The meme of Beta Orbiter is now termed "backburner relationship"

[MatureDJ]

my opinion:

 

[sch]

This sounds and looks very true:
* people have more orbiters nowdays,
* it's easier to find sex online, but harder to find LTR

 

[Focal core]

This sounds and looks very true:
* people have more orbiters nowdays,
* it's easier to find sex online, but harder to find LTR

How true it is.. Going ltr nawdays.. To find an ample suitors just phew we ee.. Lots are already mentally fvcked up.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Guys listen at me, the same moment your libido drops you wont find any reason beside social status to deal with women.

Right now the only reason I have good looking girls in my life is for work meetings to impresso those who decide promotions.

It may happen in your 30s, in your 40s or later but at some point it will...dont be dumb dont get married that would be like dragging around an umbrella even if its done raining 3 months ago.

 

[Focal core]

.dont be dumb dont get married that would be like dragging around an umbrella even if its done raining 3 months ago.

Its hilarious mate how you making up terms like that coherent with women, i wonder how those men can stand being 30 years with same partners, im guessing they dont.. Theres fire lit behind their cloak.

 

[AttackFormation]

Guys listen at me, the same moment your libido drops you wont find any reason beside social status to deal with women.

Right now the only reason I have good looking girls in my life is for work meetings to impresso those who decide promotions.

It may happen in your 30s, in your 40s or later but at some point it will...dont be dumb dont get married that would be like dragging around an umbrella even if its done raining 3 months ago.

Can you help me man? I don't know how to deal with the sickness I feel reading what the women say in this reddit OP and a few of the comments on it. Their mindset about men is so repulsive, I can barely handle reading it. I feel like I might as well be reading Nazi doctor logs. They have such contempt for men who are not Chad, especially if that man expects to be treated with basic respect. It actually makes me feel physically sick around my chest and gut area.

The best black pill is to hear women themselves say what they really think

 

[Focal core]

Can you help me man? I don't know how to deal with the sickness I feel reading what the women say in this reddit OP and a few of the comments on it. Their mindset about men is so repulsive, I can barely handle reading it, I feel like I might as well be reading Nazi doctor logs. It actually makes me feel physically sick around my chest and gut area.

The best black pill is to hear women themselves say what they really think

Just saperate yourself from those afc banging those 35yrs and above.. Those who at around my age 39 wont look attractive to me anymore, those whose below that age are showing their boobs at me everytime they get the chances.. Value yourself higher, not imaginary but put yourself there.. Looks is a must, your facial appearance.. See derm to get back the looks you misses so much when youre 25 yrs old, go to gym get toned , enjoy being alone with yourself.. Invest lots of money to yourself.. Thats what im doing in a very moment right now.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Can you help me man? I don't know how to deal with the sickness I feel reading what the women say in this reddit OP and a few of the comments on it. Their mindset about men is so repulsive, I can barely handle reading it. I feel like I might as well be reading Nazi doctor logs. They have such contempt for men who are not Chad, especially if that man expects to be treated with basic respect. It actually makes me feel physically sick around my chest and gut area.

The best black pill is to hear women themselves say what they really think

Women are exactly like nazis when it comes of evaluating the genetic stock of a man, its not even about race they simply see men either a worth genetic material for reproduction, average material good to provide for them and chads or trash that should be load into trains and sent far away and never return.

Thats the end game of feminism, its not about women rights or equality but simply totally fulfill the lowest deepest instinct of women where no human rights or fairness are involved...you either are born with the right DNA or you have no rights at all.

There are no such things existing within the male sex, no men would wish any harm or take advantage of an ugly girl, most of us would respect her rights while just not providing resources to her nor try to have sex with her, nothing more than that.

And the worst thing is that just like nazi they genuinely believe thats fair and thats how things are supposed to do...just have a look at women divorcing the man with whom shared years toghter and kids, they have no mercy or human feelings toward them once they decided they have to go.

 

[Pajeet Singh]

This is mixed mating strategy explained for Normies.

 

[AttackFormation]

And the worst thing is that just like nazi they genuinely believe thats fair and thats how things are supposed to do...just have a look at women divorcing the man with whom shared years toghter and kids, they have no mercy or human feelings toward them once they decided they have to go.

