Brace yourselves (controversial)

[Epic Days]

I have no anger dude, nor did I call you an incel. My retort was based on how I understood your post. It's has a very dim one sided view that, may be what you've experiece and believe, but not (yet) the norm. Could this happen in the future? Of course, but I do not see it on a mass scale.

You are entitled to your thoughts and ideas. I don’t tell others what to think. I merely pointed out the obvious. Or what was obvious to me for some time. Research had to catch up to me.

If a man lives with a woman or sees her too often, her desire will wain and there’s not one damn thing she can do about it. It also has absolutely nothing to do with you either. Well, you could accelerate it or set yourself up to be her safe and secure launching platform to hunt other men of course.

 

[Epic Days]

No offence to anyone's game but woman bored with her fiancée's/husband's/boyfriends are often easy targets - I do capitalise on this fact as well, but it has nothing to do with being alpha - I'd say it's connected with corrosion of fiance/husband/boyfriend game/beta-isation of that guy rather than proof of your own alpha status. Thinking it's the second is delusional.

I really didn’t see any man use the word alpha except maybe a passive nerd or two.

I don’t use the word.

 

[Kotaix]

Make no mistake, hubby is the alpha, that's why he was chosen

This is by no means universal. Dominant women will marry doormats and then fvck someone else.

 

[Epic Days]

This is by no means universal. Dominant women will marry doormats and then fvck someone else.

Yeah that is so false data that the husband is “alpha”.

Disclaimer: I don’t use the word alpha.

 

[metalwater]

This is the way I see it... It's easier to get women who are in relationships with boring men. All you need to do is be more interesting than the average beta and you can fvck pretty much any woman who's in a relationship. They're appreciative of the experience because it's not part of their daily lives, nor has it been part of their relationship.

There are exceptions to the women you can fvck, but they're going to be far and few inbetween. If a woman was low-mileage when she met her man and they've been together for fvcking ever, you won't be able to penetrate that. Women who haven't been alpha-widowed and have never rode the c0ck carousel are the ones who are faithful to their men.

would you expand on this idea. it sounds like your are telling that there is an exception path to every girl goes bad.

 

[Desdinova]

would you expand on this idea. it sounds like your are telling that there is an exception path to every girl goes bad.

You have to be the guy who will alpha-widow them. You need to get in before any of the other guys. Unfortunately, a large proportion of women who are alpha-widowed have either already been alpha'ed by the time they're 18, or are in the process of being alpha'ed. When a woman gets alpha'ed, that's when she becomes permanently damaged.

In the last two years, I've watched three women (friends of my GF) become alpha-widowed. They've all gone crazy to some degree. One started collecting cats, one covered her body with tattoos and declared herself as a lesbian, and another is planning a tattoo and won't shut up on social media about how heartbroken she's been for the past year.

For women, one-itis is a terminal disease.

 

[Desdinova]

And, by far, without exception, the women who stay with their first husbands, to death, are far happier and less crazy than the ones who decided they wanted to be Mary Tyler-Moore or whatever, because the TV told them divorce was cool. There isn't even a comparison. Its truly sad.

It's a real eye-opener, isn't it? From the point where I discovered this, it really changed my perception of dating and having committed relationships. I kept wanting to give women the benefit of the doubt and really believe that they had been "done wrong" for all of their 20s, but they never failed to prove that they were permanently damaged. It's only by dating younger, low-mileage women that I discovered that it hasn't always been this way for women.

I really do feel bad for them. They are biologically designed to only have one man.

 

[Spaz]

I really do feel bad for them. They are biologically designed to only have one man.

In a sense u r absolutely correct.

Women were designed to follow a singularity and that singularity must provide them with a doable worldview or life story that provides redemption.

If the man can't then at the very minimum he needs to divert her towards religion, something that's infinitely more powerful then his life story or worldview to keep his relationship with her through the years.

It acts like an anchor for women.

 

[Jager]

I’m finally getting around to this post. It is intended to crash and cave in a lot of paradigms here on SS. Perhaps it’s time to fully explain The Feminine Imperative and the goal.

The goal is to execute a survival strategy that enhances and promotes the survival of the human race with genetic variation. When it comes to breeding a woman is a birthing machine.

OVERVIEW: A woman secures a stable platform from which to operate and execute her breeding strategy. It is, for the most part, below her level of awareness. She just knows how she feels and is driven to action through her biological mechanisms.

Once she has secured a boyfriend/husband, she now has a platform of security. From this platform she can execute her breeding strategy. She will hunt and secure sex from optimized men. From the start, she is aware on some level that the man for a “relationship” is manipulated and secured for this platform. Your susceptibility to manipulation is what makes you her provider. If you actually want a full time girlfriend or wife, you are a platform. Her cuck. Her stooge. You have actually altered your DNA outcomes to be this man via the way you think and the environment where you came from. This is called epi-genetics. You have it in you to be an optimized man but you have been engineered socially.

