Does it weaken a man’s frame?

[Spaz]

So let’s take it from the frame, that a man has eliminated all his false data about life and women and he desires that he only wants to enjoy women. Engage them. Laugh with and at them for their silliness. But there will never be a relationship. Ever. How does that frame look when a dominate, masculine man goes out and runs into women?
Is it the same? Like cheese on a mouse trap? Lol

Ur definition of male-female relationship, is it from a westernised feminine derived narrative?

 

[Ranger]

You know there are a lot of guys who talked a lot of sh1t similar, only to wind up in a ltr a month later and talk with beexcellent and the ladies about the quality woman and the how waiting for sex is a purest form of dominance and other such things.

Not saying that's you, and you might laugh, but i've literally seen it loads over my time here.

Perhaps both feet on the ground till infield.

Never going to happen. I’ve already been to hell. I’ve been sleeping with women regularly. Not as much as I like.
I’m cured. I really do believe it’s a very sinister sickness. It’s like carrying a virus undetected deep in you. It permeates your body and mind. You can’t even tell it’s there and no doctor can find anything wrong with you. It’s so diabolical in its nature that men kill each other and themselves over it.
When I think back to all of my decisions, I realized that I made them, IN THE FEMININE MATRIX!
Thus they are flawed and were not in my best interest for the most part. I slaved away and clawed my way to excellence in my field for the wrong reasons. Sometimes 12 hour days for weeks on end. It was not for me or my best interests. It was to buy the affections of the woman I was married to. It’s really hard to admit that. But it was also a lesson in the dark side that gives me power now. Why? Because I use it for horsepower.
And because I said so.
A man may not think it’s about the acceptance and affections of a woman but it is. Just recall the times there was always a problem or something wasn’t right or she wanted something more? What did you do about it? You thought about ways to bring it about.

Are we really here to slave away so some woman can whine for more comfort when she has so much boredom sifting through her that she’s unserviceable as even a human being? The truth is, I made her that way. So did you.

Being mad at her for later running off and sucking other diks Is the wrong paradigm. You did it. You made her that way. She was only following protocol. Breed. You fell into the provider role all on your own. So did I. How much more shortsighted can a man be?
That’s why I want every last bit and piece of it out of me. Gone.

Show me a fat man or a lazy man in front of the TV day in and day out, mostly from apathy because nothing is turning out like he wanted it to be and I will show you a wife or LTR he’s attached to or even more sinister, a wife or LTR that he is hunting for and is falling into apathy and despair.

I kill $hit with a traditional bow and tactically continue my training. A man is a warrior and a killer. He’s just forgotten. I shoot combat pistol in USPSA and drill with my own M4 with weapons I built myself. You can’t run with the pack if you’re gonna piss like a pup.

 

[Ranger]

Ur definition of male-female relationship, is it from a westernised feminine derived narrative?

Yes. The unworkable kind. I won’t have that again.

 

[Ranger]

When I was living in working in Alaska I was friends with a Process Engineer. We both worked for the same company. Paul was also the go between between Exxon and the Inuit tribes up in the northern ice pack. Paul and I hunted moose together on the Yukon River with our bows.

Paul started telling me things when we were alone and out of the office. One story was how invariably, in the tribes, that there are no girls over 14 that havent been taken by her father, uncles, brothers etc. it’s been going on for thousands of years.

But one story stands out. It’s about wolves. There’s a term that they call “savaging”. It’s when the food is low and/or certain stresses come into the pack. They will kill and eat the pups and beta males starting from the most beta and work their way up. It’s a survival instinct. The alpha will start killing the betas so the females can eat. Starting from the bottom and working up in rank.

Think about this. If you are cucked...you are food for the woman. That’s all. The alpha gets the best that she is and you are standby food just in case.
Still want to hang onto beta parts?

