Age May Matter for a Man when procuring young girls

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This makes much more sense. Biology and inspiration rules over social programming. Even if she has to sneak away to the hotel room so she doesn’t get shamed.
Which is why you can sometimes see some short fat middle aged dude with some hottie at his arm that has that adoring look in her eyes when they're in deep conversations or just walking by.
 

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Which is why you can sometimes see some short fat middle aged dude with some hottie at his arm that has that adoring look in her eyes when they're in deep conversations or just walking by.
So she admired this particular heaviset man
 

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So she admired this particular heaviset man
It's the power he projected and wields that lures many women to such a man.

You can look like a youthful Greek God, have money, have the best looking sports car, social status and I can assure you, that an older man who walks, talks and breaths power will easily have even your wife attracted to him.

She can't help but be attracted.
 

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When i was 18, and a freshman in college, A LOT of the girls had grown ass men they were seeing who were close to 30

And when I was in high school a lot of the girls were getting pounded out by older men with cars. When I was 18-23, there were so many girls I'd talk to who would say things like "im used to talking to older guys, who know how to fix cars and do work around the house".

They would put guys their age down for not knowing how to change oil lol. So don't let that one chick define all young girls preference. A lot of them are fast as hell
 

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I visited my old college campus about a month ago while I was on my hiatus from here. I made 3 cold approaches to girls walking throughout the campus and went 0 for 3. The first approach really made me feel weird though...

I smiled and commented about something she was was wearing and then introduced myself. Then the convo went something like this
Me: Are you single :)
Her: How old are you?
Me: 28 (I lied through my teeth but that wasn't even good enough(
Her: I'm only 19
Me: ohhh I had no idea, nice meeting you

Now I obviously played that wrong at the end there... but the way she said it was in a 'this is not cool" kind of vibe. The fact that she had to ask my age first also makes me think it matters to young girls. I just felt weird when she said it too, like something wasn't right....
Im 49 banging a 19 year old
 

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I know when I was 18-22 I thought older guys in their 30s and 40s were creepy AF.
Generally speaking, most younger women will have an "Eww, old guy" reaction to the thought of older men. However, even for these girls, there are exceptions. I would wager nearly all those girls would be able to name an older man that they consider hot, even if it's just a celebrity. Point is, if you're the right guy, the age won't matter.
 

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Which is why you can sometimes see some short fat middle aged dude with some hottie at his arm that has that adoring look in her eyes when they're in deep conversations or just walking by.
It's because he's a john like you are lol.
 

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Generally speaking, most younger women will have an "Eww, old guy" reaction to the thought of older men. However, even for these girls, there are exceptions. I would wager nearly all those girls would be able to name an older man that they consider hot, even if it's just a celebrity. Point is, if you're the right guy, the age won't matter.
Teenagers will still bang Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise.
 

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Generally speaking, most younger women will have an "Eww, old guy" reaction to the thought of older men. However, even for these girls, there are exceptions. I would wager nearly all those girls would be able to name an older man that they consider hot, even if it's just a celebrity. Point is, if you're the right guy, the age won't matter.
I agree. In high school my varsity soccer coach was hot. HOT. He was happily married to my English teacher (she was very fit & pretty). So a number of us thought our coach was attractive and he was in his 40s.

Don’t misunderstand what I’m saying, and if you are an outlier through looks, power or whatever that’s great, you will have better results, and that’s what folks around here aspire to.

The oil & gas businessman I met the other night was a powerful man AND a high status, high class man.

But I come from an affluent background and do well myself. So I’m accustomed to that type of man. Attraction & desire are important to me. I did not have any desire whatsoever toward him. He was educated, interesting, cultured, sophisticated, powerful etc. He was too old. Period.

I’m older, obviously but I’m an outlier myself. When 20 something year old bouncers check my ID (and see my birth year), and they do a double take & say “No Way, WOW” I just smile.

I have no issue attracting younger men. My BF is younger by 2 years (and very handsome).

