Why do so many people say dating is easier for men at 28-40?

[bigdave17]

So what are you doing to increase the number of women you meet? And simultaneously increase the quality of women?

I really don't know dude. Me wanting a woman with a decent body really narrows down the list. I mostly see those women at the gym but approaching at the gym is crazy hard


Most women have terrible bodies nowadays

 

[GrowingPains]

I really don't know dude. Me wanting a woman with a decent body really narrows down the list. I mostly see those women at the gym but approaching at the gym is crazy hard


Most women have terrible bodies nowadays

When you answer my questions, you say "I don't know" a lot. Do you think if you stopped searching for an answer external to yourself that you would be able to come up with something other than "I don't know"?

For example:

GP: What can you do to change your circumstances?
BD: I don't know. Women just don't meet my standards. I am everything a woman wants. But women do not want me. I don't know what to do.

GP: What can you do to change your circumstances?
BD: Well, I want to meet more women so I need to find a way to bring more of them into my life. I think I need to expand my social circle or go out and cold approach more women. I think I will give this a shot and if I do this then I can assess whether the problem is truly with the women or if the problem is with me.

What do you think about that? Do you see the difference in the two responses? What is it?

Side note (but please don't forget to address the main point above) : The women you see in the gym are just like you. You are not always in the gym. You do other things. Go to work, hang out with friends, or whatever in places that aren't the gym. Which means they do the same. Which also means that you can find these women with great bodies in other places. You just have to.. I'll let you think about this one.

 

[bigdave17]

When you answer my questions, you say "I don't know" a lot. Do you think if you stopped searching for an answer external to yourself that you would be able to come up with something other than "I don't know"?

For example:

GP: What can you do to change your circumstances?
BD: I don't know. Women just don't meet my standards. I am everything a woman wants. But women do not want me. I don't know what to do.

GP: What can you do to change your circumstances?
BD: Well, I want to meet more women so I need to find a way to bring more of them into my life. I think I need to expand my social circle or go out and cold approach more women. I think I will give this a shot and if I do this then I can assess whether the problem is truly with the women or if the problem is with me.

What do you think about that? Do you see the difference in the two responses? What is it?

Side note (but please don't forget to address the main point above) : The women you see in the gym are just like you. You are not always in the gym. You do other things. Go to work, hang out with friends, or whatever in places that aren't the gym. Which means they do the same. Which also means that you can find these women with great bodies in other places. You just have to.. I'll let you think about this one.

I don't see these women outside of the gym, I really don't...or the percentages are very very small

and I've been trying to make new friends but the issue is I'm mostly into male dominated hobbies so my friends are all single dudes. It's not like they're going to have hot female single friends for me to meet....any such female friend they have, they will be trying to hit on themselves

I make very high quality friends. This dude I met at a bar last week is good looking, in shape, makes like 300K a year. Great guy but it's not helping me meet women.

 

[SoSuave666]

Your posts reek of low self-esteem. I assume everyone you encounter can sniff your desperation from a mile away, especially women. Stop trolling this site and go out and game women. Your social skills I am sure is what your problem is.

 

[GrowingPains]

I don't see these women outside of the gym, I really don't...or the percentages are very very small

and I've been trying to make new friends but the issue is I'm mostly into male dominated hobbies so my friends are all single dudes. It's not like they're going to have hot female single friends for me to meet....any such female friend they have, they will be trying to hit on themselves

I make very high quality friends. This dude I met at a bar last week is good looking, in shape, makes like 300K a year. Great guy but it's not helping me meet women.

The difference between the first dialogue and the second dialogue is that the second is you taking ownership of your own insufficiency. If you feel like you are not getting what you want, your friends are not going to help you get it. You have to make the change for yourself.

So we've come full circle, what is the change you're going to make? So you don't see the women outside of the gym... you're not going to find them while sitting behind your computer. Have you considered going through the DJ Boot Camp? It encourages you to get out and go to highly populated places to meet women.

