RickTheToad
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So, you don't want to chat it up with Momo?
So I actually had an opportunity with a good looking girl last night
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zekko
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Yes, it is a lie. Some guys will always be intimidated, but the idea that the prettiest women are sitting home alone on Saturday nights because all guys are afraid to ask them out is nonsense. The lies made it sound like there is no competition for these women.
There are always the guys who have the nerve and self confidence to approach anyone. Then there are guys who will be so attracted to her beauty that they will ask her out even if they are afraid. To them, the reward is worth the risk. Then there are the guys who are so horny they will ask her - hormones trump all.
The reason beautiful women are "easier" and more happy to be approached is because their experiences with men are so positive. "Oh look, here comes another boy to adore me".
That is not what's being said at all. You are definitely projecting. I do see women in the 5-7 range approached a lot. Especially7's. But the hotter the women, the less likely they are to be approached. Very few men are able to approach 9's and 10's.
The only time I see single 9's 10's being chatted up is when the guys are part of her social circle: this is especially common with college groups that are out. That doesnt mean they are cold approaching.
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Desperation IS anxiety, you're just assigning it a different name and trying to claim you don't have anxiety. You have anxiety
taiyuu_otoko
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Dude, you are so hopeless you even reframe your own emotional limitations.
Any girl whom you THINK is "in your league" will smell this internal flim flam creepiness from a mile away.
It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Im not denying anxiety is a huge problem
But that's an issue when i want to approach somebody i don't know. In this case, this was an easy natural introduction. Why would i feel anxious?
And we feed into his bullsh*t with our responses to the same old song and dance. Dave, seriously recognize that constant lamenting will not change the outcomes you seek. Get off your as* and interact with women, even if the are "beneath" your magical worth. Mods, let's make a deal with Dave, every time he spouts this same crap wrapped in different words he automatically earns a weeks ban. He can then use the time to interact in the real world instead of wasting words on various forums. Win win for all involved!
taiyuu_otoko
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Why don't you explore this questions with a qualified therapist instead of trying to convince a bunch a random people that your problems are simple logistics when WE ALL KNOW they are deeply psychological.
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I don't believe in 10s. But the HB9s I've known had guys all over them, they were being cold approached everywhere they went.
In fact, since beauty is somewhat subjective, I kind of came to the conclusion that this was an objective way to define a true HB9. If a girl isn't being approached by guys everywhere she goes, she's not really a 9.
I've seen the exact opposite. I should count myself lucky. And I don't see 9's and 10's all that often.
A 9 or 10 ticks all of the boxes: tall, slim, well, dressed, beautiful hair, face, skin tone. I've seen some shortie 9's and 10's but it's tougher for them since just a few extra pounds can really throw off their appearance. It's tougher for a short girl to have a gracile appearance.
A 9 or 10 ticks all of the boxes: tall, slim, well, dressed, beautiful hair, face, skin tone. I've seen some shortie 9's and 10's but it's tougher for them since just a few extra pounds can really throw off their appearance. It's tougher for a short girl to have a gracile appearance.
a lot of looks comes down to personal taste
To me this is a 10/10
this is a 6/10
I don't like thin girls, I don't like blonds and I don't care for light skinned women. I like thick, dark (olive skin tone or darker) and very fit
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
You're like some guy stuck on a desert island explaining to a seagull your specific requirements for the perfect souffle that you're never going to eat.
RickTheToad
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@bigdave17. I think Momo is for you. She's got that big azz you like. LOL. She won't judge you too much either.
my point is most mainstream media would prefer the blonde... to me she is not appealing at all
looks are subjective
Atom Smasher
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Dave, how did you become a top salesman and eliminate sales anxiety? The same principles apply.
Do you deal with these women with a healthy detachment?
Do you carry the attitude that you are judging who she is and deciding whether or not she’s worthy to be in your life?
Seems to me the answer to both questions is no.
Why be desperate that a STRANGER likes you? Either the chemistry is there, or it isn’t. Your goal shouldn’t be “attracting” any individual woman. Rather, it should be determining if good chemistry exists or not.
Picture being in a room with 20 wooden boxes. One of them contains a gold coin. Your job is to simply open a box, one at a time, to see if the gold coin is factually there or not.
You can’t manipulate the boxes nor the coin in any way. You can only discover which box contains the coin.
In any given woman, either the coin (good chemistry) is there, or not. Nothing you can do or think can alter that fact.
You can’t manufacture anything. You can only discover the ones that YOU judge to be worthwhile.
Do you deal with these women with a healthy detachment?
Do you carry the attitude that you are judging who she is and deciding whether or not she’s worthy to be in your life?
Seems to me the answer to both questions is no.
Why be desperate that a STRANGER likes you? Either the chemistry is there, or it isn’t. Your goal shouldn’t be “attracting” any individual woman. Rather, it should be determining if good chemistry exists or not.
Picture being in a room with 20 wooden boxes. One of them contains a gold coin. Your job is to simply open a box, one at a time, to see if the gold coin is factually there or not.
You can’t manipulate the boxes nor the coin in any way. You can only discover which box contains the coin.
In any given woman, either the coin (good chemistry) is there, or not. Nothing you can do or think can alter that fact.
You can’t manufacture anything. You can only discover the ones that YOU judge to be worthwhile.
mrgoodstuff
Master Don Juan
A pack of azzkissers and a couple of guys that treat them like the competitive manipulative ladies that they are.
You just said you have the same results online as an incel would have....zero replies. You can't approach women at a gym because they have head-phones on....again that sounds incel. You said you look at allot of porn and think that's a barrier...again incels look at porn/type of porn because they don't have a gf or whatever. You are not presenting yourself in a way that differentiates yourself from an incel.
RickTheToad
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He's not an incel, he's a voincel. He's basically a lady in a man's body. I've never seen so many excuses for not dating or having sex with a lady. I can understand if they looked like Missy Elliott, but if the pics in the past were true, the dude id fvckin nuts in the head. He's gone, by his own admission, nearly 3 years w/o any intimacy. He's in a dead bedroom with himself.
