George Floyd Riots: A Possible False Flag?

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I kid, but the most patriotic thing Trump can do....the best thing for our country....would be for him to voluntarily step down. He's clearly in way over his head with situations no President has ever faced before (in large part due to his own ineptitude) all at the same time.

Libtards win, which sucks. But so does America, which rules.
MSM has been spinning that narrative for 3.5 years now:

* Russiagate....fail
* Ukrainegate....fail
* Impeachment....fail

Not gonna happen with just 6 more months of this term. Trump will most likely be re-elected, as I've already mentioned in the past: Joe Biden is a manchurian candidate that's not even trying to win, he's controlled opposition.
 

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They should just arrest and charge the remaining officers involved for first degree murder (and other charges), and the offending officer's charge should be upgraded to first degree murder and no bias or corruption on the part of the D.A.'s office and there would be no incident in the future. They should just apply the same standard as they would if it was a black cop that accidentally killed a white person.


There is basically no defense for this type of thing. Even China looks at the USA as a big joke for attacking them for Hong Kong.

It is stuff like the above article and the double standards and the message that Blacks are always assumed guilty and deserve getting the death-penalty for the most minor/trivial of infractions and you got a president, white supremacists, police unions, D.A.'s office and people in the power that believe that. It's further inflamed by people that lack empathy and make up excuses rather than deal with the ugly double standards. There is no peaceful resolution if they can't arrest the remaining cops. Why is it they always quick to arrest black people and assume they are guilty and make up excuses not to arrest or go after to the fullest extent of the law when it's a white cop involved with murder caught on camera?
Will these people even be pursued? with video evidence?
 

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This isn't about police brutality anymore, this is being coordinated and instigated. Chile went thru something like this recently where there was some righteous protesting, and then ten of the subway stations in santiago all magically caught fire within ten minutes of each other. They then proceeded to burn down half of the entire subway system and about 600 grocery stores, and then the Rona hit and now they can't get food locally.

This is what happens when you turn a blind eye to the actions of communists and revolutionary idiots. I'm glad to see antifa being declared a terrorist organization, they need to be rooted out.

As for the George Floyd thing, the officers involved should go to jail, and the perpetrator should get life in prison or the death sentence to set an example.
 

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We're not cops, we would never get away with it.

I kid, but the most patriotic thing Trump can do....the best thing for our country....would be for him to voluntarily step down. He's clearly in way over his head with situations no President has ever faced before (in large part due to his own ineptitude) all at the same time.

Libtards win, which sucks. But so does America, which rules.
You don't give in to terrorism. The worst thing he could do would be step down, that would just embolden the far left idiots that have taken over the democratic party and this country would go straight into the dumpster if they get power. The democrats are spineless at this point in history and they're dangerous if given power
 

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Maybe they were tired from the cross-Atlantic boat ride.
Nah, they were practicing a religion that was outdated for the times, even the late 1700s most Americans weren't Puritanical trying to impose their WORDS onto other people's lives. Africans sold their slaves (already slaves in Africa) to New Jersey/New Yorkers mainly, who in turn sold them to Southerners. Slavery was not just a WHITE thing or crime or unique to WHITES. So you got these New Englanders who'd sold the slaves to Southerners, then just a few years later say Slavery should be illegal or not exist. Um, this deception is rife with their kind, and today, their swindling goes on and on and on and on. It's their mentality and their wayward ways. They're plain Evil. It was Southerners who explored and settled the west and into Texas, the frontiersmen. New Englanders just decayed in their stillness, all they ever did was Preach how others should live and try to force it. They're do-gooders, and they are the ones controlling all this chaos as they sit still rotting. The borderers from Scotland/Ireland settled the West past the Mississippi. New Englanders still sit and ruin everything they propose as "right" and the countless laws they dream up. It's a sickness. This altruism that never stops.
 

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You don't give in to terrorism. The worst thing he could do would be step down, that would just embolden the far left idiots that have taken over the democratic party and this country would go straight into the dumpster if they get power. The democrats are spineless at this point in history and they're dangerous if given power
It's mainly intellectuals who should NEVER be given the reigns of power. Intellectuals should be relegated to painting, sculpting, drawing, etc artistic work. This man worked with his hands and read countless books. Most "intellectuals" have never worked a Day in their lives and shouldn't be allowed to rule.
 

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It's mainly intellectuals who should NEVER be given the reigns of power. Intellectuals should be relegated to painting, sculpting, drawing, etc artistic work. This man worked with his hands and read countless books. Most "intellectuals" have never worked a Day in their lives and shouldn't be allowed to rule.
Not to mention, intellectuals are always the first ones to get a bullet when the revolution they've so compassionately called for takes place
 

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Not to mention, intellectuals are always the first ones to get a bullet when the revolution they've so compassionately called for takes place
That much is true, intellectuals are always in the cross-hairs when dictatorships take over. Though I doubt they had much influence in that particular outcome.

But you do recognize the irony of bashing "intellectuals" over the internet, using sub-micron-process silicon do to so, right?
 