Speaking about beliefs in fairness. Just look at what they say:

"He told me during the date that he wasn't looking for anything serious. As soon as he said that, he had zero value to me. I cut the date off soon after. Why? Because I already had a cute FWB set-up and didn't need another FWB. FWB was ... a lot hotter than this clown."

"They all have this lame mantra now "why should I have to pay for what Chad gets for free?" Well dip****, because you are NOT CHAD!"

"Men wanted casual sex, well looks like you got what you wanted but now you are pissed because women will only have casual sex with the best of the best, obviously, women dont **** down, we dont have to."

"Yup, listen up lurkers, we can have sex with the top tier of men anytime we want, casual sex isnt for average men. Sorry, not sorry."

My takeaway is that if the typical woman puts up hoops for you having sex with her, she does not really desire you. Certainly not like she desires Chad, who is already fvcking her for free. And if she does not desire you, it is best for your own sake that you do not commit to her. You would just be setting yourself up for passive aggressive resentment, nagging, irritability, withholding of sex and affection, and divorce.

 

[AttackFormation]

If men were aware of what these women say, the black pill and mgtow would be normalized.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Speaking about beliefs in fairness. Just look at what they say:

"He told me during the date that he wasn't looking for anything serious. As soon as he said that, he had zero value to me. I cut the date off soon after. Why? Because I already had a cute FWB set-up and didn't need another FWB. FWB was ... a lot hotter than this clown."

"They all have this lame mantra now "why should I have to pay for what Chad gets for free?" Well dip****, because you are NOT CHAD!"

"Men wanted casual sex, well looks like you got what you wanted but now you are pissed because women will only have casual sex with the best of the best, obviously, women dont **** down, we dont have to."

"Yup, listen up lurkers, we can have sex with the top tier of men anytime we want, casual sex isnt for average men. Sorry, not sorry."

My takeaway is that if the typical woman puts up hoops for you having sex with her, she does not really desire you. Certainly not like she desires Chad, who is already fvcking her for free. And if she does not desire you, it is best for your own sake that you do not commit to her. You would just be setting yourself up for passive aggressive resentment, nagging, irritability, withholding of sex and affection, and divorce.

Now you understand why I live by a soft MGTOW rule and put no investment at all in relationships?

At this point is clear that if you need a relationship to have sex with a woman its because she does not genuinely desires you and give you sex with no particular desire to do it only to have access to what you can provide.

At this point pay to play its a much better option in both economical terms, your dignity and mental health.

Many guys chase validation so much that they cant tell real desire from a hidden highly expensive purchase.

Anyone who had the chance to have enough one night stands or fvck buddies CAN tell the difference between deep desire and a masked purchase.

 

[AttackFormation]

Now you understand why I live by a soft MGTOW rule and put no investment at all in relationships?

At this point is clear that if you need a relationship to have sex with a woman its because she does not genuinely desires you and give you sex with no particular desire to do it only to have access to what you can provide.

At this point pay to play its a much better option in both economical terms, your dignity and mental health.

Many guys chase validation so much that they cant tell real desire from a hidden highly expensive purchase.

Anyone who had the chance to have enough one night stands or fvck buddies CAN tell the difference between deep desire and a masked purchase.

I totally understand you man. I think that is actually what makes the most sense, but most men will not want to accept the black pill even if it is shoved in their face as it is too bleak on a mental level. And on a practical level they will fear they need a relationship or it's over for them. But they will still lose anyway when she starts withholding sex and affection.

Even if I am not so good looking that online dating works for me for example, I can at least be thankful every day that I have the serviceable DNA I do have.

Looks is life. Looksmax for life.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Its hilarious mate how you making up terms like that coherent with women, i wonder how those men can stand being 30 years with same partners, im guessing they dont.. Theres fire lit behind their cloak.

Some folks actually benefit each other. Hence they gain ground on the rest of us man on our own types.

 

[AttackFormation]

Definitely do something more productive and don't read that stuff lol

Every man needs to read that subreddit. But you are right that I don't lol. I am already black pilled.

 

[zekko]

"Men wanted casual sex, well looks like you got what you wanted but now you are pissed because women will only have casual sex with the best of the best, obviously, women dont **** down, we dont have to."

I don't find this all that shocking really. They're just responding to the realities of their situation. It's no more cutthroat than what a lot of the guys here say, how women have no value outside of having sex, if they don't put out they get dumped, guys should only bang girls 25 or under even if they themselves are 78, etc. That last bit was a bit of an exaggeration admittedly, but you know what I'm talking about. Most guys wouldn't bang an HB6 if they could bang an HB9. For the most part, her statement is correct, they don't have to fvck down.

