Does a Low SMV Affect who I should approach?

[candyman105]

Night game is heavily biased in favor of the good looking.

You'll find the same is true for day game.

Regardless of pics, your experiences "in the field" confirm online results.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Night game is heavily biased in favor of the good looking.

You'll find the same is true for day game.

Regardless of pics, your experiences "in the field" confirm online results.

Well I guess we'll have to see huh lol. And even if this is a massive failure, I still win cause I get boatloads of field experience and I can always keep Self Improving as the year goes on.

How many approaches have you done, out of curiosity?

 

[biggoal]

Another thing I was wondering about is at my part-time job at a grocery store I do for extra money is it okay to try and use game on customers?

Again, the problem is when a grown woman sees you working a loser job she will think you're a loser in her head and won't give you a second thought.

Maybe if you're 22 years old and in college that's fine because most that age work those low end jobs, but in your 30s if a woman sees that they will be turned off. Even though it's only a part time job for some extra cash.

So when at work at a part time crap job should you just not even bother trying to talk to women?

 

[ubercat]

@nicksaiz65

Not for getting it wet. And fvcking a 9 will increase your confidence with the 7s who might actually stick around..if u want that.

Remember you lease a woman u don't get to own her. and over the long-term every relationship is temporary until you hit the rest home

 

[ubercat]

And once again for the binary crowd. Nick you are doing absolutely the right thing sticking to the program and investing in yourself it will pay off. That is strategic investment. The LMS.

Game can be used to provide a short term spike in attraction. That is tactical.

Don't u give a flying fuk if somebody calls u a PUA. Cold approach is a SEAL hell week. It is tough that's the point. Try it. If it's not working for you try something else, at your age just about every action you take helps you and adds to who you are as a man. As long as you're talking to girls and not eating Cheetos on your couch it will all work out over time.

Absorb what is useful.

Add that which is specifically your own

All the experiences will soak into your mind and you ll gradually find your own style and boundaries.

 

[nicksaiz65]

What site did you use? Photofeeler is very subjective. You should shoot for any and all ladies that you find attractive. A shot not taken is a guaranteed fail.

Yeah I used Photofeeler. I appreciate it Rick. I'll do that and I'll keep it moving on my approaches.

 

[candyman105]

Well I guess we'll have to see huh lol. And even if this is a massive failure, I still win cause I get boatloads of field experience and I can always keep Self Improving as the year goes on.

How many approaches have you done, out of curiosity?

You already have 2 years experiencing endless rejection and frustration. You said yourself that your experience "in the field" confirms that you are a 4/10. You say game is pointless because you are below the looks threshold. Are you a masochist?

 

[nicksaiz65]

You already have 2 years experiencing endless rejection and frustration. You said yourself that your experience "in the field" confirms that you are a 4/10. You say game is pointless because you are below the looks threshold. Are you a masochist?

"Endless rejection and frustration"

There's that projection again. I've had my successes, and I'm pleased with them. I ask this question because I want to level up again with women. Get the higher quality ones.

What I meant by that is that I'm thinking that I was using my Local Status to pull the hotter chicks. The end game is to do it without any need for status. So how can I most efficiently develop that Game as I continue to stay on my purpose and self improve?

I'm a masochist or extremely stubborn or both. I love the Game. Funny that you use the word masochist as well. I will never, ever give up. I don't care how much "pain" I have to go through. Rejections are irrelevant anyways.

 

[candyman105]

"Endless rejection and frustration"

There's that projection again. I've had my successes, and I'm pleased with them. I ask this question because I want to level up again with women. Get the higher quality ones.

I'm either a masochist or extremely stubborn or both. I love the Game.

So, I am making up the fact that photo feeler rated you 4/10 and I also made up the fact that you said that your experience "in the field" confirms the photo feeler rating. I also made up the fact that you yourself said gams is irrelevant since you are below the looks standard.

By all accounts, you have had zero success. What are you doing then to earn your "successes?" Are you raping girls? Roofies? Prostitutes? You claim "successes" now, but everything you've said in this thread points to the exact opposite.

 

[nicksaiz65]

So, I am making up the fact that photo feeler rated you 4/10 and I also made up the fact that you said that your experience "in the field" confirms the photo feeler rating. I also made up the fact that you yourself said gams is irrelevant since you are below the looks standard.

By all accounts, you have had zero success. What are you doing then to earn your "successes?" Are you raping girls? Roofies? Prostitutes? You claim "successes" now, but everything you've said in this thread points to the exact opposite.

I could point out about three fallacies in your argument, but it's no good. I'm here to learn and see how I can improve more in this year for Game, not to argue with trolls.

Definitely prostitutes. Have a nice night bro

 

[ubercat]

I suspect candyarse is a feminist troll IRL.

 

[zekko]

And once again for the binary crowd. Nick you are doing absolutely the right thing sticking to the program and investing in yourself it will pay off. That is strategic investment. The LMS.

