to have a rosey coloured "protect the police" narrative, then account for the above discrepancies in police response and why police would view protesters who are mainly unarmed a bigger threat than protesters with military-grade weaponry?

The world observes the hypocrisy but many here can't see it.

 

[corrector]

There's nothing "rosey" about any of this.

This was surprising to me, but apparently in Michigan there is no law against having firearms in the capital building, as long as those weapons are not concealed (which they were not). That sounds crazy, and maybe it is, but from what I understand there were no laws broken. I also don't recall there being any violence associated with that protest, whereas these protests have included many violent incidents across the country, including murder.

For the record, I don't think people should be allowed to carry rifles into capitol buildings, but I don't live in Michigan, and I don't make the laws.

A police officer just has to make an order for them to disburse, or ask for people's identification, etc... and then they would be in violation of the law (public disturbance) if they don't disburse immediately. Therefore the police actually can create crimes in thin air because of their authority and use that discretion against Black people but for the benefit of white people leading to a biased system that has no credibility or legitimacy. If a police officer feels threatened, or arrest someone for resisting arrest. You technically don't have to break any law to get a charge for disorderly conduct, violation of stay-at home orders, social distancing, resisting arrest, etc...

The point is Blacks are often recipients of bogus charges by the police. Someone can call the police on a Black person for doing a legitimate activity, and say they are feeling threatened or there is a suspicious person around, a cop can pull up, tackled the man to the ground and charge him for resisting arrest (i.e. because he might of asked why he's being stopped or why he's doing that to him) and then get booked up. Telling me someone has to be technically breaking the law in order to get arrested by police shows me that you are naive or uninformed about these issues. George Loyd was not "technically" breaking any law (i.e. it was not even confirmed they had the right person at the time of arrest) before he was executed. Therefore a police response has nothing at all to do whether someone is breaking the law or not.

All the police had to do is tell the white protesters to disburse and then they could technically arrest them all because they violated their order and then they could have been charged for disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, etc... however, we know that will not happen to mainly white protesters having a tea-party moment and challenging the government and that's part of being a patriot or good American. When you stand up for people getting unjustly murdered, especially Black people, by the police then you are a thug and are met with hostile police forces. Two different Americas.

In white America you have to break the law in order to get arrested. In black America you are already presumed guilty for something and police can make up charges in thin air.