Went out with the Spanish MILF again over the weekend

[sangheilios]

A lover of all women.

I have no interest in "loving" garbage women that have nothing to offer lol. Why the hell would I waste my time or associate with worthless *****s, druggies, alcoholics and those who behave like trash.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I already told you it's hard to find anything out here and that I'm aware of all this. It's like I'm repeating myself over and over and over lol.

Lover of all women. That incredibly tight and narrow standards while one isn't having success is not attractive. Make your adjustments. Get your dyck wet.

 

[sangheilios]

Lover of all women. That incredibly tight and narrow standards while one isn't having success is not attractive. Make your adjustments. Get your dyck wet.

So, a white male who is 6'4", broad shouldered, with a fit body who takes care of himself, who also doesn't do drugs, smoke or have an alcohol problem is supposed to lower his standards. I'm also college educated, going to physical therapy school, have money/financially stable and just a solid good guy all around.

I'm supposed to lower myself to garbage? Where the **** did you get that mindset from lol. I'm clearly a high quality male, why would I disrespect myself like that. I'm so worthless I'm supposed to date a druggie or some ugly fat girl that brings absolutely nothing to the table?

 

[allancc3]

So, a white male who is 6'4", broad shouldered, with a fit body who takes care of himself, who also doesn't do drugs, smoke or have an alcohol problem is supposed to lower his standards. I'm also college educated, going to physical therapy school, have money/financially stable and just a solid good guy all around.

I'm supposed to lower myself to garbage? Where the **** did you get that mindset from lol. I'm clearly a high quality male, why would I disrespect myself like that. I'm so worthless I'm supposed to date a druggie or some ugly fat girl that brings absolutely nothing to the table?

BigDave17 in the house! Basement dwelling troll for sure!

 

[backseatjuan]

She's playing you. You mentioned in your first post about her that she's a ho but no sex before marriage, as she is looking for citizenship. Idea was for you to get her to your home for a date, drinks, movie, escalation, sex. Not go along with her sht.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

So, a white male who is 6'4", broad shouldered, with a fit body who takes care of himself, who also doesn't do drugs, smoke or have an alcohol problem is supposed to lower his standards. I'm also college educated, going to physical therapy school, have money/financially stable and just a solid good guy all around.

I'm supposed to lower myself to garbage? Where the **** did you get that mindset from lol. I'm clearly a high quality male, why would I disrespect myself like that. I'm so worthless I'm supposed to date a druggie or some ugly fat girl that brings absolutely nothing to the table?

Exactly same viewpoint as bigdave17 and it isnt successful.

 

[sangheilios]

Exactly same viewpoint as bigdave17 and it isnt successful.

You have way more issues than I do if you think a decent guy that is having a hard time with dating should lower himself to dating trash. Who in their right mind would tell a guy in that position to go out with druggies, ugly girls, prostitutes, trash etc. You are saying that you should have absolutely no self respect and take anything that is available. You are saying that good guy is so worthless that he is only good enough for garbage females and doesn't deserve a good woman.

I'm obviously a good and high quality guy, why would I ever do something like that? I don't get it, seriously. I'm obviously a catch and a high quality man, why would I ever do that lol.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You have way more issues than I do if you think a decent guy that is having a hard time with dating should lower himself to dating trash. Who in their right mind would tell a guy in that position to go out with druggies, ugly girls, prostitutes, trash etc. You are saying that you should have absolutely no self respect and take anything that is available. You are saying that good guy is so worthless that he is only good enough for garbage females and doesn't deserve a good woman.

I'm obviously a good and high quality guy, why would I ever do something like that? I don't get it, seriously. I'm obviously a catch and a high quality man, why would I ever do that lol.

"Trash"? Those are people. That exact heavily negative viewpoint is killing you. Enjoy people and their varieties. I can see staying away from shady folks and ones heavu in the drug scene.

 

[allancc3]

You have way more issues than I do if you think a decent guy that is having a hard time with dating should lower himself to dating trash. Who in their right mind would tell a guy in that position to go out with druggies, ugly girls, prostitutes, trash etc. You are saying that you should have absolutely no self respect and take anything that is available. You are saying that good guy is so worthless that he is only good enough for garbage females and doesn't deserve a good woman.

I'm obviously a good and high quality guy, why would I ever do something like that? I don't get it, seriously. I'm obviously a catch and a high quality man, why would I ever do that lol.

Classic BigDave17 swerve! Whines about how pathetic (nonexistent) his sex/dating life is, elicits sympathy, then he attacks whoever tries to help him by offering constructive advice lol.

Watch this thread go to 300 posts.

Maintain your high standards, BigDave17! The Armenian Armed Forces needs you!

 

[BeExcellent]

Advice from the old lady:

Here's what the guys are really asking you. Did you kino during the date? Did you cozy up to her in the booth? Did you kiss her or steal a kiss from her? Graze her neck with your lips? Blow gently in her ear? Did you place your hand on her thigh? Did you physically touch her in any way to verify all the saucy things she was saying? Or were you polite and sat nicely across from her having a conversation? THAT is what the guys mean.