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I agree with that, mostly. I wouldn't say they never work, but their work isn't the same as an executive's. Not linear or organized. Personally I don't think professional prostiticians work very hard, except at getting reelected - and they get to take time off from their jobs to run for their jobs (or new jobs). A professional prostitician's day at the office is a walk in the park compared with, say, an orchestra conductor's. But at the same time I wouldn't want an artist as president. Well maybe now I wouldn't mind, to run out the clock on this sh!tshow. I hear George Bush paints.

Actually if you gave me 2-3 weeks to study, I would do a better job than most recent presidents. Of that I am certain. But that's a profession that bootlicks some dark masters, so no thank you. Sorry, America.
meh I wouldn't even call artists as intelectuals, too many are too dumb to even survive doing they "art" they normally cry for goverment endorsements, with in the end remove the money from real intelectuals who are doing science
 

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America's lack of intellectuals in places of power or in places to really speak truth to power is the real problem.
 

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America's lack of intellectuals in places of power or in places to really speak truth to power is the real problem.
Have you read history like Eric Hoffer? He went blind for 7 years after his momma fell down the stairs carrying him but regained his sight at 11 or 12 years old and from then on he read voraciously because he was worried that he would never be able to read again if he should lose his sight again. He read Everything, even in the German language.
 

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This is sad to say, but I don't see any way we can prevent the kind of incident that happened to George Floyd. Police work is inherently violent, and requires them to take control of situations. Bad eggs are going to creep in, unless maybe they psychologically test people for 20 years before allowing them on the force, and I bet they would still slip through the cracks, or be driven mad on the job. The kind of aggressive personalities that can be channeled to do this kind of work are going to backfire sometimes. They need to hold off rioters while being pelted with bottles, just as one example. And they need to do it in a kind, gentle way, or they will be fired. I would not want to be a police officer for any money.

That's why I think a lot of the time, people will give the police officers the benefit of the doubt in iffy situations. Because it's an extremely difficult and dangerous job. In this case, however, everyone can plainly see that this was a disgusting and unnecessary act. Which is why you are seeing people of all races protesting.

I do think we should have some sort of reform in the judicial system to hold officers accountable for police brutality. I think the president should have suggested something of this sort in his speech today. I do agree with him taking a hard line against the rioters, looters, vandals, etc. Peaceful protest is good, rioting should not be tolerated. I was switching around the news channels, and MSNBC and CNN were upset that the president wanted to stop the riots lol. Probably great for the news cycle. I feel for George Floyd and his family, and also for the people who owned businesses that were destroyed, burned, or looted, not to mention the people who were assaulted. This is a damn sad time to be American.
 
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I do think we should have some sort of reform in the judicial system to hold officers accountable for police brutality. I think the president should have suggested something of this sort in his speech today. I do agree with him taking a hard line against the rioters, looters, vandals, etc. Peaceful protest is good, rioting should not be tolerated. I was switching around the news channels, and MSNBC and CNN were upset that the president wanted to stop the riots lol. Probably great for the news cycle. I feel for George Floyd and his family, and also for the people who owned businesses that were destroyed, burned, or looted, not to mention the people who were assaulted. This is a damn sad time to be American.
Read a good piece on the notion that when police brutality is being protested, police take it personally and essentially act as a counter-protest rather than being a force to protect life and property and attempt to de-escalate the situation. Rather they do more than their share to escalate. Plenty of video footage to support that. Also, thankfully, plenty of footage covering officers showing solidarity with protestors (the peaceful ones anyway).

But I'm of the mind that the bar for Posse Comitatus is pretty freakin' high, and we aren't there yet, We will collectively regret that line being crossed.
 

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This is sad to say, but I don't see any way we can prevent the kind of incident that happened to George Floyd. Police work is inherently violent, and requires them to take control of situations. Bad eggs are going to creep in, unless maybe they psychologically test people fro 20 years before allowing them on the force, and I be they would still slip through the cracks, or be driven mad on the job. The kind of aggressive personalities that can be channeled to do this kind of work are going to backfire sometimes. They need to hold off rioters while being pelted with bottles, just as one example. And they need to do it in a kind, gentle way, or they will be fired. I would not want to be a police officer for any money.

That's why I think a lot of the time, people will give the police officers the benefit of the doubt in iffy situations. Because it's an extremely difficult and dangerous job. In this case, however, everyone can plainly see that this was a disgusting and unnecessary act. Which is why you are seeing people of all races protesting.

I do think we should have some sort of reform in the judicial system to hold officers accountable for police brutality. I think the president should have suggested something of this sort in his speech today. I do agree with him taking a hard line against the rioters, looters, vandals, etc. Peaceful protest is good, rioting should not be tolerated. I was switching around the news channels, and MSNBC and CNN were upset that the president wanted to stop the riots lol. Probably great for the news cycle. I feel for George Floyd and his family, and also for the people who owned businesses that were destroyed, burned, or looted, not to mention the people who were assaulted. This is a damn sad time to be American.
People that have shown greed or propensity for violence shouldn't be in that job because they will get worse.
 

