Do you think a 5' 4" President Bloomberg would make short men cool? Will Trump try to make stupid heightist jokes about him?

[EyeBRollin]

As i already stated, whether or not the Founding Fathers were slave owners doesnt diminish tge fact that a check on majoritarian is a good thing.....

Cut the bullshvt. You like the electoral college, Russia, and voter suppression as long as it favors Trump. You’ll endorse naked cheating. There’s no principle in your argument.

 

[Xenom0rph]

It's a check on immorality which is a good thing, not an arbitrary check on majoritarianism to enable an equivalent "tyranny of the minority".

Re-read what you wrote and re-read what i wrote:

"After the Civil War, there was a more or less uneasy Republican coalition between the freed blacks and about 20-25% of the white voters "

the EC by design encourages dialogue, cooperation and compromise because the majority cannot just simply overrule the minority....

This proves the EC is an effective check that prevents the Tyranny of 51% ruling 100% of the time....

....it is to be saluted.....

 

[AttackFormation]

I give up.

We'll see what happens in the 2020 election.

 

[Xenom0rph]

I give up. And if Sanders doesn't win in 2020, I would be tempted to give up on America too.

Dont give up, i like poking holes in the leftist narrative.... We can do this all day all week until the mods shut it down....

 

[AttackFormation]

Dont give up, i like poking holes in the leftist narrative.... We can do this all day all week until the mods shut it down....

I have shown you history, not a "leftist narrative". You are in your own delusion man.

 

[Xenom0rph]

I have shown you history, not a "leftist narrative". You are in your own delusion man.

But the history you presented highlights my point:

"After the Civil War, there was a more or less uneasy Republican coalition between the freed blacks and about 20-25% of the white voters"

building a coalition, engaging in dialogue, and both sides accepting compromises is what civilized society should aspire to....which is the purpose of the EC....

.....Democracy is mob rule that simply allows for the 51% to shut down the voice of the 49%....surely you'd agree that this is not moral or civilized....

 

[Bible_Belt]

We'll see what happens in the 2020 election.

Battle of the Billionaires 2020!
The Appointed vs The Annointed!

 

[AttackFormation]

The EC wasn't the forum where the coalition was built, nor where the dialogue was conducted, and the "compromises" that the EC has induced have been on morality for the worse - just as its slavedriving founders intended. The mere fact that they founded and used it to sponsor immorality disproves your notion that you can "discount" the gross immorality that the EC presided over in favor of some ephemeral and arbitrary "principle", which conveniently aligns with your political aspirations. If it really did what you claim it does, then immoral people wouldn't have been able to use or found it for intentionally immoral purposes.

The evidence is that it's moral philosophy, not the political system itself which ultimately determines the outcome, and that preventing a "tyranny of the majority" by instituting a "tyranny of the minority" is a gravely flawed willful ignorance.

Your second point is just a replay of your initial go to soundbite that I've used history and philosophy to get you to reconsider, I won't repeat it.

 

[Bible_Belt]

The democratic party seems to subscribe to the belief of the Tyranny of 51%....otherwise they wouldn't have implemented the super delegate system....which is basically the EC-Lite....

It does beg the question of why they bother to pretend to have an election, when they just appoint a candidate if they don't like the people's choice.

 

[Bible_Belt]

The EC wasn't the forum where the coalition was built, nor where the dialogue was conducted, and the "compromises" that the EC has induced have been on morality for the worse - just as its slavedriving founders intended. The mere fact that they founded and used it to sponsor immorality disproves your notion that you can "discount" the gross immorality that the EC presided over in favor of some ephemeral and arbitrary "principle" which conveniently aligns with your political aspirations. If it really did what you claim it does, then immoral people wouldn't have founded it or been able to use it for immoral purposes.

Your second point is just a replay of your initial go to soundbite that I've used history and philosophy to get you to reconsider, I won't repeat it.

There is a new book out about George Washington. The author mentions that he was always getting mad at his slaves for not taking pride in their work. It was like he was too dense to understand that they didn't want to be there.

 

[Xenom0rph]

It does beg the question of why they bother to pretend to have an election, when they just appoint a candidate if they don't like the people's choice.

The DNC are hypocrites that change their stance based on what suits them..... They want a popular vote to decide the General Election, but within their own party they want an EC-Lite system to prevent the tyranny of the majority....the majority being a bunch of blue-haired socialists led by millionaire Bernie who owns three houses....hypocrisy...

 

[EyeBRollin]

The DNC are hypocrites that change their stance based on what suits them..... They want a popular vote to decide the General Election, but within their own party they want an EC-Lite system to prevent the tyranny of the majority....the majority being a bunch of blue-haired socialists led by millionaire Bernie who owns three houses....hypocrisy...

Didn’t Trump get caught committing treason again yesterday?

