What’s the policy when under the influence? What the hell do I do?

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Then that means you didn't tell us how the conversation go exactly. Word by word and stuff, and I must have assumed that you didn't do what was suggested.
My bad bro. I didn’t know you guys wanted a full word by word. I was I’ve been so busy with school and life lately that I haven’t typed it. But I will do that since you asked. Might be tomorrow morning though...
 

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Where does it say pursue? Lol
Basically tell her the truth. I guess you didn’t like that part. Wanted to protect her from her own actions.
Just can’t help yourself I see. Youre like a demented stalker with foam at the corners of your mouth.
Plus you can’t admit she had enough of her faculties to stop him from having intercourse with her. Yep. Too drunk. Lol
Old man, you simply don't 'get' his generation or the mindset of an 18 year old female when she's struggling with anti slut defense.
 

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@nicksaiz65 my take on what @backseatjuan means is that she could potentially "warn" any females that will listen to be wary of you, especially when they are drinking. Hopefully that isn't happening. You'd know eventually if it was, some female will mention it, ask you if it's true. Another reason to handle the situation with kid gloves. For now lay low and hope it all dies down.
 

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@nicksaiz65 my take on what @backseatjuan means is that she could potentially "warn" any females that will listen to be wary of you, especially when they are drinking. Hopefully that isn't happening. You'd know eventually if it was, some female will mention it, ask you if it's true. Another reason to handle the situation with kid gloves. For now lay low and hope it all dies down.
I don’t think that’ll happen, but I’ll be wary of it. I can only really lay low like you said cause she won’t talk to me lol. But an interesting detail... if she really hated me and felt abused she would’ve blocked me on everything. But she still views my Snapchat stories and such. I know that may not seem like a big deal to some, but this is the social media generation. I thought that was an interesting point. I think it’s more proof that this is just Anti-Slut defense like you said.
 

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No! Better be her boyfriend for now so that the whole campus will see she's full of it, or at least friend.
After this mess I’d never date this girl lol, plus she’s too young for me. I need to get more experience with women to be a Don Juan, not have a girlfriend.

I’ll be her friend once she cools it though. If I ever try to pursue anything with her it’d be 100% sober. But I might just put her in my friendzone and pursue other women since she was giving me mixed signals.
 
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I’ll try to type a play by play for you guys sometime today if I’m not too busy with work and studying
 

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No! Better be her boyfriend for now so that the whole campus will see she's full of it, or at least friend.
Yeah, I hear u, but she won't even talk to him so how can he make that happen?
 

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I don’t think that’ll happen, but I’ll be wary of it. I can only really lay low like you said cause she won’t talk to me lol. But an interesting detail... if she really hated me and felt abused she would’ve blocked me on everything. But she still views my Snapchat stories and such. I know that may not seem like a big deal to some, but this is the social media generation. I thought that was an interesting point. I think it’s more proof that this is just Anti-Slut defense like you said.
When she starts to talk to you again DO NOT being the evening up. Don't mention it. If she wants to talk about it she will bring it up.

Don't be surprised if, eventually, you two are partying again and she starts flirting with you. If that happens tell her not while she is drunk and put her to bed
 

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When she starts to talk to you again DO NOT being the evening up. Don't mention it. If she wants to talk about it she will bring it up.

Don't be surprised if, eventually, you two are partying again and she starts flirting with you. If that happens tell her not while she is drunk and put her to bed
Noted. I definitely won’t make the same mistake twice. And I definitely won’t bring up that night again either.

She would send me mixed messages even while sober. I can’t understand why on God’s Green Earth you would ever make out with someone in bed on a date, rub their hair and shyt, and then cheek them when they try to kiss you again at the end of the date.

We’ll just see where this goes. You think I shouldn’t reach out to her at all and just see if she does? That’s what my Chad friend said to do. I was considering reaching out in a week, but that might not be such a hot idea.
 

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Noted. I definitely won’t make the same mistake twice. And I definitely won’t bring up that night again either.