And in the video, it actually says guys keep more backburner relationships than women do. I was skeptical of that at first, but really why should women keep more backburner relationships? It's not that difficult for them to pick up another one on short notice, if they need one. I try to keep potential options in my head should I need them in the future, so maybe there's some truth to it.

 

[AttackFormation]

I don't find this all that shocking really. They're just responding to the realities of their situation. It's no more cutthroat than what a lot of the guys here say, how women have no value outside of having sex, if they don't put out they get dumped, guys should only bang girls 25 or under even if they themselves are 78, etc. That last bit was a bit of an exaggeration admittedly, but you know what I'm talking about. Most guys wouldn't bang an HB6 if they could bang an HB9. For the most part, her statement is correct, they don't have to fvck down.

And in the video, it actually says guys keep more backburner relationships than women do. I was skeptical of that at first, but really why should women keep more backburner relationships? It's not that difficult for them to pick up another one on short notice, if they need one. I try to keep potential options in my head should I need them in the future, so maybe there's some truth to it.

The point is not what they do but the fact that this is something they hide or pretend like they don't do. Go on OLD and you'll see them saying "no hookups!" "no fwb!" "no casual sex!". They know that if men knew those standards apply to them, but not to Chad, those men would feel like she doesn't really desire them - which is exactly the case and the whole point. They might feel qualms about being committing to her.

It's the same as the whole looks thing. Yes guys are focused on looks, but we don't pretend we aren't. Women pretend they aren't when they really are.

 

[zekko]

Go on OLD and you'll see them saying "no hookups!" "no fwb!" "no casual sex!".

Everyone pretty much knows that girls who post that are pretty much the first ones that will hop into bed with you. They might as well be saying "Get your hookups and casual sex here". The psychology of why this is a question. Maybe they secretly hate themselves so they put "no hookups" because part of them doesn't what to be a slvt. But the reality is they can't help themselves.

Go on OLD and you'll see them saying "no hookups!" "no fwb!" "no casual sex!".

Yes guys are focused on looks, but we don't pretend we aren't. Women pretend they aren't when they really are.[/QUOTE]
What about the whole idea that you shouldn't compliment a woman on her beauty? Isn't that a case of trying to pretend that you're interested in something deeper than their looks, when you're really not?

I mean really, both genders have more than their share of dirtbags.

 

[AttackFormation]

What about the whole idea that you shouldn't compliment a woman on her beauty? Isn't that a case of trying to pretend that you're interested in something deeper than their looks, when you're really not?

I mean really, both genders have more than their share of dirtbags.

That's just a case of not boring her with free validation. They want to earn it.

Absolutely. There is an overlap of what people of either gender should stay away from for their own good - cluster B traits, addicts, criminals, serial cheaters and the likes to the best of your ability to detect them. And there are male behaviors that women should be aware of, like the fact that just because he fcks you does not mean he wants to commit to you. But, there is also a veil of deception over men's awareness and just like feminists will say "we have enough work, you can be activists for mens' rights yourselves", I say the same in this regard.

Women don't want to feel like they're good for sex but not for commitment, men don't want to feel like they're good for giving their commitment but not for being desired. The fact that they have such contempt for men who feel that way is what repulsed me.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Can you help me man? I don't know how to deal with the sickness I feel reading what the women say in this reddit OP and a few of the comments on it. Their mindset about men is so repulsive, I can barely handle reading it. I feel like I might as well be reading Nazi doctor logs. They have such contempt for men who are not Chad, especially if that man expects to be treated with basic respect. It actually makes me feel physically sick around my chest and gut area.

The best black pill is to hear women themselves say what they really think

I read all the posts on the Reddit OP and there's nothing new or surprising in there. Guys who are 4's, 5's, and 6's trying to FWB or ONS HB8+'s. The irony here is that a number of the women posting said they would consider something other than a FWB arrangement with the not-so-good-looking guy. So all the lower-value guy had to do was NOT say he doesn't want anything serious and take her out for drinks once a week, have her over for dinner, or to an event and he'd HAVE a hot FWB, just don't admit to it.

I agree with a couple of the chicks who posted guys have a tendency to c*ock-block themselves, LOL.