Generally I’d rather date someone my own age or a little older. This current relationship is the first one with someone younger, and he isn’t much younger at all. I’ve been out with men who are 5 years younger, but much beyond that I lose interest. I require a man who can lead me and therefore someone with a similar amount of life experience.

So all the assumptions about me being unattractive are silly.

That avatar is me. My current BF took the photo...so it’s recent. ;)
 

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But there seems to be a wide spread belief in the manosphere that men will always be able to pull young girls no matter how old they are. How many 45+ year olds (excluding sex tourists, expats in poor countries, and sugar daddies) are actually dating hot 19/20/21 year old girls regularly?

Really is it any surprise if a random 19yr old girl doesn’t want to f**k a much older man?
Excellent point this fascade that men can just bag young girls is a myth unless your really good looking/status or an x factor (local celebrity etc) for your age
Or your tricking and trying to pass it off as game.

Most young women wanna be with men their age.
 

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Excellent point this fascade that men can just bag young girls is a myth unless your really good looking/status or an x factor (local celebrity etc) for your age
Or your tricking and trying to pass it off as game.

Most young women wanna be with men their age.
I agree 110%. However we do have some posters here (glassguy,guru) able to pull it off.

For the 40 year old 30 and up is fair game. Some of those had decided they prefer older and wiser by that point as long as they are physically attracted.
 

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I agree 110%. However we do have some posters here (glassguy,guru) able to pull it off.

For the 40 year old 30 and up is fair game. Some of those had decided they prefer older and wiser by that point as long as they are physically attracted.
there's always exception to the rule...that's the goal here to be above average
 

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I agree 110%. However we do have some posters here (glassguy,guru) able to pull it off.
You take them at their word? These guys lie about their age. They are far older than they claim. If they're lying about their age, it's a fair bet they're lying about their dating and sex lives as well.

For the 40 year old 30 and up is fair game. Some of those had decided they prefer older and wiser by that point as long as they are physically attracted.
It's not really like they have a choice: women who are 30+ have a hard time attracting men close in age. Men who are 35 and under want to date women in their 20's. So of course women who are 30+ are dating older men. They are forced to due to a lack of options.
 

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You take them at their word? These guys lie about their age. They are far older than they claim. If they're lying about their age, it's a fair bet they're lying about their dating and sex lives as well.



It's not really like they have a choice: women who are 30+ have a hard time attracting men close in age. Men who are 35 and under want to date women in their 20's. So of course women who are 30+ are dating older men. They are forced to due to a lack of options.
The guys their age will only fvck them. Because they are still on the market for a reason.
 
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Excellent point this fascade that men can just bag young girls is a myth unless your really good looking/status or an x factor (local celebrity etc) for your age
Or your tricking and trying to pass it off as game.

Most young women wanna be with men their age.
Yeah. There’s always exceptions to the norm of course but I liken this to the delusion that some women have that guys will overlook 50 extra pounds if she’s a nice person. And guys get shamed for not living up to that delusion like he doesn’t know what a good woman is, that kind of ego soothing crap.

Also the only women who are truly bent if a man their age attracts young girls are the women who are struggling with dating anyway. Older women who are having success with men don’t seem to get hung up over the occasional guy who is dating someone 20 years younger. Those women are not hurting for business anyway.

But if an older man can attract young girls and has his pick of women his age, it’s the best of both worlds for him. It’s just not the norm and doesn’t mean that the average older man is left with nothing. Lots of average looking men find decent women and vis versa.
 
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I think demographics is important when discussing age. A 19 year old could possibly have never been to a bar before. She could be sheltered and used to little boys. Once she hits that 21 year old demographic, she's going to realize that a man is someone with a career, his own place, a car, social life, higher purpose, etc. 19 year olds think 6 pack abs are impressive. It's not hard to impress them. But you are also more likely to activate their cognitive dissonance as an older man. Her body might say yes but her socially conditioned mind might tell her no because her friends are biased. But once the real world hits her like a ton of bricks and she has to pay her own rent, she's going to realize real quick what real value looks like. And it's not about being cool.

