Is online dating a waste of time

Young OG

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That's good advice, but the moment I feel the need to do all of that just to meet women off the internet, whom I'm unlikely to actually be all that into, is a sign I'm doing something wrong. As an above average guy, I'm not going to put so much effort into meeting average to below average women. Women that are attractive, likeable and actually get out of the house do not have to resort to online dating to meet men.

Don't take this as an attack on what you said, I just personally don't see the incentive of putting this much time and effort into my tinder profile when I could just go to a bar and approach women and get near instant results.
To me it wasn't a lot of work, but it is easier when you know a photographer. I'm sure you could find a cheap photographer on craigslist. I feel like you have a negative attitude about online dating. I've met some great girls online and some were really hot. Not every girl has the time to meet someone in real life. Some girls have jobs that make them have almost no social life. They don't want to date someone from work, so they go online.

I approach girls at bars/clubs, dabble in daygame, and do online dating. Why not hit it from every angle? This is a numbers game. If you want to find someone good then you need to increase your chances.
 

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To me it wasn't a lot of work, but it is easier when you know a photographer. I'm sure you could find a cheap photographer on craigslist. I feel like you have a negative attitude about online dating. I've met some great girls online and some were really hot. Not every girl has the time to meet someone in real life. Some girls have jobs that make them have almost no social life. They don't want to date someone from work, so they go online.

I approach girls at bars/clubs, dabble in daygame, and do online dating. Why not hit it from every angle? This is a numbers game. If you want to find someone good then you need to increase your chances.
This was from several years ago, not at all recently, but in my early and mid 20s I tried dating sites and that was just a massive waste of time for me. There were literally no women I found attractive but I decided to lower my standards because at the time I LITERALLY was never around anyone remotely my age, let alone those of the opposite sex. I've always been attractive and in shape, so when I'm dealing with ridiculous bull**** over messages I'd ask myself "why the hell am I dealing with this woman's nonsense when I'm way out of her league?".

That's a really good point, I just honestly don't think tinder is worth the time for me. I get numbers from 8s and up if I put in the effort in real life, but as I said I'm not usually in any situations to meet them and they aren't usually single.
 

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Not a waste of time if you get laid and get a GF ;)
 

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In real life I regularly attract very good looking women, 7s+, but often times it doesn't work out for me because they usually aren't single. I'll meet a cute woman who is clearly checking me out or approaches me, we hit it off and talk for a while and then she mentions she is seeing someone. It gets super frustrating but it feels good knowing that women in relationships are actually attracted to me.

Anyway, I've long had an aversion to online dating because I know the women on there are generally less than ideal. I recently decided to try using tinder and as an experiment swiped right on every profile to see what would come of it. Literally all of my matches were with overweight women, some to a significant degree, and/or women that were single mothers. Mind you, I'm 6'4", late twenties, fit/workout a lot and an attractive guy so I was a bit taken a back by this.

I do go out about one night per week but a lot of times I'm just not in the mood or just don't find anything I'd be interested in.
No online dating is not a waste. I banged a few but not promising. You could meet real cool near by women.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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It depends on what you are trying to accomplish.

If you are simply trying to get laid, its honestly hard to beat. If you are looking for a quality woman, then you might have a little harder time.

I dont necessarily agree that "no quality women" are online. It doesnt make much sense because there is a good chance the woman you are approaching in real life is or has done OLD before. I don't see how a woman becomes quality just because you approach her in real life instead of online. They are the same person. The medium by which you make initial contact is irrelevant to this discussion.
 

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Just an observation.........after viewing my sister and cousin's bumble/tinder accounts I came to a quick conclusion. The majority of guys have not so great pics, have lame profiles, and talk about the most boring topics.

I'm probably a 7-8 depending on what girl you ask, average height, and my pics are very good and all scored 80% or better when I had them rated. My profile is funny and girls almost always pick a certain line out of it to start a conversation.

I don't swipe right on every girl. But I do swipe often and I only swipe when I am sitting in traffic, trying to fall asleep, waiting on an appointment, etc.

After 2 weeks I delete my profile and start a new one so it keeps me at the top of the stack.

I have no problem matching with attractive women in my age group. Yes many are flakey as can be and end up wasting your time but thats women in general.

