Do people still believe in 'game'?

[corrector]

No, it is like people using online job search instead of going in person to drop their resumes. and just like hiring managers no longer read all the resume but use keyword filters to weed out the unqualified. same thing women doing to filter men, they are quickly to judge the man by little indicators they notice without giving him a chance.

It does not sound like the same thing and sounds like apples and oranges. I remember back in 2005 you had this Payton Kane, Seduce & Conquor, and he was a dating guru, and even back then, this guru as well as the prevailing thought was that internet dating for men simply doesn't work. The question that I really don't get is how or why do you think men are more successful at online dating than 2005 or any year around then? I personally started online dating, in earnest in 2006 and quit around 2016. From what I see here it doesn't look like any guy trying out online dating are happy campers and women simply go for Chads/Chadlites.

So, it goes back to my analogy, if less people are using online job searches because nobody is hiring them and they got tired then that could bring the unemployment rate down because less people are going online, but it doesn't mean they found a full-time job and are working. Some people may be underemployed, be underpaid, or find a really crappy job. Your own analogy portrays women as the ones who are hiring, not men. Even in the parameters of your analogy the one who is doing the hiring is successful at online dating, not the one who is presenting themselves to be hired.

Their mass approaching tactics brought some negative attention to them, now any guy hitting on girls in malls especially in Toronto, the security will warn him to leave as they think he is doing mass approaching. Some malls even threaten to call police on any PUA activity.

Right, so that means more people are becoming MTGOW monk-mode, incel or fapping to porn or doing something else rather than approaching. You can't translate that to more people using online dating. Even when PUA was on its hayday, if given a choice between approaches and going online, people would choose to go online. PUA gets traction because online doesn't work for guys. If both options do not work then nothing happens and you have these protest groups in the manosphere.

 

[corrector]

This was posted 4 months ago. The comment section of the video is even more interesting than the video itself. Only one commentator in the page said it was because of Tyler's looks. The preponderance of comments seems that people viewing the video do not believe that game is R.I.P. dead - which means there is still plenty of red-pill thought considering the recent post of this video.

 

[Dust 2 Dust]

They would also have something called “plowing” where the guy who force himself to (remain inset and) keep talking (loudly) even when the group of girls were clearly ignoring him.

That’s “Overstaying your welcome” and wasting time at best and borderline harassment at worst.

I did that plowing technique once in my younger days after seeing it advised by David D'Angelo. Never again.

 

[zekko]

This was posted 4 months ago.

This is why I get suspicious of some of these videos. Not 35 seconds in, and the girl is saying "I love you" to Tyler, a guy she has never met before. This is incredibly common in these pickup videos. I can buy her being attracted, but they always seem to say "I love you". Makes me think they're getting paid, or are hookers or something. That particular girl is most certainly drunk. Is he picking up girls in front of a bar or a club? I know he likes to do that.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

"Game" is simply strategy. Understanding the targets, understanding the environment, understanding the social norms. Understanding the situation. Understanding the bs females are falling for. How is that bad?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Even a 40 year old virgin type still thinks he has an opinion on engaging women.

Reading op's posts obvious troll (honestly awful), he's going on about all sorts of procedures like leg lengthening, facial reconstruction and all sorts. That's his "game". Everyone has one.

Women choose. If a man is fat and doesnt give a shyt and gets fit as fvck and cares about his life some additional bytchez will want him. There IS some play involved. And if your conversational skills turn them off that can be corrected. So dont be doom and gloom.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I can seriously only assume that the game-deniers have never fvcked up a sure thing.

Game is the nuclear bomb.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It's relevant. Let's put it that way.

Its huge. Its like having the correct social awareness for the environment your in.

 

[evan12]

The question that I really don't get is how or why do you think men are more successful at online dating than 2005 or any year around then?