"Why do my eyes hurt? You have never used them before." - @Rollo Tomassi

@Amante Silvestre brings up a great point. It is a point many of us have tried to lead you towards or blatantly pointed out for you, but you never seem to get it. Why is this? Do you think there is a man on earth that is perfect? Do you feel like a man should address his faults? If you do, why do you not put in the effort to address your own? What do you think your faults are?

 

[bigdave17]

Your posts reek of low self-esteem. I assume everyone you encounter can sniff your desperation from a mile away, especially women. Stop trolling this site and go out and game women. Your social skills I am sure is what your problem is.

I'm as strong socially in terms of making friends as anybody here.

I talk to people like they're the only person in the world, with zero agenda or wanting anything out of interaction, as I'm genuinely very interested in them and I make friends as efficiently as anybody you'll find

I talked to 2 guys today at my gym and those 2 girls strictly as friends last night. All 4 of them loved me quite a bit. I could make 100s of friends in a year if I tried

I think most people can sense that im genuinely a very good person and it really makes me a social powerhouse. Unfortunately the same thing does not apply to women. Women don't care about that in terms of dating level

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I mostly see those women at the gym but approaching at the gym is crazy hard

for you, dude, for you.

Fat people think exercising is crazy hard.

People who drop of out college thing school is crazy hard.

People who can't sell think sales is crazy hard.

SOME PEOPLE (not most) suck it up and practice the "crazy hard" thing until it's easy.

The rest spend their ENTIRE LIVES whining.

Just like you ARE, and just like you WILL.

 

[GrowingPains]

I'm as strong socially in terms of making friends as anybody here.

I talk to people like they're the only person in the world, with zero agenda or wanting anything out of interaction, as I'm genuinely very interested in them and I make friends as efficiently as anybody you'll find

I talked to 2 guys today at my gym and those 2 girls strictly as friends last night. All 4 of them loved me quite a bit. I could make 100s of friends in a year if I tried

I think most people can sense that im genuinely a very good person and it really makes me a social powerhouse. Unfortunately the same thing does not apply to women. Women don't care about that in terms of dating level

Stay focused, Dave. We were having a good convo, what do you think of what I said?

 

[SoSuave666]

You're depressing me man. Your attitude fvcking sucks.

 

[zekko]

I also noticed @GrowingPains asked you to name your faults, and this was followed by a post of you naming all your attributes (again). You have to admit your problem if you're ever going to work on fixing it.

think most people can sense that im genuinely a very good person and it really makes me a social powerhouse. Unfortunately the same thing does not apply to women. Women don't care about that in terms of dating level

Of course they do, women care about almost everything when it comes to dating.

I don't see these women outside of the gym, I really don't...or the percentages are very very small

Sounds like you specifically want a gym rat. This is one reason why no one appeals to you, you're too picky. You live in Chicago, FFS, it's the third most populated city in the US. There are plenty of women there, but you can't find one.

I'm wondering where you would find a gym rat outside of the gym? Marathons? I'm guessing "runner's bodies" don't appeal to you.
Some other sort of athletic competition? Maybe you could go to a WNBA game. There was a Saturday Night Live skit recently on guys who tried to pick up WNBA players.

I make very high quality friends. This dude I met at a bar last week is good looking, in shape, makes like 300K a year. Great guy but it's not helping me meet women.

You're always talking about how much money people make. You sound a bit stuck up, to be honest.

 

[bigdave17]

I also noticed @GrowingPains asked you to name your faults, and this was followed by a post of you naming all your attributes (again). You have to admit your problem if you're ever going to work on fixing it.


Of course they do, women care about almost everything when it comes to dating.


Sounds like you specifically want a gym rat. This is one reason why no one appeals to you, you're too picky. You live in Chicago, FFS, it's the third most populated city in the US. There are plenty of women there, but you can't find one.

I'm wondering where you would find a gym rat outside of the gym? Marathons? I'm guessing "runner's bodies" don't appeal to you.
Some other sort of athletic competition? Maybe you could go to a WNBA game. There was a Saturday Night Live skit recently on guys who tried to pick up WNBA players.


You're always talking about how much money people make. You sound a bit stuck up, to be honest.