Latina women are from a touchy culture. The men are very machisimo. Men who are masculine are sexually forward and this is especially true of Latin men. That means they invade the personal space of a woman they want. Latina women respond to this. MOST women (if they are attracted) respond to this. Kino means you are not a "nice guy". You are a sexual man and you have desire. One of the sexiest things a woman wants is to feel desired.

She isn't going to go home with you if you weren't into her physical space. Conversely if she refuses you getting into her personal space (aka she turns down sexual forwardness) then rest assured she isn't into you and move on. This is part of qualification. It goes both ways. You dropped the ball here (sorry).

Her calling you up to discuss what you are looking for like a job interview simply means she is entertaining the idea of stringing you along as a sugar daddy/citizenship sponsor. You didn't give the right answers there and you didn't create desire where she was open for sexual contact so she's out. Period. End of story.

Learn how to get touchy with women (without being creepy.) Trust me you do that and you'll go far. The post @mrgoodstuff is talking about is about men who yes in many cases with screw anything on two legs, but the bigger point is they will flirt shamelessly with anything on two legs. And I'm here to tell you, men who can flirt with anyone can score with most anyone...which means these men can afford to be more picky as they move up the confidence scale. I've been dating just such a man for a while now. He was extremely touchy on first meet. Very sexually forward. Granted once actual dating starts that is its own can of worms, but the men who are physically forward (learned from practicing on whoever) are the ones that get the hotties revved up.

Now as far as meeting high quality people? High quality women? You need to seek out places they go and then go there. There will be venues in your area that the beautiful people frequent. Go there. Mix, and mingle, and smile and touch. That is how you build chemistry. Women are suckers for chemistry.

 

[marmel75]

Huh? I already told you I've tried inviting her over and creating opportunities for that to happen lol. I already told you I tried to invite her over to watch a movie on a day she was free, meaning not after this particular date.

It's like you haven't even read the posts I have left on here.

Sigh...I give up. You are right. You are doing everything correct...its every woman you ever meet that is wrong about you.

 

[Spaz]

So, a white male who is 6'4", broad shouldered, with a fit body who takes care of himself, who also doesn't do drugs, smoke or have an alcohol problem is supposed to lower his standards. I'm also college educated, going to physical therapy school, have money/financially stable and just a solid good guy all around.

I'm supposed to lower myself to garbage? Where the **** did you get that mindset from lol. I'm clearly a high quality male, why would I disrespect myself like that. I'm so worthless I'm supposed to date a druggie or some ugly fat girl that brings absolutely nothing to the table?

I agree.

U r high quality and perfect.

So it stands to reason that women are at fault.

You should go extreme MGTOW to teach those female garbage a lesson.

 

[sangheilios]

I agree.

U r high quality and perfect.

So it stands to reason that women are at fault.

You should go extreme MGTOW to teach those female garbage a lesson.

LOL so I'm supposed to date some girl that does meth, sleeps with a dozen guys a week, has missing teeth, covered in tattoos, etc.? I don't get you guys at all, seriously. It's like a man is supposed to not have any self respect and no matter what he does it isn't good enough for a decent quality female.

 

[sangheilios]

Advice from the old lady:

Here's what the guys are really asking you. Did you kino during the date? Did you cozy up to her in the booth? Did you kiss her or steal a kiss from her? Graze her neck with your lips? Blow gently in her ear? Did you place your hand on her thigh? Did you physically touch her in any way to verify all the saucy things she was saying? Or were you polite and sat nicely across from her having a conversation? THAT is what the guys mean.

Latina women are from a touchy culture. The men are very machisimo. Men who are masculine are sexually forward and this is especially true of Latin men. That means they invade the personal space of a woman they want. Latina women respond to this. MOST women (if they are attracted) respond to this. Kino means you are not a "nice guy". You are a sexual man and you have desire. One of the sexiest things a woman wants is to feel desired.

She isn't going to go home with you if you weren't into her physical space. Conversely if she refuses you getting into her personal space (aka she turns down sexual forwardness) then rest assured she isn't into you and move on. This is part of qualification. It goes both ways. You dropped the ball here (sorry).

Her calling you up to discuss what you are looking for like a job interview simply means she is entertaining the idea of stringing you along as a sugar daddy/citizenship sponsor. You didn't give the right answers there and you didn't create desire where she was open for sexual contact so she's out. Period. End of story.

Learn how to get touchy with women (without being creepy.) Trust me you do that and you'll go far. The post @mrgoodstuff is talking about is about men who yes in many cases with screw anything on two legs, but the bigger point is they will flirt shamelessly with anything on two legs. And I'm here to tell you, men who can flirt with anyone can score with most anyone...which means these men can afford to be more picky as they move up the confidence scale. I've been dating just such a man for a while now. He was extremely touchy on first meet. Very sexually forward. Granted once actual dating starts that is its own can of worms, but the men who are physically forward (learned from practicing on whoever) are the ones that get the hotties revved up.