 

[Spaz]

Never going to happen. I’ve already been to hell. I’ve been sleeping with women regularly. Not as much as I like.
I’m cured. I really do believe it’s a very sinister sickness. It’s like carrying a virus undetected deep in you. It permeates your body and mind. You can’t even tell it’s there and no doctor can find anything wrong with you. It’s so diabolical in its nature that men kill each other and themselves over it.
When I think back to all of my decisions, I realized that I made them, IN THE FEMININE MATRIX!
Thus they are flawed and were not in my best interest for the most part. I slaved away and clawed my way to excellence in my field for the wrong reasons. Sometimes 12 hour days for weeks on end. It was not for me or my best interests. It was to buy the affections of the woman I was married to. It’s really hard to admit that. But it was also a lesson in the dark side that gives me power now. Why? Because I use it for horsepower.
And because I said so.
A man may not think it’s about the acceptance and affections of a woman but it is. Just recall the times there was always a problem or something wasn’t right or she wanted something more? What did you do about it? You thought about ways to bring it about.

Are we really here to slave away so some woman can whine for more comfort when she has so much boredom sifting through her that she’s unserviceable as even a human being? The truth is, I made her that way. So did you.

Being mad at her for later running off and sucking other diks Is the wrong paradigm. You did it. You made her that way. She was only following protocol. Breed. You fell into the provider role all on your own. So did I. How much more shortsighted can a man be?
That’s why I want every last bit and piece of it out of me. Gone.

Show me a fat man or a lazy man in front of the TV day in and day out, mostly from apathy because nothing is turning out like he wanted it to be and I will show you a wife or LTR he’s attached to or even more sinister, a wife or LTR that he is hunting for and is falling into apathy and despair.

I kill $hit with a traditional bow and tactically continue my training. A man is a warrior and a killer. He’s just forgotten. I shoot combat pistol in USPSA and drill with my own M4 with weapons I built myself. You can’t run with the pack if you’re gonna piss like a pup.

Now you understand it.

 

[Spaz]

When I was living in working in Alaska I was friends with a Process Engineer. We both worked for the same company. Paul was also the go between between Exxon and the Inuit tribes up in the northern ice pack. Paul and I hunted moose together on the Yukon River with our bows.

Paul started telling me things when we were alone and out of the office. One story was how invariably, in the tribes, that there are no girls over 14 that havent been taken by her father, uncles, brothers etc. it’s been going on for thousands of years.

But one story stands out. It’s about wolves. There’s a term that they call “savaging”. It’s when the food is low and/or certain stresses come into the pack. They will kill and eat the pups and beta males starting from the most beta and work their way up. It’s a survival instinct. The alpha will start killing the betas so the females can eat. Starting from the bottom and working up in rank.

Think about this. If you are cucked...you are food for the woman. That’s all. The alpha gets the best that she is and you are standby food just in case.
Still want to hang onto beta parts?

Love is a commodity sold by women to enslave males for her protection and for her survival - the feminine version.

However a man can create his version of "love" that offers a woman redemption, protection and femininity by his masculinity.

 

[Ranger]

However a man can create his version of "love" that offers a woman redemption, protection and femininity by his masculinity.

Oh that’s gold Spaz. I need to take that in for a bit. That is something I can do. Some of your best stuff yet. If more comes to mind on this concept I really want to hear it.

 

[Soflobro#3]

It's so pathetic when they get self-righteous, truly.

I imagine you came back because the relationship has ups and downs.

It's retarded and whiteknight thinking to basically enable women to never be held accountable for their actions. If that's really the case women shouldnt be allowed to enjoy any adult rights like voting, owning property, drinking alcohol ect.

Women can be driven away and lose some respect but they're just taking it to an extreme. Its thinking like that among the majority of our culture that enables women to get away with sh1tty behavior. "it's always the man's fault" yeah fvcking right. Sometimes it is but definitely not always and not most of the time. Women are adult humans and are aware of what they're doing and how it affects other people, they just don't care because they can get away with it.

 

[Ranger]

It's retarded and whiteknight thinking to basically enable women to never be held accountable for their actions. If that's really the case women shouldnt be allowed to enjoy any adult rights like voting, owning property, drinking alcohol ect.

