Did I do the right thing?

Poonstra

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So I met this Brazilian girl on tinder, just about a year ago. Altho we have a bit different interests, we get along pretty great and start dating about twice a week. The sex was really good and she never denied it, in fact, it was usually the first thing we did when we saw each other.

About 6-7 weeks in we were sitting on my couch and had my laptop near. She upfronted some money, so I tell her to give her bank account number so I can refund her. She makes a fuss about it and says she wants it cash. I press the point and she says she doesn't have one.
I put two and two together and ask her if shes illegal in my country, she is. I don't care, I like the girl so we continue forward.

She has two kids, a boy 15 and a girl 17. They live in an apartment where they share a room. In the apartment also live her two sisters, one of which has has another 2 kids. Over where I live, kids can go to school, even if they don't have a legal status.

I never bring up her being illegal, and around the 6 month mark the inevitable question comes, if I can help her obtain a legal status. The girl turns 18 in about 6 months, and from that point on she can't go to school anymore. I say I'll think about it.
Two weeks later I get a text, the police got her (it was a unfortunate series of events that let to her getting chaught) and they are taking her to the station, here she stays until she can be identified. Here illegals are presented with an option, if they choose to leave the country on their own they get 4 weeks that they can use to get their affairs in order, and they can spend that time in freedom.

Of course by this time there's an emotional attachment, I promise to help her get back once she and her kids are back in Brazil.
On the day that she had to leave the country I take them to the airport, where we have to report to an office of the military police, and from there she's put on a plane. I took it pretty bad seeing her and her kids getting escorted through security by two MP's.

The first three weeks without her were pretty bad. When there used to be someone and now their gone, that leaves a void.
I start doing research about the procedures which are necessary to get the three of them back here, while she studies for to test that she has to do as a part of her coming back. I discover that there are some serious legal consequences for me if I bring them over. I have to provide housing and I have to guaranty all medical costs to a maximum of 10K a year for 5 years for the 3 of them, so in a worst case scenario I cloud go down 150.000 Euro. If it doesn't work I'll be responsible to make sure they get back.

Last month I go over to them on vacation. I spend a week in Rio with her, and two more weeks with her and her kids. She has a house there but it was ofcourse nothing much. I've met her kids when they were here, but didn't spend much time with them, they are teenagers and do there own thing. One of the things I wanted to do there was see if I fit in this family and feel if there is a way that this could work. I wasn't feeling it, they were pretty nice to me but also not super warm. The 17 year old girl managed to not ask me a single question in the time I was there.

So last week i get back home, and had a hard time making up my mind. Last Friday I decide to call her and tell her I don't see this working. I think she saw this coming by her reaction.
I pretty much think I know how you guys will answer, but did I do the right thing? Couse I feel like sh!t. I feel like I'm letting them down in a big way.


Some other thoughts on this:
If it was her alone, perhaps I could do it, but all the risks are being put on my plate, if those kids cause damage it's gonna be my problem.

I do think she genuinely liked me, witch makes this pretty hard. Sh!t test were at a minimum and she was honest about her situation.

If she wouldn't have asked me to help 2 weeks before she got caught, I might have done it. Now I feel she was planning this, she had one year to find a man and get her hooks into him.

She never made problems or asked for money.

If I wouldn't have promissed to help them they might not have left. I feel that I let them on and feel bad about this.
 

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I think the real question here is what was the booty saying though my g
 

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This is admittedly off the point, but:
Brazil isn't that bad of a place to live, is it? I'm just curious as to why someone would be so desperate to leave Brazil that they would come to the US illegally. What's the big attraction?
 

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This is admittedly off the point, but:
Brazil isn't that bad of a place to live, is it? I'm just curious as to why someone would be so desperate to leave Brazil that they would come to the US illegally. What's the big attraction?
LOL

It’s a third world country bro.

My favourite film: City of God (Cidade de Deus) it’s a top 5 film of all of all time based in the favelas if Brasil. I implore everyone who hasn’t to watch
 

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Brazil is a wasteland, a violent, filthy crime-infested rat hole. Don't mistake the isolated tourist attractions for the actual country.
 

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Oh my man. She stayed in the U.S. illegally, she can come back in 10 years. Unless of course you marry her ass and bring her over, which you are not going to do, retard lul!
 

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It's more a second world country.
U.S. illegally
I'm not in the US. That's why I mentioned Euros.
If I marry her over there the same rules and procedures apply as when we're unmarried, so there is no point in doing that.
 