I am certainly no Chad, but you can't be "average" and expect above average results. Its not very hard to be in the above average category from what i have seen. Its just like @BeExcellent said, most of the guys were "meh". That was the same opinion I had and the same opinion I hear from many females. Many of those guys in the "meh" category could certainly elevate themselves into the "above average" category with more effort put into their profile and pics. I was one of them!
 

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I definitely agree. Last year I was meeting tons of hot women that were into me, mostly at the gym, but it didn't work for me because they had bfs.
Maybe you should ask how they met their bfs and see how many statistically is from online dating and if there are other venues, maybe you could get some ideas. Also, if you are talking to hot women that's still an ego-boost, even if the woman is married. It means at least on some level you are desirable to the opposite sex. Even if they have a bf, you don't know how strong their relationship is, if they are about to break-up, or if there is a super-chemistry between you and her, maybe you are right for her. It's not like they are married, right? They say all the good girls are taken anyway so you might play a weird numbers game there to see which one of these taken girls may like you enough to dump their bf and go for you instead in such a tight market.

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In the spring of this year I was making tons of new friends and having a great time with my life and this summer was again meeting lots of hot girls. Went on a couple dates with a hot half mexican and japanese girl, I got instant hard ons around her., Met a half mexican and half colombian girl at my gym, she was a psycho though, et a hot light skinned black girl at my gym who is seeing someone but goes out of he way to talk to me now.

I think I'm going to step away from OLD and focus on the real world, I don't think this is good for me mentally.
You have to have a more targeted approach, like change the profile pictures all the time, take new ones out, look at other guys profiles and see what they are writing and how you could improve yours, keep changing your profile as well here and there, look out for new women who join the site and put a smart email target for them, etc..... The benefit is that it's all on the computer and you are not wasting any real time unless you actually meet someone and you have a quasi-social outlet if you don't talk to girls IRL.
 

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Maybe you should ask how they met their bfs and see how many statistically is from online dating and if there are other venues, maybe you could get some ideas. Also, if you are talking to hot women that's still an ego-boost, even if the woman is married. It means at least on some level you are desirable to the opposite sex. Even if they have a bf, you don't know how strong their relationship is, if they are about to break-up, or if there is a super-chemistry between you and her, maybe you are right for her. It's not like they are married, right? They say all the good girls are taken anyway so you might play a weird numbers game there to see which one of these taken girls may like you enough to dump their bf and go for you instead in such a tight market.



You have to have a more targeted approach, like change the profile pictures all the time, take new ones out, look at other guys profiles and see what they are writing and how you could improve yours, keep changing your profile as well here and there, look out for new women who join the site and put a smart email target for them, etc..... The benefit is that it's all on the computer and you are not wasting any real time unless you actually meet someone and you have a quasi-social outlet if you don't talk to girls IRL.
I started approaching girls at my gym summer of 2017.

-First one was a big booty latina from Miami, I approached her and we ended up talking for 15 minutes. Spoke to her a couple times, she asks me if I had plans over the weekend, proceeded to ask her out which is when she mentions she was seeing someone, so I just tell her I'd be interested if she was single. 2 months later she asks me out but she told me she had to mention she was still seeing her bf.

- Second one was a big booty latina from CA, approached her and she was a bit more reserved so I walked away. After that she'd constantly be staring at me, walking by me and trying to talk to me but I lost interest in her. A year later she still does this.

- Third one was a gorgeous brunette white girl, noticed her a few times but actually started when she was blatantly checking me out whilst I was stretching. I didn't make a move on her because she was always there with her bf. Anyway, this continued for a while until I ran into her at the grocery store that is right next to the gym we go to and she tries starting a conversation with me. I kept it brief because I didn't want to get involved with that.

- Fourth one was a gorgeous hot mexican/half colombian latina, though I'm pretty sure she's had some plastic surgery done. Approached her, we talk for about 10 minutes, I let her get back to her workout. 2 days later I see her, she comes over to talk to me and asks me out that night but later flakes and I didn't hear back from her. We never went out but she kept re initiating with me, not 100% sure why.

- Fifth one was a hot light skinned black girl, noticed her checking me out for a while. She initiated by saying hi and locking eyes with me when I held the door open for her. Went to approach her, huge smile on her face and we talk for a while and she mentions she was seeing someone. She still talks to me and clearly enjoys my company. She's mentioned wanting to spend time with me but can't because of her bf.
 
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