Why do so many people say dating is easier for men at 28-40?

[bigdave17]

It's different for everyone. FUKIN PERIOD, END OF DISCUSSION.

there's just no way that dating is easier for the average 5-7 men at 30 than 16- 20, not a chance. At 16-20, you're constantly around quality women in your day to day life - this means a 1,000 times more than anything related to success and career as you get older. Now is it possible that a man could be so strong at 30 in terms of looks and willingness and ability to approach women that he has way more success than he did at 16-20? Sure but that doesn't mean things are easier. It just means he's so much stronger now that he can win a much much harder game

 

[Mike32ct]

there's just no way that dating is easier for the average 5-7 men at 30 than 16- 20, not a chance. At 16-20, you're constantly around quality women in your day to day life - this means a 1,000 times more than anything related to success and career as you get older. Now is it possible that a man could be so strong at 30 in terms of looks and willingness and ability to approach women that he has way more success than he did at 16-20? Sure but that doesn't mean things are easier. It just means he's so much stronger now that he can win a much much harder game

And young women are any LESS blackpill lol?

I think it’s even worse for young guys.

 

[corrector]

This forum doesn't intend to do that, but that can be the effect for some. You talked about OLD, that's a perfect example.

Posters tell stories about how online women have far more options than guys, how they only go for the best looking 20%, how women get so much attention through social media. They talk about how these women are garbage quality, have been riding the carousel for years, and are not suitable for LTRs. You can see how some guys might find this discouraging.

Because it also happens to be true. Do you use online dating services? I have used it since 2006 and quit about 2015 and concluded it's not for me, and that includes Christian sites like Christian cafe. This board didn't make me quit, it's the results of it. I'd say 9 years at it is quite a while. The complaints most people have about not getting much traction online is something I had since I started it in 2006 and I was 13 years younger than I am today. Garbage people I've meet, I've met women with kids, women who divorced their ex-husband who also happened to be a pastor who was praying for them to repent and return back to them who has Turner's syndrome and was like a 4.5 feet tall, I mean you can't make some of this stuff up.

The only thing that I have not done is change my profile picture to a stereotypical white guy or "Chad" and see if that dramatically changes the response as other people have done to test to see if it's their profile, or to see if women are just so superficial and shallow that they'll just look at the picture and it doesn't really matter what you write on there, etc.... I also don't have a sister or close female friend (but I know Black women struggle online as well) to see how they are doing online to compare notes. So it's fair if other people have that benefit to compare notes with a sister or close friend, or have the time to conduct elaborate experiments and post the results, then it's good information, not toxic, because it saves my time if I wanted to go that far, right?

So, let me paint the correct picture. People come on here because they already have a bad or jaded experience. People who already happy campers or natural Chads that don't have issues at all with women wouldn't even care about going on a place like this. It's not likely they would get any more discouraged.

 

[guru1000]

So, let me paint the correct picture. People come on here because they already have a bad or jaded experience. People who already happy campers or natural Chads that don't have issues at all with women wouldn't even care about going on a place like this. It's not likely they would get any more discouraged.

Negative. Chads run into issues too, just at different leagues. There is no person alive that has not been hit, not even the 21 yo Maxim 10.

Chad myth debunked.

 

[corrector]

I must be an exception. I was never jaded or had a bad experience or had issues with women before I joined Sosuave. I had strikeouts, and failures to launch, but I wasn't jaded.

...then you must be a Chadlite. This means you are Chadsplaining to us incels all along. Nice try though.

 

[zekko]

Because it also happens to be true. Do you use online dating services?

I didn't say it wasn't true. I've never used OLD, I have a girlfriend. From what I read about it here however, it doesn't sound like I'm missing much. Sounds like the most it's good for is for some guys who just want to get a quick easy lay.

I didn't say it wasn't true, I said it might be discouraging for some. Maybe not more discouraging, but still discouraging. People like Dave come here with an idea that OLD is garbage, or that women only want the most elite men, and he probably receives a lot of confirmation from what he reads here. There are a lot of black pill attitudes here.

Many say the red pill is difficult to swallow. Why do you think that is? It's because yeah, it can be discouraging, depending on your situation.

Another possible negative effect is "paralysis by analysis". Some guys get messed up from studying pickup because it gives them too much to think about, and they end up overthinking everything.

Myself, when I talk to women, I can't stand there and use like old Mystery Method stuff, where you analyze what stage you are in, and react accordingly. Because when I talk to women, my focus is turned outward, my focus is on them. If I start analyzing everything going on, that just puts me back "into my head". So I have to take a more natural approach, and rely on my instincts.

 

[guru1000]

...then you must be a Chadlite. This means you are Chadsplaining to us incels all along. Nice try though.