If you limit online dating to hookup websites like Tender and POF , then you are right , most women when they are looking for hookup is only looking for that hot sexy fun guy. Therefore most men fail here. However online dating now contain social media websites like FB , LinkedIn, etc. Beside some serious dating websites like E-Harmoney. The later ones contain women looking for settling down and they have lower standards than the first group of hookup. I cant count how many men around me found their partner via these websites especially FB, usually they start by adding them as friend then they continue from there. I am not saying men are doing very good online , but at least the decent ones are in the end finding someone.

Right, so that means more people are becoming MTGOW monk-mode, incel or fapping to porn or doing something else rather than approaching.

Correct, men who are not able to get a mate online either because they cant represent themselves good or because they are not good enough for the standards of women, their self esteem get a hit and they abandon the idea of women.

but it doesn't mean they found a full-time job and are working.

I think the new philosophy for a lot of people is if I cant make it online , it is not worth to try offline.

 

[zekko]

I never liked the word "game". It just sounds like an adolescent way to say you have social savvy. Honestly, the terminology for pickup circles is the worst of any field that I've ever seen. Whoever came up with it all is messed up.
"Nice guys" aren't nice.
"Jerks" and "@sshole" are not jerky or @sshole-y.
Who the heck actually uses the word "kino"?

 

[ElCheapo]

"Game" is a wishful thinking cult religion for incels that were never destined to be the slaying Chad they always dreamt of being.

Selling Game is great for parting fools with their money. Then again a fool isn't meant to keep his money

 

[Epicwinguy]

My understanding of game at this point is:
Go out and be social
If you happen to meet a girl you think is hot chat her up
Present yourself as a fun high value guy
Make your intentions known (not in a creepy way)
Escalate, see if you can pull or at least get her number
If she's not interested no big deal move on to the next

 

[corrector]

Make your intentions known (not in a creepy way)

I think that is the part where everything falls apart. If you are not attractive to her...then it's creepy.

 

[Mike32ct]

I think that is the part where everything falls apart. If you are not attractive to her...then it's creepy.

Agreed. I guess the risk of being seen as creepy has to be managed by limiting and spacing out the approaches (to stay more under the radar).

If the guy isn’t good looking, he can’t do lots of approaches aggressively in rapid PUA fashion.

He’s has to resort to “guerrilla warfare” of sorts. Approach and then back off/disappear and then maybe try again later with another female.

He can’t risk getting ostracized at his favorite venue or social circle. So talk to one female. If she rejects him, fine. Then take a break and maybe talk to another next time.

 

[ElCheapo]

Chad IS "game". anything else is cope. / thread

 

[captain55]

Game is everything. You need to be at least a 5/10 to bang a hot girl but game is still everything

 

[Epicwinguy]

I think that is the part where everything falls apart. If you are not attractive to her...then it's creepy.

And whats the worse thing that can happen if she does think you are creepy? Its a numbers game after all.

 

[ElCheapo]

We much as I ****ing hate that term and find it hilarious it’s true. You can be self developed all you want but when that frat boy or foot ball star comes in belligerent drunk and out of his mind all your readings will go out the window as he swoops in and takes your girl

"Game" brainwashes it's followers to copeville by having them believe that somehow its harnessed "power" will magically put them in the position of having any and every woman they desire be receptive (if ever) to even give an iota of a care about their fairy dust spells.

That is what "game" is sold to $uckers who want to believe they can just "be chad" if they pray to game and practice their religion enough instead of actually being Chad himself.


And when they fail over and over again because they aren't and will never be the chad that the vast majority of women want? The faithful get told they just "aren't doing game right" to ensure the same fools keep parting with their money.

 

[Epicwinguy]

So will careermaxxing and fitnessmaxxing only ever impress ugly dirty old 45 year old women later in life? (Obviously in addition to improving these other aspects of your life.)

 

[ElCheapo]

Why aren't PUAs and game believers sold as heart throb posters to women? Is the market for those items drier than mars?


I mean since many puas / gamers get touted by other MEN as some sort of demigod, poon slaying legends, shouldn't posters of them be lining women of the world's bedrooms to wet dream about instead of the 8 pack sporting fitness model chads, hunky actors, and pro sport figures?