other men are jellous of my success with women and they try to ruin me

[sosousage]

im not sure, why are they so jealous ? what can i do towards it

 

[Focal core]

By becoming a monks, maybe you will find heaven and be enlightend and serenity. Peace to you brother.

 

[Black Widow Void]

I've experienced this as well. Stepping outside myself, I can sort of understand their behavior (though it's still frustrating) . Perhaps you can relate.
They look at us and see someone that shouldn't have a higher level of success - than them. It's like they have this perceived entitlement mentality. As to me, they see someone that is not as stylishly dressed, or driving the latest car model, etc... and because they put stock (money, energy and effort) into these things and see someone else reaping benefits that they aren't... they have this "it's not fair" mindset.

If you look beneath the surface, it's flattering,and funny. These men are basing their worth and image on who you are. You're the leader. And... women being the perceptive creatures that they are, will see their behavior as weak and catty (neither of which, looks good on a man).

What can you do towards it?
The best thing is to disengage and not even acknowledge, but I haven't always taken my own advice.
Once I told a guy (while around his peers) "I wish you could get over me."
Another time, there was a guy that was for more cleaver with snide remarks (I'll give him that) I responded with "why are you bidding for my attention? I'm not taking you home." I made it sound sincere as if I really thought that this was his intention. He never bothered me again.

 

[sosousage]

I experience the opposite. Being good with women has made me more popular with guys than I can ever imagine. In San Francisco I had an entire seduction community worship me, lol. they would buy me drinks, give me gifts, and invite me to parties just so they could be in my presence and see how I interact with women. And then they would talk amongst themselves and speak glowingly about how ureactive my frame is. Basically I became a legend to men, lol

I think your problem is you are not a leader. When you become a leader of men and you are competent with women, they will all admire you As if you were a hero.

lol beta cucks worship you

 

[Alvafe]

if youa re doing anything perceiveid as doing better, other will try to take you down to they lvl, if you are seeing this, then you are doing your job right, keep doing waht you are doing

 

[MillionBillionaire]

HEY GUZE WHY AM I SOOO AWESOME HUH? Thanks

 

[sosousage]

You are doing the same thing you just complained about. I claimed that I am successful with leading men, and then you proceeded to hate on me by claiming anyone who follows me is a beta cuck, lol

you deserve to get hated on. You have no ability to get along with guys and this conversation is proof of it.

people always get what they deserve in the end.

no i just found it funny because i wouldnt want beta cucks to worship me so no its not like im jealous

HEY GUZE WHY AM I SOOO AWESOME HUH? Thanks

cant tell if you are being serious or if its just your joke not being funny

 

[RickTheToad]

im not sure, why are they so jealous ? what can i do towards it

Guess they are not jealous of your spelling ability though...

 

[2Rocky]

Guess they are not jealous of your spelling ability though...

 

[RickTheToad]

Nah. But, this will help you out.

 

[sosousage]

Guys admiring me has led to free club entrances, free drinks, vip access, social connections with guys in position of power and influence, career connections, social circles with women, etc. The real beta cuck is the guy who doesn’t see the power of being a leader of men.

im sure every tinder woman can say the same thing about beta cucks. free food on dates, free gifts, even expensive.. so youre like a woman. are you sure these dudes are not gay

 

[RickTheToad]

The real woman is you. Who starts threads fishing for validation from a forum full of dudes? Lol. And expectantly, people are clowning you.

Thats called PITY. Not hate.

You say you are successful with women, but your Actions (reactive, fishing for validation) betray you.

Had to....

 

[17 shots]

Are you a really skinny guy?

 

[MillionBillionaire]

no i just found it funny because i wouldnt want beta cucks to worship me so no its not like im jealous




cant tell if you are being serious or if its just your joke not being funny

I WAS BEING SUPER SERIOUS WHY ARE YOU SOOOO COOL??!!

You obviously lack social awareness... do you have autism?

 

[Focal core]

Guys open use your brains for once!! I strongly advised guys in this situation change to a better by becoming a monks!! Guys who previously jeolous of your success with women will now run like a plague when they see you, listen, monks!!

 

[bcude]

When someone tries to climb out of the barrell of order in the incelhood, there are always crabs trying to pull you back down again.
Why? Because humans need predictability, it gives us a sense of control over others. When you alter yourself, this is a threat to that preditability, so the logical attempt is to put us back into our places. Shaming comes as a natural tactic for women, to get back into their frame. The new you is a frame grab. Others around you have a desire to see normalcy, not your best interest.

Change all at once and people will accuse your personality of being a disingenuous reaction to having been burned. Do it subtly and persistently over a time and people will be more willing to accept the change as genuine. Always insist on change, but never too quickly.

 

[zekko]

Good thing your body doesn't have more gangster vibes, the guys would really be jealous of you then.

 

[sosousage]

Good thing your body doesn't have more gangster vibes, the guys would really be jealous of you then.

no, if it had more gangster vibes then they would be sniffing flowers from underneath

 

[BeExcellent]

I experience the opposite. Being good with women has made me more popular with guys than I can ever imagine. In San Francisco I had an entire seduction community worship me, lol. they would buy me drinks, give me gifts, and invite me to parties just so they could be in my presence and see how I interact with women. And then they would talk amongst themselves and speak glowingly about how ureactive my frame is. Basically I became a legend to men, lol

I think your problem is you are not a leader. When you become a leader of men and you are competent with women, they will all admire you As if you were a hero.

It’s a difference in inner game. For the shallow wanna be womanizer, even if he meets with a fair level of success or even much success, if his self worth derives from his notch count & he is externally validated by attention from women 2 things occur.

1. He tends to attract lower quality girls as a rule (who might be hot but have other liabilities)

2. He tends to hang out with other men who are similarly externally validated and thus in competition with him (and often this will be covert rather than overt). Hence the jealousy and the preening & the back stabbing behaviors.

The above man cares way to much how he is perceived by other men and his value is directly correlated to his success with women...mostly by volume.

Contrast that to a man with solid inner game. A man as described by @stormrider who is indifferent to women by volume & who rather picks and chooses whether a certain woman is worthy of his effort and investment.

Such a man is also impervious to the whims and jealousies of other men. He is indifferent to this as well so it does not affect him.

The indifference (otherwise known around here as IDGAF) permeates such a man’s vibe and is anchored in who he is at his core, which is internally validated and focused not on women as an end goal but on his own pursuits.

Externally validated men aspire to be internally validated solid guys and so they are drawn to men who exude this quality. It cannot be faked and the posers out there know it.

Hence the difference. Solid men with inner game are not going to be bothered by insecure externally validated attention seeking men anymore than they bother with attention w h o r e women. Solid men are going to interact with solid quality type women that the attention seeking men have trouble pulling.

Thus the dynamic Stormrider observes. My guess is Atom Smasher & Glassguy & Guru1000 have similar experiences for all exhibit solid inner game as demonstrated by the content and perspectives posted on SS.