She would send me mixed messages even while sober. I can’t understand why on God’s Green Earth you would ever make out with someone in bed on a date, rub their hair and shyt, and then cheek them when they try to kiss you again at the end of the date.

We’ll just see where this goes. You think I shouldn’t reach out to her at all and just see if she does? That’s what my Chad friend said to do. I was considering reaching out in a week, but that might not be such a hot idea.
Do not reach out, wait for her.

The only reason you want to reach out to her is because you don't want her upset with you. What you need to realize is you should be mighty pissed off at her, and she should be the one reaching out to you and apologizing for distorting what occurred that night.
 

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Do not reach out, wait for her.

The only reason you want to reach out to her is because you don't want her upset with you. What you need to realize is you should be mighty pissed off at her, and she should be the one reaching out to you and apologizing for distorting what occurred that night.
I’ll take your advice. In the meantime I’ll hang out with my other friends, continue expanding my social circle, and keep dating new girls.

Any idea at all on the mixed messages? I’m just confused as to what was going on there lol
 
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Old man, you simply don't 'get' his generation or the mindset of an 18 year old female when she's struggling with anti slut defense.
I don’t want to get the feminized generation.
An 18 year old female is responsible for every action she takes,why anti-slut when the action is slut?
That generation has failed. And that’s a sexy experienced man with incredible attributes to you soon-to-be cat lady.
 

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I don’t want to get the feminized generation.
An 18 year old female is responsible for every action she takes,why anti-slut when the action is slut?
That generation has failed. And that’s a sexy experienced man with incredible attributes to you soon-to-be cat lady.
Yeah this generation sucks. But then again that’s why we have sites like these and stuff like The Red Pill to fight back
 
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@nicksaiz65 my take on what @backseatjuan means is that she could potentially "warn" any females that will listen to be wary of you, especially when they are drinking. Hopefully that isn't happening. You'd know eventually if it was, some female will mention it, ask you if it's true. Another reason to handle the situation with kid gloves. For now lay low and hope it all dies down.
This will actually get you laid more. Do not cower from this. Stand your ground and hold your head up. Unless you are at a tiny college it’s a mute point. I was told the same thing when I fukked three or four right off the bat when I showed up to football camp as a freshman. It actually works in your favor.

You are now known as not a homogenous male. There will be no doubt that you are not a namby pamby little **** that girls laugh at.
Read the Book of Pook about a homogenous male. There’s an audio version on YouTube.

It is better to be a savage a$$hole than to be a man that is not even noticed when a woman scans the room. Don’t listen to this garbage.
If some woman confronts you about it...say the truth and hold you head up when you do. You are not to be trifled with.
Stop listening to this feminist hag.
 

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Y’all we don’t have to fight lol... I agree with aspects of both of what you all are saying. I didn’t divulge all the explicit details, I’ll never try to fvck a drunk girl ever again if I haven’t fvcked her sober, and I’m gonna let her reach out to me. At the same time, I’m gonna keep my head up and keep working to fvck other bytches like you said Ranger. I think that both of you have added value to the thread. I took in mind the advice of everyone who commented here, compiled it, and I think that this is the best strategy to handle it.
 
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Y’all we don’t have to fight lol... I agree with aspects of both of what you all are saying. I didn’t divulge all the explicit details, I’ll never try to fvck a drunk girl ever again if I haven’t fvcked her sober, and I’m gonna let her reach out to me. At the same time, I’m gonna keep my head up and keep working to fvck other bytches like you said Ranger. I think that both of you have added value to the thread. I took in mind the advice of everyone who commented here, compiled it, and I think that this is the best strategy to handle it.
It’s not really a fight in that sense Nick. It’s a fight on my end to minimize destructive ideology so that men can unplug themselves. I only care about men. Sazc has a political/social ideology that governs the thought process.
You can’t see it yet, but nearly every post she submits is actually filled with feminine imperative (matrix) thought processes. Until you have internalized your own version of reality based on hard core and sometimes unpleasant axioms, you are at risk.