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Read a good piece on the notion that when police brutality is being protested, police take it personally and essentially act as a counter-protest rather than being a force to protect life and property and attempt to de-escalate the situation.
There's like a good ole boy network in law enforcement. Police don't want to turn in their co-workers. Police are basically domestic military, and I'm sure there's a fox-hole mentality, they want to support their brothers. That's understandable to an extent, but as we have seen, there are bad cops, and there are bad protesters. Apparently there are plenty of scummy people to go around, on both sides.

As for your second comment, I don't think anything will be required beyond the national guard, but we'll see. In any case, I don't think people should be allowed to burn down our cities, any more than I think police should be allowed to kill handcuffed civilians who are not resisting.

People that have shown greed or propensity for violence shouldn't be in that job because they will get worse.
Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I wish we could fill all the police jobs with Mr. Rodgers, but unfortunately I don't think there are enough like him to go around. He was a sniper in the military, you know (kidding, just kidding).
 

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More recently I watched The Last Dance, and a commentator mentioned how most people project their past onto their future which disrupts their present, but that Michael Jordan is always in the now. I found that fascinating. I also watched The Zen Diaries of Garry Shandling, and he also was a big proponent of simply being in the moment as a stand up comic.
I saw Zen Diaries, Shandling was a surprisingly interesting person. Anyway:

All that stuff about being present is a very Buddhist/Eastern philosophical idea. But funny you guys bring it up, because I recently watched several science podcasts where they talked about time and the nature of reality. I've heard some people say that the past and the future is an illusion, and the present is the only thing that's real. But these guys were saying the past and the future were just as real as the present.

They were saying the universe, and all its history, was like a cd or a vinyl record. The groove for track 5 is just as real as the groove for track 1, and it all exists. It's just that we can only perceive the one moment that we are in at the time. Like we are the laser or the needle. But the past and the future is still there, just as real as the present.

I have no idea what, if any of that, is true, but your comments reminded me of it.
 

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This is sad to say, but I don't see any way we can prevent the kind of incident that happened to George Floyd. Police work is inherently violent, and requires them to take control of situations. Bad eggs are going to creep in, unless maybe they psychologically test people fro 20 years before allowing them on the force, and I be they would still slip through the cracks, or be driven mad on the job. The kind of aggressive personalities that can be channeled to do this kind of work are going to backfire sometimes. They need to hold off rioters while being pelted with bottles, just as one example. And they need to do it in a kind, gentle way, or they will be fired. I would not want to be a police officer for any money.

That's why I think a lot of the time, people will give the police officers the benefit of the doubt in iffy situations. Because it's an extremely difficult and dangerous job. In this case, however, everyone can plainly see that this was a disgusting and unnecessary act. Which is why you are seeing people of all races protesting.

I do think we should have some sort of reform in the judicial system to hold officers accountable for police brutality. I think the president should have suggested something of this sort in his speech today. I do agree with him taking a hard line against the rioters, looters, vandals, etc. Peaceful protest is good, rioting should not be tolerated. I was switching around the news channels, and MSNBC and CNN were upset that the president wanted to stop the riots lol. Probably great for the news cycle. I feel for George Floyd and his family, and also for the people who owned businesses that were destroyed, burned, or looted, not to mention the people who were assaulted. This is a damn sad time to be American.
yeah because of the media, NO ONE wants to be a cop so, in order to get candidates for the job the HR of those departments has to scrape the dregs, hire women even, to fill those positions - it's a sh!tty job due to "rules of engagement" either overt or covert, much like Vietnam and all wars post WWII
 

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yeah because of the media, NO ONE wants to be a cop so, in order to get candidates for the job the HR of those departments has to scrape the dregs, hire women even, to fill those positions - it's a sh!tty job due to "rules of engagement" either overt or covert, much like Vietnam and all wars post WWII
Good point. The protesters want more pressure put on the cops to perform correctly (as they should). But it probably results in fewer good candidates who want to take the job, so they end up hiring more bad cops. It's like a lose lose situation.
Speaking of the media, I'm surprised anyone even still wants to be president these days. Maybe that's why we have the choices we're left with now.
 

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As for your second comment, I don't think anything will be required beyond the national guard, but we'll see. In any case, I don't think people should be allowed to burn down our cities, any more than I think police should be allowed to kill handcuffed civilians who are not resisting.
Agreed that the violence has to stop, but it's unclear at this point what will make that happen. And we can't directly compare this to race riots of the 60's, because with the internet information travels instantaneously and the ability for the destructive agents to organize and stay ahead of the curve is all but unprecedented. The destructive elements can probably keep this going indefinitely.

As for Posse Comitatus, we have a president who has, as of today, declared his intention to disregard it. Even though you're likely correct in that the National Guard is probably sufficient, assuming the bulk of the police force stops treating peaceful protesters as the same level of enemy combatant as the violent ones. Until they stop being reactive, this tinderbox will continue to burn. (and I'm in no way blaming them for the riots, but the footage I've seen demonstrates a show of force that is counterproductive to quelling the unrest)
 

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