Russia helping Bernie's campaign?

[Xenom0rph]

Should we trust CNN on this?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/politics/bernie-sanders-russia-election-interference/index.html

 

[Black Widow Void]

Four years ago, re: Russia, it was not just Trump, but also Jill Stein.

Russia is now the new McCarthyism of the 1950's.

After losing in 2016 and Bernie becoming HRC's lapdog, I have no respect for the guy.

CNN wanted Hillary in 2016. Apparently they've got their eye on someone in 2020, but it's clear that it still isn't Bernie.

 

[Billtx49]

Should we trust CNN on this?

No
It’s only Russia 3.0
When the DNC doesn’t like you, you become a Russian sympathizer, asset, or puppet. Their game is old and worn out as a majority of the thinking public are onto it and it has no shock value anymore, but they still keep trotting it out to their news outlets…

 

[Medina]

It's all quite laughable. USA interfere with foreign elections all the time. Not just subtly, but actually propping up puppets and dictators like candy. I'm not criticising it. You are after all- Britain's successor

But let's get things into perspective lol

 

[EyeBRollin]

Should we trust CNN on this?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/politics/bernie-sanders-russia-election-interference/index.html

Yes.

Four years ago, re: Russia, it was not just Trump, but also Jill Stein.

Russia is now the new McCarthyism of the 1950's.

After losing in 2016 and Bernie becoming HRC's lapdog, I have no respect for the guy.

CNN wanted Hillary in 2016. Apparently they've got their eye on someone in 2020, but it's clear that it still isn't Bernie.

You expected a Democratic candidate to not endorse the Democratic nominee. Does that sound smart to you?

 

[EyeBRollin]

No
It’s only Russia 3.0
When the DNC doesn’t like you, you become a Russian sympathizer, asset, or puppet. Their game is old and worn out as a majority of the thinking public are onto it and it has no shock value anymore, but they still keep trotting it out to their news outlets…

Knock off the conspiracy theories. The DNC has nothing to do with it. Russian interference was verified by Barack Obama, Mitch McConnell, Hillary Clinton, 17 U.S. intelligience agencies, and Donald Trump himself.

It's all quite laughable. USA interfere with foreign elections all the time. Not just subtly, but actually propping up puppets and dictators like candy. I'm not criticising it. You are after all- Britain's successor

But let's get things into perspective lol

Tu Quo Que ("whataboutism"). "I stole something once, therefore I can't get mad if people stole from me." It amounts to one silly rationalization.

 

[Billtx49]

Made up trash

Lame and overused trash at that. It’s an attempt to control the future based on the truth that if you can change perceptions, you can change reality.
The problem is in this day and time with a more immediatelly/electronically informed public you can only use that same ammo once, maybe twice, but not three times in a row……
Some politicians are still playing 1960’s uninformed public game.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Made up trash

Made up by whom?

 

[Xenom0rph]

Made up by whom?

People who hate Bernie and are trying to sabotage him....the same way they did Trump with the Russiagate bs.... It would be naive to think that a major news outlet like CNN, who make revenue via advertisement and whose execs are millionaires, would be disinterested in who wins the Oval Office.....

....it would be equally naive to think those execs would NOT try to put their thumb on the scale in some way....

....I actually even hesitate to call CNN news, I would rather call them a media outlet....

 

[Billtx49]

....I actually even hesitate to call CNN news, I would rather call them a media outlet....

I hear you loud and clear. I actually found it comical back in the CNN early days when some called it the Clinton News Network…
Not anymore.
It’s the main propaganda department of the DNC today.

 

[Bible_Belt]

It got boring around sosuave when we got rid of political threads. I'm glad those days are gone.

 

[Billtx49]

It got boring around sosuave when we got rid of political threads. I'm glad those days are gone.

Don’t count your chickens before they’re hatched. Political parties now pay to spread outright lies and propaganda on internet social media and forums during elections. If it goes over the line, it’s gone.

 

[Xenom0rph]

It got boring around sosuave when we got rid of political threads. I'm glad those days are gone.

SS is a men's help and support forum that focuses on dating and relationship dynamics. Given tgat modern dating is so heavily affected by politics such as feminism, economics, and demographic shifts, i find it odd that politics should be disallowed....

 

[Billtx49]

Given tgat modern dating is so heavily affected by politics such as feminism, economics, and demographic shifts, i find it odd that politics should be disallowed....

I don’t believe that politics would be disallowed that concern the subjects you listed even though the Forum rules state no political threads. On the otherhand if a member wants to spread unproven lies about a political party or elected President, that’s another matter that has to be treated as a toxic issue…

 

[AttackFormation]

The gall that the american ruling class has to send the country into a frenzy over some sort of "russian interference" while America has sponsored wars, paramilitaries, bombings, coups, assassinations, corrupt dictatorships and juntas and economic warfare since the time Smedley D Butler wrote War is a Racket to things like Operation Condor to the time John Perkins wrote Confessions of an Economic Hitman and continuing, from the Americas to Africa to Asia to MENA and even using the CIA to help depose prime minister Gough Whitlam in its own "ally" Australia 1975.. the sheer gall and hypocrisy is mind boggling....

Then you have the accusations that China is installing backdoors into their export tech, while America has already been doing the exact same thing for ages as revealed by for example the Snowden whistleblowing...

Claiming to be the leader of the "free world" while having the most corrupt healthcare system in the world, and a far greater percent of its own population in for profit prison than any other country in deliberate attacks on its own population through things like Operation Mockingbird and the War on "Drugs", and being in bed with regimes like Saudi Arabia... the gall is so ****ing unbelievable.

 

[Xenom0rph]

Bernie was briefd by US Intelligence about Russian assistance to his campaign about a month ago and CNN and the other media outlets were aware of this about a month ago as well....

.... Is it a coincidence that they chose to sit on the story and release it right before the Nevada caucus after Bernie performed well in Iowa and New Hampshire...????....

...I dont think it's a coincidence.... Keep in mind that the execs and anchors in all the major media outlets are millionaires themselves.....

....it would be naive to think that they would not have a vested interested in who wins the Oval Office....especially because Bernie consistently states that he wants to raise taxes on the wealthy which includes an increase in Long Term Capital Gains tax and the Estate tax....

....I would hazard to guess that these media outlets are putting their thumb on the scale to try to derail Bernie....

....Having said that, I personally despise Bernie because he's a champagne socialist who himself is a millionaire with 3 houses.....he's a hypocrite just like all the other demcandidates.....

 

[Xenom0rph]

Yeah i don't like Mini Mike either but he's spitting truth in this clip:

 

[Bible_Belt]

Yeah i don't like Mini Mike either but he's spitting truth in this clip:

A billion is a thousand million, so Bloomberg has a 65,000 to 1 wealth advantage over Bernie. Calling that the same is ridiculous.

 

[AttackFormation]

A billion is a thousand million, so Bloomberg has a 65,000 to 1 wealth advantage over Bernie. Calling that the same is ridiculous.

Bernie cannot win this particular fight by going on the defensive, this is a long established smear of "socialists". If he isn't poor he is a champagne socialist, if he is poor he is invoking the politics of envy. He has to go on the offensive by calling the smear trap out.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Bernie cannot win this particular fight, this is a long established smear of "socialists". If he isn't poor he is a champagne socialist, if he is poor he is invoking the politics of envy. There is no way out of the smear labyrinth.

I am yet to see a Trump 2020 sign at a nice house. It is always a trailer or something old and marginally habitable. These people really believe that the socialist is coming for their wealth, so they must vote for Trump, who wants to take away their food stamps, healthcare, and any other social service he can cut.