The meme of Beta Orbiter is now termed "backburner relationship"

[MountainSlide]

my opinion:

Yeah but the woman will have more guys that she’s talking to, she just doesn’t intend on ever giving them anything more than her friendship. True beta orbiters. She knows they have no value but will squeeze any droplet that she can get from them just to make herself feel marginally better about what a failure she is at attracting a man of true value.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yeah but the woman will have more guys that she’s talking to she just doesn’t intend on ever giving them anything more than her friendship. True beta orbiters. She knows they have no value but will squeeze any droplet that she can get from them just to make herself feel marginally better about what a failure she is at attracting a man of true value.

Those backburners give her all the things the guy shes chasing wont:
1. Emotional support
2. Financial support
3. Unreciprocal validation
4. Performs acts of services

The guy shes chasing is unreliable even for sex and he aint worried bout her. She does things she doesnt really do for him.

 

[MountainSlide]

Those backburners give her all the things the guy shes chasing wont:
1. Emotional support
2. Financial support
3. Unreciprocal validation
4. Performs acts of services

The guy shes chasing is unreliable even for sex and he aint worried bout her. She does things she doesnt really do for him.

That’s only true for weak insecure women. A good quality woman won’t put up with someone being unreliable. I think maybe you’re getting the term reliable mixed up with desperate/needy men that are too available. Because that’s a turn off for every woman.

 

[Focal core]

Some folks actually benefit each other. Hence they gain ground on the rest of us man on our own types.

Good stuff @mrgoodstuff , thats why i never believe anything than reciprocal relationship when it comes to LTR. Emotional connection aka chemistry is a must, otherwise smash away. these days im really not down to smash girl who are not into my wavelength, i rather pays for it than risking my metal health lol.

 

[Focal core]

Everyone pretty much knows that girls who post that are pretty much the first ones that will hop into bed with you. They might as well be saying "Get your hookups and casual sex here". The psychology of why this is a question. Maybe they secretly hate themselves so they put "no hookups" because part of them doesn't what to be a slvt. But the reality is they can't help themselves.

Yes guys are focused on looks, but we don't pretend we aren't. Women pretend they aren't when they really are.

What about the whole idea that you shouldn't compliment a woman on her beauty? Isn't that a case of trying to pretend that you're interested in something deeper than their looks, when you're really not?

I mean really, both genders have more than their share of dirtbags.
[/QUOTE]
to be a good looking guy is like a night and day when it comes to women, women literally want you to bang them, same when guys seeing a hb's, women put themselves so that the guy can game her, not so much game and youre in, if youre not that attractive well let say you have to jumping into loops of hoop endlessly.

 

[Mike32ct]

The best black pill is to hear women themselves say what they really think

This.

Having female friends and coworkers will allow you hear some blackpill-lites from time to time.

But the hardcore blackpill discussions are usually reserved for all female company lol.

 

[Focal core]

That’s only true for weak insecure women. A good quality woman won’t put up with someone being unreliable. I think maybe you’re getting the term reliable mixed up with desperate/needy men that are too available. Because that’s a turn off for every woman.

most of them are, i say most, not all.

 

[Mike32ct]

I read all the posts on the Reddit OP and there's nothing new or surprising in there. Guys who are 4's, 5's, and 6's trying to FWB or ONS HB8+'s. The irony here is that a number of the women posting said they would consider something other than a FWB arrangement with the not-so-good-looking guy. So all the lower-value guy had to do was NOT say he doesn't want anything serious and take her out for drinks once a week, have her over for dinner, or to an event and he'd HAVE a hot FWB, just don't admit to it.

I agree with a couple of the chicks who posted guys have a tendency to c*ock-block themselves, LOL.

Yes that’s a different angle. If a less attractive guy is somehow able to punch above his weight and get a date with a hot chick, then he shouldn’t fear that the hot chick will turn into a Stage 5 Clinger. That’s highly unlikely to happen.

You can’t really “lead on” or “hurt/disappoint” a hot chick, unless you are Chad/Chadlite.

For an average or below average looking guy, the hot chick will be happy to get rid of you afterwards.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Good stuff @mrgoodstuff , thats why i never believe anything than reciprocal relationship when it comes to LTR. Emotional connection aka chemistry is a must, otherwise smash away. these days im really not down to smash girl who are not into my wavelength, i rather pays for it than risking my metal health lol.