This is where I come in and fuk her. The best women are in “relationships” for the very purpose to fuk me and men like me. Yes, if I offer more protection and better survival opportunity she will monkey branch to me, providing I can be manipulated into it.
The best women are the monkey branchers. They are way more intimate and give the best part of themselves to me and men like me. I get to see her best side and her most intimate side. She does way more sexual things with me than you. You will never see that side of her.

You are the one setting it up. She is more secure, more purposeful by being with you. More mentally stable. It allows her to fuk the men she is driven to. These women are the highest quality in many cases. The connections I get with her are far more deeper than with you. They are fantastic. In all my memories of the women I’ve been with, the ones with boyfriends and husbands have been the best memories with the best connections. When she has her emotional puppy/provider she will express her best self with me. The very second, in a tenth of a second, that I want to secure her for a mate? I am no longer an optimized male in her biological eyes. If I do this, I better be offering her more resources than the platform she is presently with or in the trash can I go.

Those single mothers and single women out there you are trying to get? They are the low hanging fruit. Piss on single women.

The feminine imperative is:
1) secure a provider. Either emotionally or in resources.
2) to manipulate and hold him in place while she executes her sexual imperative. Fuk all the men who make her biology fire on all circuits. Genetically encoded.
3) if I offer better survival and I can be manipulated, branch to me. Then start the process all over again until she is used up and is no longer an optimum child bearer.

This is why 2 out of every ten people you see in the world, their father is not who they think it is.

How you think and how you have been programmed makes you the stooge. It also gives me a lot of opportunities to fuk high quality women.

So when the sex drops out or decreases, and it will, bank on it, just know that it will cause you to invest even more. This in itself will hold you in place for security while I fuk her blind.

What do you think about that? It’s a nice set up for me. Thank you for wanting to be a boyfriend or husband.

It’s the truth. This is the way things are. It’s actually good that she does this. It ensures the survival of offspring, and its keeps the gene pool diversified and mixed, so that evolution can take place.

I don’t see a problem with anything @Epic Days said. Matter of fact, a guy should be happy that he’s nailing these women, straight up balls deeping her. He’s doing his part to make the genetic line stronger. Fukking some guy’s wife or girlfriend is only morally wrong if you consider what society taught you to be true. The way I see it, a guy spreading his genetics around is giving a boon to the gene pool. It’s actually the most positive thing you can do, because it’s what a man was designed for (the unlimited supply of sperm). It’s like I’ve said before:

Because we live in a modern society, it’s easy to forget that genetics and biology are still running in the background.

Women who have nailed down a provider cuck will sleep around with men that are very private, the guys that don’t go around talking about it, specifically so that they CAN act on their biology. It’s all about acquiring the best genetics, then making sure her kids are going to survive via the provider. Women are going to act on their biology. In fact, I want her to. That sexual strategy has ensured the survival of humanity, in terms of genetics.

There comes a point, within the context of sex, when you have to stop pretending you’re living in anything other than primal society. It may be 2019, but as far as biology is concerned it’s still the primordial wild, and the only thing biology cares about is the continued survival of our species. Let women act on their sexual urges. I’ll be there to give her what she wants, fukk her hard, then send her on her way. And I don’t care if she’s in a relationship.

 

[Jager]

You're missing the point. "Hypergamy" is about survival of the fittest, not evolution. Evolution is about environmental pressure, not genetic diversity. Promiscuity isn't what makes evolution happen. If anything, promiscuity, for a woman, is about finding a fertile partner. It's no more complicated than that. She isn't trying to be Darwin's test tube. No-one is concerned about propagating the species at the expense of his own DNA. Just the opposite. We only propagate the species to ensure the survival of our own DNA.

What you just spouted, there, was some "diversity=strength" Orwellian PC sciency drivel.

Least sexy pickup line ever:
"C'mon, baby! Drop them panties, and let's make some EVOLUTION happen!"

Hmm. Looks like you’re hunting for an argument. I guess Epic Days struck a nerve.

 

[Jager]

I wouldn't have put it exactly THAT way, but I certainly welcome a discussion over any statements you've taken exception to. I don't take disagreement personally. It isn't healthy.

Fair enough. If I agreed with your position I would’ve said as much.

 

[Spaz]

extra points for sportsmanship!