Women can be driven away and lose some respect but they're just taking it to an extreme. Its thinking like that among the majority of our culture that enables women to get away with sh1tty behavior. "it's always the man's fault" yeah fvcking right. Sometimes it is but definitely not always and not most of the time. Women are adult humans and are aware of what they're doing and how it affects other people, they just don't care because they can get away with it.

You are not really seeing through it. If a woman is basically a little girl at heart. Has a female frame, more agreeable, what exactly are you expecting?

It’s the man’s fault because he controls the frame for both. If he wants to hang onto sentimental foolishness, that’s up to him.

I do not look at it from the position of my perception of right or wrong. How do you see a woman being in your perception? How do you see in your mind how it should be? What would you have to be for a woman to be like your perception?

Is it working or are women working on a different modis operandi?
My grandmother told me how in the depression, during harvest, the young girls were sleeping with the migrant workers that they like. If they got pregnant they just finally slept with the boy they were holding out for marriage for and then claim she was pregnant so he would marry her.

Which universe are you talking about?

 

[Ranger]

It's retarded and whiteknight thinking to basically enable women to never be held accountable for their actions.

I don’t think anyone said that. That’s your default perception of what was said.
If you don’t set boundaries and stick to them you will get run over. What you wrote was way off the scale of intellect.
She steps over the boundary, gone. But the society we live in will never “punish” her for her sexual behavior. That is intellectual dishonesty.

When I say, she steps over the boundary, she’s gone, that is a frame. Something she automatically knows and feels. Not something you say.
It order to do that, she has to know that other women want to fuk you because of your value. Not because you claim it. We are talking about frame. Your reality. You think the frame we are talking about excuses women. It’s not my misunderstanding. It’s yours.

 

[Spaz]

If a man is operating from the basis of hate, lack of responsibility or lack of ownership then he will blame everything else other then himself.

But if a man is operating from a leadership stand of point then ownership is the benchmark to better things ahead.

From this stand point you'll be able to see the forest from the trees.

 

[Soflobro#3]

You are not really seeing through it. If a woman is basically a little girl at heart. Has a female frame, more agreeable, what exactly are you expecting?

It’s the man’s fault because he controls the frame for both. If he wants to hang onto sentimental foolishness, that’s up to him.

I do not look at it from the position of my perception of right or wrong. How do you see a woman being in your perception? How do you see in your mind how it should be? What would you have to be for a woman to be like your perception?

Is it working or are women working on a different modis operandi?
My grandmother told me how in the depression, during harvest, the young girls were sleeping with the migrant workers that they like. If they got pregnant they just finally slept with the boy they were holding out for marriage for and then claim she was pregnant so he would marry her.

Which universe are you talking about?

So your grandmother said one girl did this or all of them? 90%? 50%? I mean my ex gf took care of me, she wanted me to do something with myself and the relationship went sour partially because I was lazy for the first 8 months until I got into to trouble and was required by the court to be employed.

Never have I took care of a woman. I look at these women as human beings and adults and i explore their minds by having deep and meaningful discussions on what they believe in.

I think I'm like my father and I naturally dominate the frame at first for the majority of the relationship until Sh1t hits the fan. Even to the point where the women start to even talk like me in certain ways. But I do give them plenty of attention, affection and validation and great sex. But not money. And I've always been in monogamous relationships.

 

[Ranger]

If a man is operating from the basis of hate, lack of responsibility or lack of ownership then he will blame everything else other then himself.
.

That was exactly my point Spaz. It’s absolutely true. That’s the worst form of Beta there is. Women are the victims. From their viewpoint. It’s always someone else’s fault. Their justifications could fill a public library. It’s feminine.
Men are not allowed to be victims and rightly so. It’s weak and feminine.

 

[Soflobro#3]

If a man is operating from the basis of hate, lack of responsibility or lack of ownership then he will blame everything else other then himself.

But if a man is operating from a leadership stand of point then ownership is the benchmark to better things ahead.

From this stand point you'll be able to see the forest from the trees.