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It's more a second world country.

I'm not in the US. That's why I mentioned Euros.
If I marry her over there the same rules and procedures apply as when we're unmarried, so there is no point in doing that.
Dependent what EU country you bring her to..

I hear sweden is the easiest, after 3 month living there, you can bring her back to your country.. if you marry.

Spain I belive is 26000 euro bank garantee on your account

Different imigration laws in each country
 

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I dont get it. How desperate do you have to be to start dating a single mom with two kids, illegally in your country, and then even think about sponsoring them? Single mom should be an automatic disqualifier, doesn't matter how hot or nice she is.
 

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I do understand people's point of view.. I don't know anything about this woman.

My last one, was married away at 16 yr old in an arranged marriage, because her mom left her at the grand parents. And they didn't have resurces enough to take care, so they married her away against her will. She was push'ed to sleep with this man and got pregnant. He turned out to be a drunk abusive, but came from a wealthy family aka. Had Face n status (outmost important in asia). She ended up divorcing him against all norms, and did bring her two kids up alone. After they left the nest she moved to europe to start a new life of her own.

So it was nothing to do with alpha fvcks, beta bucks..

I don't know about Brazil, but everybody don't come from the same living standards and conditions, childhood.

No we shouldn't save h0es, but f-ing heII I would not like to have lived the life of many of these women from around the world. Such rough living conditions. They didn't grow up with special privileges and female entitlement.. they where merely a commodity

Be careful compair 3 world countries (20 years ago). With our first world living conditions.

Take a trip to thailand, cambodia, vietnam, africa etc. On the real country side, go to the small villages and try living there. People today still live in something worthy to be chicken houses...

My biggest problem in childhood was doing home duties, to pay for all the gas on the motocross bike..

I don't say save this H0, I only say be careful compair their lives with your own.

I don't know, and don't care what he choose to do with this female
 

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I cloud go down 150.000 Euro
At this point I made up my mind.

"You better not have brought them to your country and risked $150K euro"

Yes, you made the right decision. You didn't like the situation so you bailed. Her kids are part of the deal, if you don't like them then don't deal with the situation.

Of course you feel like sh!t. She was your main squeeze for a year. You're going to feel this one for a little while. Stay strong. Push through.
 

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Only you can answer your question. But having said that, she does sound like a cool girl, but there are other cool girls out there. Girls who don't have two kids, and don't come with a $150000 Euro burden. When you move in with a woman, or marry her, or assume financial responsibility for her or her and her kids, it COMPLETELY changes the dynamic between you. You can't just walk away and she knows it. Now, she might be such a great woman that she won't deliberately take advantage of that fact, but it WILL change things. The risk is also much higher. You've only known her a short time in the grand scheme of things. If the relationship goes south for any reason, what then? You are trapped. Two people trapped together, resenting each other. Bad ending.

As I've aged and been married, divorced, dated, and learned, I have discovered the key to a good relationship is ensuring you can walk away with little or no financial or logistical penalty. And don't live together until you've been dating at least a couple years. And if you do move in, for gods sake dont buy a place together or have both names on the lease etc. My divorce was devastating emotionally. Luckily her name was on nothing, she moved out on her own, didn't take me to court, and I suffered absolutely zero logistical/financial penalties. I can't imagine how much worse the divorce would have been if I'd been dealing with financial/logistical issues in top of the emotional. Or worse yet, had to continue paying for her or her kids while watching her shack up with another dude.

Do not get yourself trapped in a situation. Do not sign a contract that makes you financially responsible for others.
 

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150000 € is too much... maybe this could be lowered by temporary moving within EU

Make health insurance for her and the kids that could cover your a$$

Prenup agreement is a absolut must!

Still it's a big risk..

Women / marriage is risk'y no matter what

Will she be forever greatfull or will she take your a$$ to the cleaner? 50/50 chance..
 

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This is admittedly off the point, but:
Brazil isn't that bad of a place to live, is it? I'm just curious as to why someone would be so desperate to leave Brazil that they would come to the US illegally. What's the big attraction?
Brazil is a third world country in many places and for much of the population.
 

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Dudes, this is months old, I haven't seen her in a long time, it is settled.
 

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unless your less than the 1% at the cassino.
Implying what? I got out of it without any financial, legal or health issues. If she was pregnant I would have known by now. Emotionally it was rough at the time but all is well now, I learnt a lot, that I will bring with me in my future endeavors.

Like I said, it was settled months ago.
 
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