I actually think that epic days is on the right track in his opening statement, but that he's still too emotionally involved, due to his personal history, to fully grasp the why of the matter, yet. he isn't alone in this. our entire Society has politicized sex to the point that, in true marxian fashion , we have been taught to deny our biological reality.

in a misguided attempt to make sense of our current situation, many leaders of the manosphere have identified hypergamy as the female genetic defect which interferes with long-term human pair bonding. the problem with this interpretation is that the only defect is in our contemporary mating rituals, which perfectly exemplify the axiomatic Chinese curse, via the manifestation of male adolescent wish-fulfillment. we have achieved maximum intercourse with minimum fertility, and now Western Civilization is truly fvcked.

The belief in hypergamy is merely a coping mechanism for a subset of men, it helps them to make sense of their worldview.

At the same time, the belief in hypergamy also empowers women and disadvantages men on a large scale.

It's best you remove hypergamy from ur line of thinking.

 

[Epic Days]

And yet through it all the world continues to make its harsh realities more palatable.
The women aren’t being cheaters or participating in infidelity.
They are executing their biological strategy.

I’ve accepted it. There’s nothing to be gained by reconstructing or rearranging words to make it sound different or less offensive.
If you live with her, her desire will wain and there’s nothing she can do about it. The vast majority, up to 99.99% will seek desire elsewhere and still stay or try to stay which their provider. Monogamy is a foundation of building civilization within its social construct. But it is an unworkable strategy. The feminine imperative has always been in the background running its course.
This directs us back to the advanced wisdom of Ester Vilar. Man are highly manipulated. He now believes that a woman gives him purpose or a reason to excel.

Words like hypergamy and alpha are words that I don’t use. If I borrow them and use them, a reader will extrapolate, based on his previous understanding using those words and jumble the concept of desire up. Desire is the mechanism to get women to breed.

You kill a man’s children his life becomes effectively over in his mind whereas the woman will easily re-marry and produce more.

 

[Epic Days]

How many children did you have with your cheating EX?

You were nearly there. Now, you simply need to ruminate on exactly how a woman's reproductive imperative is distinct from a man's. Then, you will understand that you have painted a romance novel(fem porn) gloss over the societal normalization of sterile mating. You can refer to it as looking for love, if it makes it more palatable, but there really is no evolutionary purpose to romantic love outside of reproduction.

LMAO. I don’t fall in love. I don’t know how many children I have overall. I have four here in the states.
So now you make it about me?
That’s right. Shoot the messenger. If you have evidence otherwise...

 

[Spaz]

Women aren't Seed Collectors, but Mate Selectors. A man can cast his seed into a thousand barren wombs, with no permanent ill effects. A woman who mates with a thousand sterile men will be driven mad.

This is true.

 

[Epic Days]

This is true.

Indeed it’s true. Women are definitely mate collectors. This was never the discussion. They collect mates based on her level of desire or her opportunistic faculties.

This discussion is about desire and how if you live together or she is your one and only, her desire will wain. Throughout this entire thread I have repeatedly agreed and have had agreements down the line with @ShePays. Review the thread.

I still don’t know what his disagreement is. I think it’s just about arguing or something.

 

[Spaz]

How many children did you have with your cheating EX?

You were nearly there. Now, you simply need to ruminate on exactly how a woman's reproductive imperative is distinct from a man's. Then, you will understand that you have painted a romance novel(fem porn) gloss over the societal normalization of sterile mating. You can refer to it as looking for love, if it makes it more palatable, but there really is no evolutionary purpose to romantic love outside of reproduction.

In simpler terms, everything a woman does will revert back to their basic programming which is the feminine imperative.

The feminine imperative = a biological drive of women for their safety and survival (incl. lifestyles) for themselves 1st and only then of their offspring.

If you think deeply about it, every single thing a woman does falls into that.

 

[Spaz]

Indeed it’s true. Women are definitely mate collectors. This was never the discussion. They collect mates based on her level of desire or her opportunistic faculties.

This discussion is about desire and how if you live together or she is your one and only, her desire will wain. Throughout this entire thread I have repeatedly agreed and have had agreements down the line with @ShePays. Review the thread.

I still don’t know what his disagreement is. I think it’s just about arguing or something.

It's okay for people to challenge ur views or ideas, that's how both you and them will surpass their limits.

Right here and right now, it is happening.

 

[Epic Days]

In simpler terms, everything a woman does will revert back to their basic programming which is the feminine imperative.

The feminine imperative = a biological drive of women for their safety and survival (incl. lifestyles) for themselves 1st and only then of their offspring.

If you think deeply about it, every single thing a woman does falls into that.

That’s all she does. There’s nothing complex or mysterious about a woman.

 

[Epic Days]

It's okay for people to challenge ur views or ideas, that's how both you and them will surpass their limits.

Right here and right now.

I’m ok with disagreement. I can address or ignore. But to have a disagreement without an antithesis Or clearly defined diametrically opposed position is like talking to a communist. Lol
There must be a purpose. The disagreement is tactically undisclosed.