There is nothing to discuss in this stuff. It’s a way of thinking. Your thoughts = your actions.
Women will fight tooth and nail, the idea that men who are not already masculine/alpha don’t deserve to be one.
Men don’t realize that we already lost the ideological war. It’s over. This is a new war. This is a subversive, clandestine, physiological war now.
It is A-symmetric. What that means is that we are horribly outnumbered and out gunned. So this war for us is asymmetrical. Men are still ladened with the propensities of listening to women use “reasonable” discussions. This is psychological in nature and especially young men will listen to things that sound reasonable coming from women. They are not.
These women are not being evil. They are naturally socialistic/communist by biology. So all their thought processes are actually about them.
 

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@nicksaiz65 my guess, as to why she was essentially sexually leading you on, is that she knew when she gave you a little bit of sexual attention you were going to reciprocate with a lot of attention.

Think about it, a few packs on the cheeks from her would probably keep your attention focused her direction for the entire night. when she didn't want your attention she wouldn't initiate like that. When she did want your attention she would initiate like that.

depending on her mood that evening and whether or not there was another man she was interested in she would decide whether or not to lead you on.

Telling you this matters me uncomfortable because it's not a nice thing to say to someone and I don't know if I am correct. But that is the only reason I can think of that she would throw a little sexuality your way, and only sometimes.

That's my best guess.

did she ever like you? Did she ever see any value in you? She probably did, but not enough to make you her man permanently. I'm sure on many levels you became a source of comfort and male friendship
 

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@nicksaiz65 my guess, as to why she was essentially sexually leading you on, is that she knew when she gave you a little bit of sexual attention you were going to reciprocate with a lot of attention.

Think about it, a few packs on the cheeks from her would probably keep your attention focused her direction for the entire night. when she didn't want your attention she wouldn't initiate like that. When she did want your attention she would initiate like that.

depending on her mood that evening and whether or not there was another man she was interested in she would decide whether or not to lead you on.

Telling you this matters me uncomfortable because it's not a nice thing to say to someone and I don't know if I am correct. But that is the only reason I can think of that she would throw a little sexuality your way, and only sometimes.

That's my best guess.

did she ever like you? Did she ever see any value in you? She probably did, but not enough to make you her man permanently. I'm sure on many levels you became a source of comfort and male friendship
We clicked because we had practically exactly the same interests and taste in music. It was always weird cause she’d play hot and cold with me. She was the one who asked for my Snapchat first, and she’d slide up on my pictures telling me that I looked good and all that. She seemed very flirty to me as well. But then sometimes she wouldn’t answer my text messages for a week. The closest I ever got with her I think was making out with her and cuddling with her in bed after a date. And then it’s super weird cause I tried to kiss her at the end of the date and she wouldn’t let me.

Yet, when I was hanging out with her at my friends house, she was all over me. My friend can attest to this. She was snuggling up against me, had her arms wrapped around me, all that. So I thought I may as well start kissing her and then it proceeded from there.

Btw I don’t know if this is really a factor, but I’m pretty sure this girl has Daddy issues. A bunch of guys on the forum seem to have problems with girls like that.

I suppose she was definitely stringing me along cause I couldn’t tell if I was in the friendzone or not. If she was really repulsed by me, she would’ve said something like “I don’t see you in that way.”

I guess all we can say at the end of the day is “Mixed Signals, Low Interest.” If she was really, really into me sexually she would’ve let me fvck her in her bed. Or at least at my friend’s house. She’d be like “oh my God you’re so hot fvck me right here right now” and we wouldn’t have all this Buyer’s Remorse that I’m dealing with. ESPECIALLY since I know she’s a bit promiscuous and she’s very overtly sexual.

I suppose all I can do to circumvent this in the future is raise my SMV and become Chad. One day I’m gonna be so ripped that no girl in her right mind would ever string me along like this again.

In the words of my Chad friend, “hoes are crazy”
 
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