Now as far as meeting high quality people? High quality women? You need to seek out places they go and then go there. There will be venues in your area that the beautiful people frequent. Go there. Mix, and mingle, and smile and touch. That is how you build chemistry. Women are suckers for chemistry.

For the date I actually was wearing colonge, which I only do for those occasions. Anyway, she noticed it and we were talking about it and I held out my arm so she could smell it, I just did this casually without planning on going anywhere with it. She then put her face into my neck to smell it more, I was driving to the restaurant/bar and she initiated all of this. It actually kind of startled me because I wasn't expecting it.

In the restaurant she was initiating all the verbal flirting and I just went along with it. The way she said all those things about liking my lips and body and all that just made feel like she was just playing me. Where I'm originally from the women are very cold, unloving and have an aura of hatred towards men, I can't really explain it so don't ask me to. I'm not really used to this culture, or women acting like that, so to me it initially comes across as fake, though I actually do believe it is genuine.

In regards to touching women, I've never really felt comfortable going too far with that, especially if I don't really know them all that well. I think a lot of this has to do with my upbringing and the culture where I grew up. I have done it before but it never felt natural and seemed to result in more harm than good.

As for asking what I'm looking for, she had presented that question to me before but in a different manner. She is older than me but has 2 children, I'm not sure exactly what the situation with the father is like as I never bothered to ask, as I had no interest. Anyway, she had asked me before if I really liked her or not, like if I liked her outfit, etc. and all that. I thought she was doing this out of insecurity so I would just tell her I thought she looked sexy, which I did. A couple days after our 3rd date I sent her a text to invite her over to watch a movie. She responded by asking me if I was looking for a relationship or what and then asked why I wanted her besides the fact I found her hot. I just took that as she felt I was just looking to **** her and not really interested in anything beyond that. This is just from my perspective because when I take her out I'm not really spending hardly anything, so it isn't like I'm taking her out to fancy dinners or what have you. First date I took her out for a drink, second date we just hung out on a patio at a lounge by the fire and talked. 3rd date was a drink and appetizer we split, hardly anything expensive at all.

As for finding high quality people, where I live I've been extremely shocked to see what appear to be high quality people turn out to be the exact opposite. There are tons of people that look really successful and normal but with drug issues. A lot of people around my age out here are rampant with infidelity, tons of cheating in relationships out here. I could discuss very specific cases but it's not really relevant to this post.

 

[Spaz]

LOL so I'm supposed to date some girl that does meth, sleeps with a dozen guys a week, has missing teeth, covered in tattoos, etc.? I don't get you guys at all, seriously. It's like a man is supposed to not have any self respect and no matter what he does it isn't good enough for a decent quality female.

No.

I clearly said that u r high quality and perfect.

I also said clearly that those women are all garbage for rejecting you.

Stop wasting ur time on garbage women, they can't recognise ur awesomeness and perfection that even rivals a Greek god.

It's time for you to go full MGTOW - hardcore.

Teach those women a lesson by removing yourself completely off women.

 

[sangheilios]

No.

I clearly said that u r high quality and perfect.

I also said clearly that those women are all garbage for rejecting you.

Stop wasting ur time on garbage women, they can't recognise ur awesomeness and perfection that even rivals a Greek god.

It's time for you to go full MGTOW - hardcore.

Teach those women a lesson by removing yourself completely off women.

I've never wasted my breathe on garbage worthless women. As a good man who doesn't drink, smoke or do drugs I would never in my life date a woman who does drugs. I exercise regularly and take care of myself, so naturally I am looking for someone who is the same. The idea of dating a woman who sits there eating oreos all day who complains about fat acceptance is repulsive to me.

I've been MGTOW my entire life, I just don't think I realized it. Constant criticism and being told no over and over by low quality women made me the great guy I am today. When I was in high school I was putting in over $100/week into my savings, starting sophmore year, and in the summer it was $500/week. I was constantly told I was lazy and that it wasn't good enough, so towards the end of high school I started working out and built up a great physique. Despite this, I was criticized for being fat and little made up details about my appearance. I worked even harder and became even better, yet these *****s spread their legs for losers who never once had to work on self improvement.

Now, I'm 6'4", still in great shape, an attractive good guy. My house is paid off, I have a 5 figure crypto portfolio, going to physical therapy school next year. Good luck to these women to find a guy like that lol.

How dare you and the rest of the trolls I've met over the years insult that.

 

[Brahmabull]

BigDave17 attention whoring it up once again. This is not for that fvcker, but yeah, chances of sex drop drastically after the third date. BigDave17 back in the friendzone...

Same ol' schtick, new screen name. Gym rat, check. The best looking man in Armenia/the gym/the club, check. Top car salesman in metro chicago area vs. cryptocurrency millions, check. Loves armenian/latin women, check. Dating is hopeless attention whoring, check. Posting stupid extreme sh1t to bump his own thread indefinitely, check.

heyyyyyyyyyyy! I don't chase old skanks with kids. I would have the female in question sucking my **** after date 3. I don't know what OP is struggling with


Women over 30 with kids are as easy as it gets. Also Latin women are very poor man's Armenian women. It's not even comparable.