Even as a guy in my 30's, I get qualified by 21 year old women on my career and social status. Believe it or not, they would not have dated me if I was 21 and still in college. They might have slept with me if there was attraction, but they wouldn't take me seriously.

Men and women do not have the same internal clocks. When a woman is 21, she is in her absolute prime. And she is vetting for a prime man. Most 23 year old guys are still trying to figure themselves out. A guy doesn't hit his prime until he is about 27. Some guys don't have everything figured out until 30.

So 27-30 year old man = 21 year old woman, roughly.

However, because men can get better with age, a 40 year old man can have just as much value if not more than a 27 year old man. We are not judged on our ability to bear children, so we can't lose value just for getting older.
You’re right about men not being judged on their ability to bear children, but it doesn’t change the fact that women typically choose to marry and have children with men closer to their own age.


However the average hot 21 year old in her prime is not likely looking for a husband or provider. She has her choice of the hot young buff guy for parties and marathon sex and the older guy with some class and some cash for mature dates and sexual technique. She has the highest SMV out of everyone. And she knows it. She’s not likely to be vetting for one prime man, she’s going to be vetting for prime MEN. Because she can. And at 21, she’s not likely going to care if he has it all sorted out. Women that age typically aren’t looking to settle with one guy anyway so being a stable Joe with a good job won’t impress her as much as being youthful but having some class, maturity that her male peers won’t have, and the money to show her a good time that males her age can’t afford. And he has to look good too. Women have eyes and young women are way more into looks than older women.
 

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Thing is, despite the assertions of the women posting here, it's common knowledge amongst men that young women are attracted to men in their 30's or 40's. Provided they have their shiet together.

Most men in that age group is already married or snatched up and off the market for many young women.

Then they're left with either single men who has been single for most of their lives, considered losers and a very small subset that's still playing the field.

Any man that puts work into himself can and will attract young women because there's a huge market out there in need of a man that has his shiet together.

If u r fat, no problem, go on a diet.

If u hv small shoulders or skinny, no problem, go to the gym, work on it.

If u r balding, no problem, shave ur entire head, get a good tan going, build ur body up and carry yourself well with confidence.

I'm sure there's a ton of other problems a man might face with getting young women, the thing is, ur smv as a man can and must be worked on, that's the good news.

A woman's smv is fixed by nature and declines from age 16 onwards, any other narrative put forth is pure lies by the feminine imperative to entrapped a man to forgo young women and start viewing older women as quality.

Work on yourself guys.
 

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Thing is, despite the assertions of the women posting here, it's common knowledge amongst men that young women are attracted to men in their 30's or 40's. Provided they have their shiet together.

Most men in that age group is already married or snatched up and off the market for many young women.

Then they're left with either single men who has been single for most of their lives, considered losers and a very small subset that's still playing the field.

Any man that puts work into himself can and will attract young women because there's a huge market out there in need of a man that has his shiet together.

If u r fat, no problem, go on a diet.

If u hv small shoulders or skinny, no problem, go to the gym, work on it.

If u r balding, no problem, shave ur entire head, get a good tan going, build ur body up and carry yourself well with confidence.

I'm sure there's a ton of other problems a man might face with getting young women, the thing is, ur smv as a man can and must be worked on, that's the good news.

A woman's smv is fixed by nature and declines from age 16 onwards, any other narrative put forth is pure lies by the feminine imperative to entrapped a man to forgo young women and start viewing older women as quality.

Work on yourself guys.
That's what I think the issue really is. Expired women loosing to the younger women. So socially shame younger women. It's a western culture thing to be closer to the same age. It doesn't exist in the rest of the world. As western civilization is failing, this could be one of many things causing it. These older women should be with husbands and raising kids. If we want that type of civilization. Otherwise just say.."We will never marry a man." But evidently that doesn't work. They still feel the need to get a plow horse to do most of the work.
It no longer or will ever apply to me again in the way the imperative wants it to be.
 
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