What’s the policy when under the influence? What the hell do I do?

[Ranger]

Yeah man, thanks for the advice. In America, girls lying about rape is actually pretty common. They get buyers remorse and then claim rape. Many men have had their lives ruined over this crap.

Does that Reptilicus program run on iPhone? I don’t have an Android.

I’ll make sure to buy a small recorder when I run by Walmart today. That could help me out. But like you said, I don’t think it’ll turn out badly.

Also, for the future, when I’m laying on top of these petite type girls, I really don’t need to use my full weight on them. Especially as I continue to lift more and more.

But if I could ask you just a couple more questions:
1.) I know she’s gonna press me on what happened when we were fooling around. Do I bring up how she was fingering herself, moaning, and whispering “oh fvck” under her breath? I’ll definitely mention how I didn’t fvck her. Like I know you answered that question but if she continues to press me, how many details should I divulge?
2.) I’m sure I can recover my friendship with this girl, but do you think I’d ever be able to fvck this girl after this? I don’t even know. If my SMV was just higher I probably wouldn’t even be dealing with this issue because I’d barely get any pushback to me escalating.

Tell her you both had a great time. No intercourse though. But she enjoyed the kissing and was pleasuring herself. Tell her the truth. The truth will be solid and it will come off as genuine.

 

[sazc]

That’s great advice. Assuming she actually lets me call her I’ll do that.

Then there’s the whole issue of what do I do about hooking up with drunk girls in general... definitely going to talk about that on this conference call with Dr. Nerdlove

Leave her alone.

Give her space. If you start bugging her she's going to call you a stalker on top of it, then you will be a date rapist and a stalker.

Give her space. Let her calm down. Eventually she will come back around. If she doesn't then that's okay too

 

[Bokanovsky]

So sex with her is out of the question at this point. Back to the drawing board with Cold Approaches. But I don’t want to lose our friendship either cause she’s honestly really cool peoples and I enjoy hanging out. I don’t even know how to begin salvaging that. It really hurts to have her treat me this coldly.

Dude, what the fvck is wrong with you??? You are not thinking straight. Sex with her should be the last of your concerns at the moment. You could very well be facing criminal charges soon (not to mention expulsion, if you are in college). Do the words "sexual assault" ring a bell? Have you been living under a rock for the last several years? There's like a 50% chance that your entire life is about to get ruined and you're thinking about getting laid. From her reaction, it sounds like she is seriously contemplating calling the cops. I suggest you talk to a criminal attorney before you say (or, even worse, text) something stupid that could later be interpreted as incriminating evidence. You have no idea how serious your predicament is right now.

 

[sazc]

Tell her you both had a great time. No intercourse though. But she enjoyed the kissing and was pleasuring herself. Tell her the truth. The truth will be solid and it will come off as genuine.

Are you high? These are 20 year old kids, not mature adults. The last thing he wants to do is tell a girl, who already feels taken advantage of, that she fingered herself and had a GREAT time being drunk and loose. Don't be daft. Know your audience before you "advise"

 

[nicksaiz65]

Dude, what the fvck is wrong with you??? You are not thinking straight. Sex with her should be the last of your concerns at the moment. You could very well be facing criminal charges soon (not to mention expulsion, if you are in college). Do the words "sexual assault" ring a bell? Have you been living under a rock for the last several years? There's like a 50% chance that your entire life is about to get ruined and you're thinking about getting laid. From her reaction, it sounds like she is seriously contemplating calling the cops. I suggest you talk to a criminal attorney before you say (or, even worse, text) something stupid that could later be interpreted as incriminating evidence. You have no idea how serious your predicament is right now.

I know this is super serious. That’s why I said it was out of the question. I’m not pursuing anything sexually with her ever again.

I really might have to see an attorney.

All I want to do is resuscitate this friendship, and make sure I have the knowhow to never make a mistake like this again.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Are you high? These are 20 year old kids, not mature adults. The last thing he wants to do is tell a girl, who already feels taken advantage of, that she fingered herself and had a GREAT time being drunk and loose. Don't be daft. Know your audience before you "advise"

I agree. No offense to you Ranger.

 

[Ranger]

Are you high? These are 20 year old kids, not mature adults. The last thing he wants to do is tell a girl, who already feels taken advantage of, that she fingered herself and had a GREAT time being drunk and loose. Don't be daft. Know your audience before you "advise"

Oh by all means lie. LMAO
Like I listen to a woman when it comes to ethics and honor. You’re delusional. He didn’t do a thing wrong. You want him to protect her from her own conduct? Since when is drunkeness an excuse for anything?
A woman is ALWAYS responsible for the men she sleeps with.
You have the woman and the imperative in your mind first and foremost. To hell with your girl code. LMAO

 

[Ranger]

I agree. No offense to you Ranger.

None taken.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Oh by all means lie. LMAO
Like I listen to a woman when it comes to ethics and honor. You’re delusional. He didn’t do a thing wrong. You want him to protect her from her own conduct? Since when is drunkeness an excuse for anything?
A woman is ALWAYS responsible for the men she sleeps with.
You have the woman and the imperative in your mind first and foremost. To hell with your girl code. LMAO

Now I do agree that I don’t think I did anything wrong. I was super surprised when this came up.

I just don’t know if I wanna talk about her fingering herself. She was already super pissed.

 

[nicksaiz65]

This is such a morally gray issue. I can’t wait until I get my Counseling with Dr. Nerdlove. I’ll make sure to update this thread so that we can get even more value and ideas in here. He comes from a very similar place as me in his story of Game

 

[Ranger]

Now I do agree that I don’t think I did anything wrong. I was super surprised when this came up.

I just don’t know if I wanna talk about her fingering herself. She was already super pissed.