I don't like marathon runners or basketball players. I like thick, big booty, curvy but athletic women

As far as my own faults go, I'm an obsessive perfectionist. I'm always trying to be more confident, more genuine, a better person, better son and brother, etc...

 

[zekko]

I don't like marathon runners or basketball players. I like thick, big booty, curvy but athletic women

See, it sounds like the only place you're going to find these girls is at the gym. And probably most of them would have worked that butt off.
You are way too picky, and you sound way too miserable to be that picky.

 

[bigdave17]

See, it sounds like the only place you're going to find these girls is at the gym. And probably most of them would have worked that butt off.
You are way too picky, and you sound way too miserable to be that picky.

But I barely care about the face

Why can't I find a woman with the voluptous body type i like when I'm both good looking and muscular myself?

And no, they wouldn't have worked it off. Any Italian/Spanish/middle eastern girl who works out will have the pornstar thick body type i like

 

[SoSuave666]

I don't like marathon runners or basketball players. I like thick, big booty, curvy but athletic women

As far as my own faults go, I'm an obsessive perfectionist. I'm always trying to be more confident, more genuine, a better person, better son and brother, etc...

Have you ever gotten with a woman you desired?

 

[corrector]

But I barely care about the face

Why can't I find a woman with the voluptous body type i like when I'm both good looking and muscular myself?

And no, they wouldn't have worked it off. Any Italian/Spanish/middle eastern girl who works out will have the pornstar thick body type i like

There are just so many thick middle-eastern/Spanish/Italian girls like that and they only cost like $ 200 / hour. Granted, some of them are discriminatory, but I think you'll pass.

I know in real life there is no chance with them, and feel the same way you do. It's got to a point that if I see a woman looking like that, I just figure, what's the point to bother to talk to them, they are probably in a world of their own and I'm far, far away from them to even start a convo right? If you are not Chad, or their paying customer, then you don't exist, right? However, with the number of escorts that look like that, I also wonder, if she could be into that herself since I don't know anyone, and escorts to go the GYM, just like anyone else, so you don't really know who is who.

 

[bigdave17]

There are just so many thick middle-eastern/Spanish/Italian girls like that and they only cost like $ 200 / hour. Granted, some of them are discriminatory, but I think you'll pass.

I know in real life there is no chance with them, and feel the same way you do. It's got to a point that if I see a woman looking like that, I just figure, what's the point to bother to talk to them, they are probably in a world of their own and I'm far, far away from them to even start a convo right? If you are not Chad, or their paying customer, then you don't exist, right? However, with the number of escorts that look like that, I also wonder, if she could be into that herself since I don't know anyone, and escorts to go the GYM, just like anyone else, so you don't really know who is who.

What??

 

[GrowingPains]

As far as my own faults go, I'm an obsessive perfectionist. I'm always trying to be more confident, more genuine, a better person, better son and brother, etc...

I like em curvy too my man.

Do you think that you can become a better person, son, brother etc without actually trying in real life? Say there was a forum for discussing the dynamics of those things. Would you go on there to discuss the issues you're having and then not implement them or would you take the advice, try it and see if it worked?

Also @bigdave17 , I asked if you've ever considered doing the DJ Boot Camp but you never responded.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

dude you're making it sound like I'm going after 10/10s

one of the women that I messaged online that I would be very happy to date, you rated a f*cking 4/10, a 4!

In reality, I barely even have standards on the face. I'm just not gonna date 2s, fat chicks or women with kids. The only thing I really can't do without is a decent body.

Butterface with less money will appreciate you. Shell get you in the game

 

[bigdave17]

Butterface with less money will appreciate you. Shell get you in the game

I'm okay with average face as long as she's not ugly - can't have bad skin, fukked up teeth, giant nose, etc... Average facial features are fine

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I like em curvy too my man.

Do you think that you can become a better person, son, brother etc without actually trying in real life? Say there was a forum for discussing the dynamics of those things. Would you go on there to discuss the issues you're having and then not implement them or would you take the advice, try it and see if it worked?

Also @bigdave17 , I asked if you've ever considered doing the DJ Boot Camp but you never responded.

Why the assumption you need to be a better person? maybe you need to choose better women.