If you're implying that somehow my perception is like the first one you obviously don't know anything abouy me. You're also a retard for believing women are never at fault and if you do believe women are never at fault they should have the same rights and priveleges as a minor because you can't hold a minor accountable for a crime.

 

[Soflobro#3]

That was exactly my point Spaz. It’s absolutely true. That’s the worst form of Beta there is. Women are the victims. From their viewpoint. It’s always someone else’s fault. Their justifications could fill a public library. It’s feminine.
Men are not allowed to be victims and rightly so. It’s weak and feminine.

What if someone scammed you and stole your money, hypothetically speaking (yes we know you think that would never happen to you but what if the scam was so good and legal and there is nothing you can do about it) are you a victim then?

Saying men are never victims is not realistic, not true, and not an argument.

What if a man is hit by a drunk driver?

What if a man was cheated on, divorced, and fvcked by the courts because the woman is crazy and a liar? Let me guess its his fault she's crazy or went crazy?

 

[Soflobro#3]

I don’t think anyone said that. That’s your default perception of what was said.
If you don’t set boundaries and stick to them you will get run over. What you wrote was way off the scale of intellect.
She steps over the boundary, gone. But the society we live in will never “punish” her for her sexual behavior. That is intellectual dishonesty.

When I say, she steps over the boundary, she’s gone, that is a frame. Something she automatically knows and feels. Not something you say.
It order to do that, she has to know that other women want to fuk you because of your value. Not because you claim it. We are talking about frame. Your reality. You think the frame we are talking about excuses women. It’s not my misunderstanding. It’s yours.

By hold accountable i mean their is this perception by most of society that if a marriage doesn't work out its always the man's fault. Has it ever occurred to you that some women are just much more likely to cheat regardless of how "alpha" the man is?

You can be to alpha, or distant or have to much frame and she will cheat on you too because there isn't enough emotional intimacy. They don't only cheat because you act to soft and emotional.

 

[Ranger]

So your grandmother said one girl did this or all of them? 90%? 50%?

It was when I was 17 and she talked about growing up in Hays, Kansas. She was trying to warn me about “women” at the time. Lol
It was a regular practice. Not all girls got pregnant obviously.
My grandfather married my grandfather, who had travelled from another part of Kansas for work during the harvest. He stayed on chopping cottonwood trees for a land owner.
This is a regular practice.
Think about this a little. A perfect Hypergamy situation. She can act on her impulses because the boys will be gone in a week or so. There’s no danger of getting a reputation.

I later witnessed this same phenomenon when I worked in Alaska. I was based in Anchorage. Many men were “Slopers”. They worked on the North Slope in Prudhoe Bay. Two weeks on and two weeks off.
This is a gold mine for women’s Hypergamy. Not only did he make damn good money but he was gone two weeks of every month. I hope I don’t have to explain the value of this to a woman.

 

[Spaz]

That was exactly my point Spaz. It’s absolutely true. That’s the worst form of Beta there is. Women are the victims. From their viewpoint. It’s always someone else’s fault. Their justifications could fill a public library. It’s feminine.
Men are not allowed to be victims and rightly so. It’s weak and feminine.

Blaming everything else is not only feminine but cowardly.

Edit : Each time a man blames women that's 1 step forward into the feminine narrative.

Each time a man acknowledges his failure, act accordingly by dismissing and improves by learning via ownership then that's 1 step into the masculine narrative

 

[Ranger]

What if someone scammed you and stole your money, hypothetically speaking (yes we know you think that would never happen to you but what if the scam was so good and legal and there is nothing you can do about it.

I was scammed once when I first left the corps. Wasn’t a whole lot of money but it was 100.00 bucks.
I was pissed and then got over it by never falling for one again.
So I can see one being scammed. Once. Did I blame the scammer? At first I did. But then I took it on as my fault. I became very hard to scam. When I read the 48 laws of power, I learned even more about scams.
If one did happen to do it now? You wouldn’t find the body.

 

[Soflobro#3]

Blaming everything else is not only feminine but cowardly.

What's feminine is putting women so high up on a pedestal that in your mind they can do no wrong. What a joke.