This is not an incel site. You should get stepping ==>

 

[corrector]

This is not an incel site. You should get stepping ==>

I never said this was an incel site, but this is an incel thread. In fact, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results. You keep giving advice and then get frustrated the advice isn't listened to, and then give more advice again hoping for another outcome. I don't make these threads, I just surf them. If you are taking them seriously then you are stupid.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I never said this was an incel site, but this is an incel thread. In fact, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting different results. You keep giving advice and then get frustrated the advice isn't listened to, and then give more advice again hoping for another outcome. I don't make these threads, I just surf them. If you are taking them seriously then you are stupid.

Biblical mindset wont work im the dating market. Even in church dating you need attraction and desire.

 

[corrector]

I didn't say it wasn't true. I've never used OLD, I have a girlfriend. From what I read about it here however, it doesn't sound like I'm missing much. Sounds like the most it's good for is for some guys who just want to get a quick easy lay.

I didn't say it wasn't true, I said it might be discouraging for some. Maybe not more discouraging, but still discouraging. People like Dave come here with an idea that OLD is garbage, or that women only want the most elite men, and he probably receives a lot of confirmation from what he reads here. There are a lot of black pill attitudes here.

You are strongly implying to say that it's not true. You don't always have to verbalize something to make a point, like it appears you are doing here.

Many say the red pill is difficult to swallow. Why do you think that is? It's because yeah, it can be discouraging, depending on your situation.

Nobody is saying a red pill is difficult to swallow. However, in an age of technology and smartphones allot of the good old seduction stuff is a bit dated now. We are not in 2005 when you have Neil Strauss' "The Game" being printed out, or the movie "Hitch" with Will Smith or 40 year-old Virgin with Steve Carell, playing in cinemas and being a big thing and people were starting to learn this thing called "game". You don't see that times have changed since then? You didn't have real black-pills or issues during that decade like today.

 

[lamath]

More bullcrap to reinforce your loser mentalities.

I'm often mistaken for Armenian, and have the same complexion as you. Ever heard of tall, dark, and handsome? The most beautiful women in the world desire this type of complexion typically from the former Soviet Union, Russian-speaking countries today (including Armenia), where most of the 9s and 10s of the world come from.

I operate at every disadvantage you could conceive : girls who are 9-10s, 20+ years my junior, not comparable statuses to their ex bfs whom are celebs/ball-players/hedge fund managers, a social circle nowhere in comparison to theirs, no social media ... YET I still dominate.

It's call game. And both of you have none.

"Game" boils down to the image you portray. Your game paints you as desperado losers. Mine, the "god" frame, all encompassing, the limitless arena where every chick wants to seemly join. I didn't start here; I had to work hard to get here and remain steadfast to whom I owned I was ... to plow through a reality that wished to tell me a different story. I transcended because my mental Paradigms were greater than my Reality, until Reality acquiesced to its knees.

I don't feel sorry for you as you create your reality ... you either RISE or sit in your misery. But you guys will never (<==) rise, as to do that you would need the Paradigms of a Winner. And winners don't whine; they DO something about it--BUT most importantly ... Winners do not avoid rejection or challenge, rather they choose to embrace it.

I see it alot from a few member i usuasly dont bother opening the thread

Way too much whinning, complaining and
Excuses.


Need to roll with the punches and do something about it.

Loser mentality.

 

[corrector]

Biblical mindset wont work im the dating market. Even in church dating you need attraction and desire.

....and your point is? Obviously I never said I was a Chad.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

....and your point is?

Thats the point. Women say they want a man who moves like jesus but they wont desire him.

 

[zekko]

You are strongly implying to say that it's not true. You don't always have to verbalize something to make a point, like it appears you are doing here./QUOTE]
I was trying to verbalize it to explain it to you. Because if you think I'm implying that it isn't true, you aren't even close to understanding what I was trying to say. No offense intended.

Nobody is saying a red pill is difficult to swallow.

People here and in the manosphere say that all the time. Anyone who hasn't seen it isn't reading the forum very thoroughly.

 

[corrector]

Thats the point. Women say they want a man who moves like jesus but they wont desire him.

But I see couples in church. I also have people in my family who have met their SOs in church and have gone on to have productive families with children. But my cousins are Chad and Tyrone, maybe that is why it worked for them.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

But I see couples in church. I also have people in my family who have met their SOs in church and have gone on to have productive families with children. But my cousins are Chad and Tyrone, maybe that is why it worked for them.

They mustve had swag.

 

[bob2007]

Some people need 1on1 coaching, others can just play and learn music on their own.
If it's not working, try something new. There's knowledge, and then there's experience.

I have to agree, I don't even try now there's more women that hit on me.
It's because once you've had the experience with women, you are just naturally different in everything.
I might've had a lot of money and a great job at 25.
But at 34 I have experience in life and women, which is what makes attraction happen.

I also agree, the old material is useful and also not useful.