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2/2/19: Revelations Part 3
I'm still typing up the notes from this Skype session. Bear with me guys.
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Q4.) How do you feel about group dates or party dates? What is your definition of a date?
A4.) If you bring a girl out in a group, that's fine, but you need to make sure that she knows it's a DATE. Maybe you could do this by explicitly saying the word date when you go to hang out with her. As long as you are building attraction and she feels safe and comfortable around you, that's good. There's no reason that you can't split off later from the group at the date. However, one sentiment that I very much agree with from PUA is "never bring a girl to the club."
Q5.) How can I learn rhythm and how to dance to modern rap music? It seems to be pretty important these days for seduction.
A5.) I'm definitely not the best person to ask this question, but continuing to practice with YouTube tutorials and music videos would be good. You might also consider taking private dance lessons. Also, consider doing salsa or swing dancing. They have a lot of carry-over to any kind of dancing, and plus girls love it when you know how to use your hips.
Q6.) How would I get with the more promiscuous party girls? Would simply taking them out to coffee be too "safe" a date?
A6.) That's totally fine if you want to bring a "party girl" on a more lowkey date like that. Although I will say that you should go for the girls that you have a connection with, not just the "highest social value" ones. If you'd like to bring a date to a house party too, that's perfectly fine. However, when you go on dates, you want to make sure that you go for exciting and engaging over just pleasant. But go for it on asking party girls on coffee dates? If they're bored and they don't like it, that's their problem, not yours. Ideally in a date, you want to have a chance to have some banter and antagonistic flirting, if that's your style. One on one dates are ideal, you want it to be an actual date instead of just "oh we're just here together." As for date ideas, since you're in college, the possibilities are endless. There are so many events, like concerts and Open Mic Nights. If your college has a Subreddit or newspaper, you can literally look things up from in there and get date ideas. Concerts can be great dates too because there's lots of singing and dancing, very exciting.
Q7.) In general, how long do you think a typical Cold Approach should be?
A7.) I'd say that just depends on how long she is engaged. I'll ride the interaction until it starts to die down, and then I'll go. Ideally, you want to leave on a high note and leave her wanting more instead of staying too long. When you get her number, you'd ideally want to pre-sell something as well. Like hey, I'm going to see this cool movie/art exhibit... maybe you'd like to come see it with me?
Q8.) How should I react if a girl I like is thirst trapping overtly over social media?
A8.) You can certainly flirt with her. You can give her a compliment, but don't escalate it just yet, especially if you don't have a relationship with her yet. If you just come up to her all thirsty or just instantly ask her to come over, that's a great way to get shut down. They're just posting because they can. Also, when you compliment her, maybe compliment her on something that isn't her looks. Like "that's a really nice shot" or "I really like your outfit." Something that she had a hand in, instead of just winning the genetic lottery.
Q9.) Is "you're cute" ever a thing? Over Snapchat and in person.
A9.) That's totally fine as long as you don't overuse it. It's definitely a form of flirting. Don't worry too much about fighting with girls with frame control games. If you're doing that all the time, she probably just doesn't like you. However, once again, it's probably better to compliment someone on something that they actively had a hand in, like their hair or amazing style.
Q10.) I know I'm supposed to text girls intermittently with value giving texts while courting them. But how much is that? How do you know how often to text a girl?
A10.) You just have to do this by feel, on a case by case basis. You're having a conversation with them while you're courting them, so why not talk? The most important thing is that you actually give them something to respond to that isn't super boring. As cheesy as the line "Hey, I just saw your evil twin" is, it actually does work. You need to keep the emotional momentum going. You want something that is coherent, and also within the context of something that you talked about within your conversation, ideally. After a while, you can go pretty much wherever you want with your texts. Remember that all you're trying to do with your opening is start a conversation.
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One more post and then we're done!
I'm still typing up the notes from this Skype session. Bear with me guys.
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Q4.) How do you feel about group dates or party dates? What is your definition of a date?
A4.) If you bring a girl out in a group, that's fine, but you need to make sure that she knows it's a DATE. Maybe you could do this by explicitly saying the word date when you go to hang out with her. As long as you are building attraction and she feels safe and comfortable around you, that's good. There's no reason that you can't split off later from the group at the date. However, one sentiment that I very much agree with from PUA is "never bring a girl to the club."
Q5.) How can I learn rhythm and how to dance to modern rap music? It seems to be pretty important these days for seduction.
A5.) I'm definitely not the best person to ask this question, but continuing to practice with YouTube tutorials and music videos would be good. You might also consider taking private dance lessons. Also, consider doing salsa or swing dancing. They have a lot of carry-over to any kind of dancing, and plus girls love it when you know how to use your hips.
Q6.) How would I get with the more promiscuous party girls? Would simply taking them out to coffee be too "safe" a date?
A6.) That's totally fine if you want to bring a "party girl" on a more lowkey date like that. Although I will say that you should go for the girls that you have a connection with, not just the "highest social value" ones. If you'd like to bring a date to a house party too, that's perfectly fine. However, when you go on dates, you want to make sure that you go for exciting and engaging over just pleasant. But go for it on asking party girls on coffee dates? If they're bored and they don't like it, that's their problem, not yours. Ideally in a date, you want to have a chance to have some banter and antagonistic flirting, if that's your style. One on one dates are ideal, you want it to be an actual date instead of just "oh we're just here together." As for date ideas, since you're in college, the possibilities are endless. There are so many events, like concerts and Open Mic Nights. If your college has a Subreddit or newspaper, you can literally look things up from in there and get date ideas. Concerts can be great dates too because there's lots of singing and dancing, very exciting.
Q7.) In general, how long do you think a typical Cold Approach should be?
A7.) I'd say that just depends on how long she is engaged. I'll ride the interaction until it starts to die down, and then I'll go. Ideally, you want to leave on a high note and leave her wanting more instead of staying too long. When you get her number, you'd ideally want to pre-sell something as well. Like hey, I'm going to see this cool movie/art exhibit... maybe you'd like to come see it with me?
Q8.) How should I react if a girl I like is thirst trapping overtly over social media?
A8.) You can certainly flirt with her. You can give her a compliment, but don't escalate it just yet, especially if you don't have a relationship with her yet. If you just come up to her all thirsty or just instantly ask her to come over, that's a great way to get shut down. They're just posting because they can. Also, when you compliment her, maybe compliment her on something that isn't her looks. Like "that's a really nice shot" or "I really like your outfit." Something that she had a hand in, instead of just winning the genetic lottery.
Q9.) Is "you're cute" ever a thing? Over Snapchat and in person.
A9.) That's totally fine as long as you don't overuse it. It's definitely a form of flirting. Don't worry too much about fighting with girls with frame control games. If you're doing that all the time, she probably just doesn't like you. However, once again, it's probably better to compliment someone on something that they actively had a hand in, like their hair or amazing style.
Q10.) I know I'm supposed to text girls intermittently with value giving texts while courting them. But how much is that? How do you know how often to text a girl?
A10.) You just have to do this by feel, on a case by case basis. You're having a conversation with them while you're courting them, so why not talk? The most important thing is that you actually give them something to respond to that isn't super boring. As cheesy as the line "Hey, I just saw your evil twin" is, it actually does work. You need to keep the emotional momentum going. You want something that is coherent, and also within the context of something that you talked about within your conversation, ideally. After a while, you can go pretty much wherever you want with your texts. Remember that all you're trying to do with your opening is start a conversation.
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One more post and then we're done!