Yep, Nick is young enough that he has plenty of time to change, and his image is far from locked in. People who knew me in my 30s would probably never recognize the person I was in my early 20s. Your 20s is all about putting in the work.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Yep, Nick is young enough that he has plenty of time to change, and his image is far from locked in. People who knew me in my 30s would probably never recognize the person I was in my early 20s. Your 20s is all about putting in the work.

Definitely. I'm ready to put in that work. It's also a goal of mine to be smashing young 21-25 year olds while I'm in my 30s too. I think the formula for that is just money + gym lol.

 

[zekko]

Definitely. I'm ready to put in that work. It's also a goal of mine to be smashing young 21-25 year olds while I'm in my 30s too. I think the formula for that is just money + gym lol.

Money + gym + maturity. I think the maturity is what women find refreshing about older men. That's just my theory though.

 

[ubercat]

Agree. Every season has its charms. I ve had several young ladies in their 20s say they prefer guys in their 40s as they know who they are and have nothing to prove - AKA not too cool for school.

Nick u seem to have the incredibly rare abilities of REALLY hearing advice and trusting in the process so you will be fine.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Yeah after hearing these marriage horror stories I have no intentions of walking into that bear trap lol. Smashing 18-mid twenty something's in my 30s and 40s would be the freaking life. Imagine how good my Game would be if I had 20 whole years to work on it. The only thing is having kids...

But that's a whole different thread.

 

[candyman105]

And yet you continue to post here non-stop. How many approaches in are you?

 

[nicksaiz65]

And yet you continue to post here non-stop. How many approaches in are you?

Yup. I plan to get as much help as I need to meet my goals this year. Pook said to go out into the field, make mistakes, and then come back to the board for help.

This last semester, I did 80. For my DayGame I've done 7 in two days. Three yesterday, two today.

What about you? How many approaches in are you?

 

[fastlife]

I finally stepped up and got my looks rated. I knew I had some work to do, but I am HURTING lol. I'm a 4.5/10, and based on my experiences in the field that's about right. No wonder I have issues with flaking. Every time I've been able to pull a hotter chick, it's been because I'm using my local status.

Of course I'm working on the issue. I've been hitting the gym HARD in the past 2 months. I think that by the end of my Winter Break, I should be able to raise myself up to a 5/10.

That's still not a great appearance rating though, unfortunately. And if you can't pass her looks test, your Game is null and void. We all know how superficial girls are.

I'm concurrently working on my Game so that by the time my looks are dialed, I don't ruin it with the hot girls through sh*tty Game. Namely, I need to get more sexual experience. So I'm going to do 120 DayGame Cold Approaches over my Winter Break.

But I'm wondering... Is it worthless for me to approach 7-8/10 chicks with this low appearance rating, even with the Numbers Game? Should I only focus on chicks 5/10 or below while I build up my appearance? That would be average looking chicks or chubby chicks(unfortunately. Gotta get my looks up.) I'm just wondering if that's a good strategy while I approach so I can have success until I build up my looks to 6.5-7/10, plus not get rejected 100 times in a row.

Roosh V says that your looks score tells you what kind/rating of girl you should focus on if you don't want to experience sustained rejection and failure.

Or is that a dumb strategy? Maybe I should play Numbers hard even with the attractive girls, and maybe I get lucky even with my low appearance rating.

Let me know which route you all think I should go.

2 questions: Who's frame is this? Who's value system are you operating from?

Even hot girls hook up with trolls. "There's just something about him." Circling back to value systems: For some girls, looks are non-negotiable, and they'll be strongly biased in that direction. For some girls, money's a non-negotiable, and they'll be strongly biased in that direction. But for most girl, their emotions will do the choosing for them, and they'll just rationalize later. You have no way of knowing a girl's value system until you actually talk to her. And even then, most girls' value systems go out the window if you can impact her emotions.

Viewing yourself as coming from a place of inferiority will sabotage your chances with the majority of girls.

 

[nicksaiz65]

2 questions: Who's frame is this? Who's value system are you operating from?

Even hot girls hook up with trolls. "There's just something about him." Circling back to value systems: For some girls, looks are non-negotiable, and they'll be strongly biased in that direction. For some girls, money's a non-negotiable, and they'll be strongly biased in that direction. But for most girl, their emotions will do the choosing for them, and they'll just rationalize later. You have no way of knowing a girl's value system until you actually talk to her. And even then, most girls' value systems go out the window if you can impact her emotions.

Viewing yourself as coming from a place of inferiority will sabotage your chances with the majority of girls.

Yeah it definitely is a limiting factor. I get too caught up in this SMV stuff, although improving is important. I decided I'm just gonna approach whoever I want.

I swear every batch of approaches I do I find out about a new limiting belief that I have lol. I'm systematically attacking them