 

[Xenom0rph]

The EC wasn't the forum where the coalition was built, nor where the dialogue was conducted, and the "compromises" that the EC has induced have been on morality for the worse - just as its slavedriving founders intended. The mere fact that they founded and used it to sponsor immorality disproves your notion that you can "discount" the gross immorality that the EC presided over in favor of some ephemeral and arbitrary "principle", which conveniently aligns with your political aspirations. If it really did what you claim it does, then immoral people wouldn't have been able to use or found it for intentionally immoral purposes.

The evidence is that it's moral philosophy, not the political system itself which ultimately determines the outcome, and that preventing a "tyranny of the majority" by instituting a "tyranny of the minority" is a gravely flawed willful ignorance.

Your second point is just a replay of your initial go to soundbite that I've used history and philosophy to get you to reconsider, I won't repeat it.

Bear in mind at at the inception of the EC that Blacks and women could not vote, therefore to suggest that the EC was implement to suppress Black and female votes is a mis-characterization....

.... The EC is a mechanism to encourage coalition and dialogue.....

 

[Xenom0rph]

Didn’t Trump get caught committing treason again yesterday?

Let me catch up on my news cycle and get back to you once I've reviewed the facts.... I dont jump to conclusion just because I like or dislike someone....you should try to do the same....

 

[EyeBRollin]

Let me catch up on my news cycle and get back to you once I've reviewed the facts.... I dont jump to conclusion just because I like or dislike someone....you should try to do the same....

Trump decided to replace his top spy chief after his aide told Congress that Russia is interfering in 2020 to help Trump win

Trump was led to falsely believe that Rep. Adam Schiff was fed exclusive information that could help Democrats if released publicly.

www.businessinsider.com

You good with Trump enlisting Russia to cheat again?

 

[AttackFormation]

There is a new book out about George Washington. The author mentions that he was always getting mad at his slaves for not taking pride in their work. It was like he was too dense to understand that they didn't want to be there.

The evil that the human mind can conduct and justify or detach from is surreal...

Children with their limbs chopped off by the force publique in Belgian Congo...



One of the different kinds of torture implements in the USA south



Taking the kids out to a picnic lynching spectacle and turning them into postcards...

 

[AttackFormation]

Japanese soldiers bayonetting babies in WW2's Nanjing Massacre, presumably after gang raping their mothers...



Children in Nazi German concentration camp

 

[Xenom0rph]

Trump decided to replace his top spy chief after his aide told Congress that Russia is interfering in 2020 to help Trump win

Trump was led to falsely believe that Rep. Adam Schiff was fed exclusive information that could help Democrats if released publicly.

www.businessinsider.com

You good with Trump enlisting Russia to cheat again?

A wise man doesnt rely on only one source for his news....as news outlets have their own narratives to advance.... I'll be reviewing from several sources to cross check, until that time I reserve judgement....

 

[AttackFormation]

The DNC are hypocrites that change their stance based on what suits them..... They want a popular vote to decide the General Election, but within their own party they want an EC-Lite system to prevent the tyranny of the majority....the majority being a bunch of blue-haired socialists led by millionaire Bernie who owns three houses....hypocrisy...

There is no kind of left wing voter you'll consider as legitimate. If they're not rich then it's "the politics of envy". If they're not poor then it's "champagne socialism". Neither the circumstances nor the logical conclusion of that stance matters to you. Bonus for being a mindless "SJW", or maybe someone who "wants people to be dependent on the state" if they're concerned about any kind of social issue.

Bear in mind at at the inception of the EC that Blacks and women could not vote, therefore to suggest that the EC was implement to suppress Black and female votes is a mis-characterization....

I never said it was implemented for that reason in the first place.

 

[EyeBRollin]

A wise man doesnt rely on only one source for his news....as news outlets have their own narratives to advance.... I'll be reviewing from several sources to cross check, until that time I reserve judgement....

Trump angry after House briefed on Russia meddling in 2020 election on his behalf

The briefing cost the acting director of national intelligence, Joseph Maguire, a shot at the permanent DNI job, current and former officials said.

www.nbcnews.com

Russia is looking to help Trump win in 2020, election security official told lawmakers

The intelligence community's top election security official delivered a briefing to lawmakers last week warning them that the intelligence community believes Russia is already taking steps to interfere in the 2020 election with the goal of helping President Donald Trump win, three sources...

www.cnn.com

Trump denies Russians are meddling to help him win 2020 election

Donald Trump on denied reports from US intelligence officials that Russia was meddling in the 2020 election to help him win.

nypost.com

Lawmakers Are Warned That Russia Is Meddling to Re-elect Trump (Published 2020)

A classified briefing to House members is said to have angered the president, who complained that Democrats would “weaponize” the disclosure.

www.nytimes.com

You good with getting foreign help to cheat in the election? You endorse cheating? treason?