Being pissed at another human being for one’s own actions is a total shift of responsibility. A complete victim mindset.
When does one stop kneeling to victims? Once you start, it will be hard to stop.
I haven’t slept with a drunk bytch in a very long time. I don’t like it.
Take this and learn from it.
When a woman wants to do something that is against her own moral code or is Insulating herself from social stigma, she gets drunk on purpose. Drunk fuks and dik sucks don't count towards her number of men And has plausible deniability.

A drunk woman knows EXACTLY what’s she’s doing. Don’t ever fuk a drunk woman who is not your normal fuk ever again.

 

[guru1000]

I really need to go back to the drawing board cause there’s so much shyt that I don’t know. Starting by reading every article on Dr. Nerdlove’s Blog so I can actually become a real human being. Secondly, I need to read, reread, and watch a bunch of Game resources. I really don’t understand shyt about game.
.

Fvck this broad. She will be the same girl being pumped and dropped like a pancake an hour later by some high value dude.

And stop thinking this is a game issue. When you reach the epitome of this "game," you realize there is none. You are either high value (to her) or you're not. Everybody else in the middle, stay puzzled and feel the need to reach. There's no confusion where there is high value. Confusion only stems from her uncertainty of wanting to get with you.

Don't mimic behaviors (read game) inherent in high value men. BE one.

Tend to your social acuity;
Tend to your looks;
Tend to your physique;
Tend to your business;
Tend to your investments;
Tend to your status.

All else are trivialities. You're still a young man with time TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. GIDDY UP.

 

[Ranger]

Fvck this broad. She will be the same girl being pumped and dropped like a pancake an hour later by some high value dude.

And stop thinking this is a game issue. When you reach the epitome of this "game," you realize there is none. You are either high value (to her) or you're not. Everybody else in the middle, stay puzzled and feel the need to reach. There's no confusion where there is high value. Confusion only stems from her uncertainty of wanting to get with you.

Don't mimic behaviors (read game) inherent in high value men. BE one.

Tend to your social acuity;
Tend to your looks;
Tend to your physique;
Tend to your business;
Tend to your investments;
Tend to your status.

All else are trivialities. You're still a young man with time TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. GIDDY UP.

Nice.

 

[Ranger]

I think the reason she is pissed is because she’s afraid her boyfriend will see the marks on her tits.
Plain and simple. There goes her plausible deniability. She’s shifting it all into you.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Being pissed at another human being for one’s own actions is a total shift of responsibility. A complete victim mindset.
When does one stop kneeling to victims? Once you start, it will be hard to stop.
I haven’t slept with a drunk bytch in a very long time. I don’t like it.
Take this and learn from it.
When a woman wants to do something that is against her own moral code or is Insulating herself from social stigma, she gets drunk on purpose. Drunk fuks and dik sucks don't count towards her number of men And has plausible deniability.

A drunk woman knows EXACTLY what’s she’s doing. Don’t ever fuk a drunk woman who is not your normal fuk ever again.

Yup. I was going back through my past lays in my head and you know what? Every time I fvcked drunk I had fvcked them before. So I never had this issue.

Thanks bro. I’m not gonna fvck with drunk women like this ever again. Had I already fvcked her and then done it again drunk I would’ve been ok

 

[nicksaiz65]

Fvck this broad. She will be the same girl being pumped and dropped like a pancake an hour later by some high value dude.

And stop thinking this is a game issue. When you reach the epitome of this "game," you realize there is none. You are either high value (to her) or you're not. Everybody else in the middle, stay puzzled and feel the need to reach. There's no confusion where there is high value. Confusion only stems from her uncertainty of wanting to get with you.

Don't mimic behaviors (read game) inherent in high value men. BE one.

Tend to your social acuity;
Tend to your looks;
Tend to your physique;
Tend to your business;
Tend to your investments;
Tend to your status.

All else are trivialities. You're still a young man with time TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. GIDDY UP.

Part of me is wondering if this was not only an issue of ethics but of the fact that she considers me a low value male.

When sober, half the time she’d let me kiss her, the other half the time she’d cheek me.

By this, you mean that if she finds you attractive and high value you barely even need Game? I do remember AMS saying something like that.

The reason this confused me so much is that she is very overtly sexual and I know she’s hooking up with other dudes.

And I have plans for every single item on that list. I’m very grateful that I learned about Game from such a young age. I’m gonna be a beast when I’m older.

 

[nicksaiz65]

I’m probably gonna apologize just cause... and I don’t want our relationship to fall apart even if we’re just friends. We were honestly really close. And more than anything, I’ve learned a super valuable lesson for the future. I’ll never ever make this mistake again.

And on top of that, I’ll bring this up when I have my conference call with Dr. Nerdlove. I was only gonna post the notes in nicksaiz65 Odyssey but I’ll post it in here too.

 

[nicksaiz65]

I think the reason she is pissed is because she’s afraid her boyfriend will see the marks on her tits.
Plain and simple. There goes her plausible deniability. She’s shifting it all into you.

Crazy thing is she’s single

 

[Ranger]

Crazy thing is she’s single

I’m not convinced. Single means not married. It’s hard to fuk other guys where they think she’s a sweet “good girl” and she’s gaming them when you have hickies on your tits. LMAO

 

[nicksaiz65]

I’m not convinced. Single means not married. It’s hard to fuk other guys where they think she’s a sweet “good girl” and she’s gaming them when you have hickies on your tits. LMAO

That’s why I don’t give people hickies lol. But I was drunk and feeling wild. Y’know, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with kissing a girl while drunk. This would have been no issue had I just made out with her. So if we’re drunk, I’ll make out with a girl. But sex is a no-go.