The right woman expands your sphere of influence.

 

[thinker]

@AttackFormation I read that sub reddit for laughs. They complain about the red pill and then turn around and show how true it really is. I also read that they spend a lot of time posting on incel subs and subs like dating over 30 and forever alone. This proves my theory that these women are post wall bitter left overs. This sub along with the feminist subs like pink pill feminism are actually quit funny and entertaining. Don't get upset over what a bunch of female incels have to say.

 

[zekko]

That's just a case of not boring her with free validation. They want to earn it.

It's still a deception of sorts.

to be a good looking guy is like a night and day when it comes to women

That's why when they were trying to put together Game Theory, they weren't as interested in game testing by handsome, high SMV men. If a less attractive guy was able to make a technique work, that showed that it was the behavior they were attracted to, and it was considered "solid game".

 

[Epic Days]

That’s only true for weak insecure women. A good quality woman won’t put up with someone being unreliable.

Just for clarification purposes. Please define a high quality woman. Does this mean she is above any of the things talked about in this thread? She’s only had a cok or maybe two?
How is this defined? She won’t come after you with a knife?

 

[Epic Days]

@AttackFormation I read that sub reddit for laughs. They complain about the red pill and then turn around and show how true it really is. I also read that they spend a lot of time posting on incel subs and subs like dating over 30 and forever alone. This proves my theory that these women are post wall bitter left overs. This sub along with the feminist subs like pink pill feminism are actually quit funny and entertaining. Don't get upset over what a bunch of female incels have to say.

It would be nice if it was that simple for him. Truth will crash in a man’s skull when he realizes that the world we live in flies into the face of his mothers unconditional love. Those past fantasies are real to him. All the way down to the bone. It’s an unsolvable situation for which a solution is being demanded by him.

We call it cold blooded. A woman calls it Tuesday or Wednesday.

 

[Epic Days]

Fuk no.

 

[MountainSlide]

Just for clarification purposes. Please define a high quality woman. Does this mean she is above any of the things talked about in this thread? She’s only had a cok or maybe two?
How is this defined? She won’t come after you with a knife?

I would define a good quality woman as one who has her own life, isn’t needy, has integrity, etc. I would just leave it at some basic quality character traits. Vs a woman that’s insecure, needs constant reassurance, accuses you of cheating because you didn’t message her back right away etc.

There are traits that are pretty much universal across all women (how attraction is built). But if you exhibit devious or toxic behaviours to a woman that has her shyt together she will dump you. If you do it to your low quality insecure woman, she’ll cling even harder then maybe come after you with the knife lol.

 

[zekko]

Tip of pyramid of power looks like that => top SMV males with enough assets that have dozens of women ready to lay with them on their whim. These males SUPPORT (yes, they support and help to promote) feminism, sexual liberty, political correctness etc. because it supports women that will go and choose them for their mates using this promoted agenda.

I hadn't thought of that before. If the top guys are going to have dozens of girls out to bang them, the girls might as well have good jobs to buy them dinner along with it.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I hadn't thought of that before. If the top guys are going to have dozens of girls out to bang them, the girls might as well have good jobs to buy them dinner along with it.

A lot of guys SUPPORT feminism, because they benefit from it. They end up fvcking wives behind the scenes and helping to take down a husband.

 

[zekko]

A lot of guys SUPPORT feminism, because they benefit from it.

There have been a couple of guys here who said they supported feminism because it encouraged more women to ride the carousel, so it was more opportunities for casual sex for them. I'm actually surprised more guys here don't feel that way.

 

[Focal core]

Just for clarification purposes. Please define a high quality woman. Does this mean she is above any of the things talked about in this thread? She’s only had a cok or maybe two?
How is this defined? She won’t come after you with a knife?

I define high quality women are women that are emotionally healthy and thriving. Wont need orbiters as they validated themselves... Thad kind of women has wider pool of men compared to the rest, men just awe about them trying to take her down, they made good ltr, lots has to offer. Beside chattering about their past life.. Lots of things going on in them.. Buts its rare af nawdays.

 

[Epic Days]

I define high quality women are women that are emotionally healthy and thriving. Wont need orbiters as they validated themselves...

Utterly impossible. Biologically incorrect. Or do you mean a guy that’s now a girl?

Her not needing validation is about you. If she gets validation from other men, that’s pretty scary for you. But you better get use to it.