Women don't want their partner to be more physically attractive then her

[LaughyDuck]

Women don't go in like "well this guy is an 8, he's way out of my league so I'll reject him" lol. Do you really think women are largely sleeping with guys who don't turn them on? Even if the man is better looking than the woman, she will still get preferential treatment...that's how it works. You see mismatched couples all the time where the woman is a ****ing whale and the guy is skinny and decent looking.

None the less, if that's what someone wants to believe, then have it. Just explain why the "chad" on tinder, the guy with a chiseled face and washboard abs slays *****. Shouldn't women be clamoring after the nerdy looking gamer with a patchy beard and gut?

I think some of you guys forget women are approached and hit on constantly, esp if she is good looking. A woman can at any time probably rattle off a bunch of horn dogs that are actively trying to get with her....and guess what? A good amount of them will likely be handsome. It's all about the total package of which looks are a small part.

I never said that women will not sleep with the "chad". It could be very well that some women (assuming they are decently attractive themselves) will have sex with a exceptionally handsome guy. But will refrain to get involved in a LTR with him. For that they choose the average or "decent" handsome dude.
But if a guy is extremely handsome many women will rather choose to belittle him, insult and neg hit him.
And yes women will notice how much attention the guy (even if he is not aware of it) gets. And if he is getting more attention from pretty girls than she from the average joes her feelings will change from mild resentment to hostility. 100%

You actually believe this? In what part of the world is a man valued for his looks more than a woman? A guy can be good looking and a total loser and women won't want a thing to do with him. A good looking woman that is troubled with a ****ty personality? Men make concessions for them and bail them out all the time because they are stupid. Women aren't intimidated because their guy is handsome....growing up she probably has always had her pick of handsome guys and still does at any moments notice. I want you to consider this community - there very well could be guys here that are "7's" as you guys say that suck with women and never had a girlfriend in their lives....do you guys really think the opposite is true, that a female who is a "7" is going without?

That's not the topic actually. I think most guys here are very aware of the fact that even below average chicks don't have a hard time to have sex.

 

[richersandman]

I never said that women will not sleep with the "chad". It could be very well that some women (assuming they are decently attractive themselves) will have sex with a exceptionally handsome guy. But will refrain to get involved in a LTR with him. For that they choose the average or "decent" handsome dude.
But if a guy is extremely handsome many women will rather choose to belittle him, insult and neg hit him.
And yes women will notice how much attention the guy (even if he is not aware of it) gets. And if he is getting more attention from pretty girls than she from the average joes her feelings will change from mild resentment to hostility. 100%



That's not the topic actually. I think most guys here are very aware of the fact that even below average chicks don't have a hard time to have sex.

That's not necessarily the case. I have women all across the scale in looks/value and there are many women who are incels. They are not approached at bars, they have minimal success in OLD.

The below average girls who have success have the following traits:

-are under 30 or close to it
-work very hard to maximize their appearance with makeup and clothing
-are extra-active in going to social events
-not picky about who they date or hook up with

Once below average girls hit 30 or so, and if they don't work extra hard to get dates in the aforementioned ways, their opportunities plummet.

 

[richersandman]

I came across an interesting blog, which explains reasons most women reject guys if they feel they are too attractive for them. I think it's a must read for everyone, who wants to understands some misleading behaviour from women.

Here is the blog: http://www.vinaywcmd.com/

The blog focuses on the topic of being a good-looking guy in an environment of mostly average women.
You might think that most of those women will choose the best looking guy over the average guy... But thats not the case according to the blog and my own experience. Essentially women feel the need to look better then her partner otherwise their relationship is influenced by too much negative emotions on her side.

I had two offers for professional modeling and a lot of people have told me that I am quite handsome. So without sounding arrogant I am probably not average looking.
Anyway I run into most issues mentioned in the blog, which makes me believe that if you are, let's say > 8 on males looks scale, you'll have some problems with females, which are not self-explanatory.


What you guys think of this?

Everyone has problems with females, they are by nature mercurial, indecisive, and generally irrational.

I think you are overstating how intimidated women are by good looking men, even exceptionally good looking men. If anything, women will work extra hard to initiate a relationship with a good looking man. However, good looks will create a lot of emotional tension within her which is very unusual or absent when she dates a less attractive man.

For example, a man approaching a 7 might be mildly nervous. Change that to a 9 or higher and it's likely he'll either avoid her or will be much more nervous than usual. Women have this same dilemma. The prize is higher value, but many more people are seeking the prize.

 

[btownbuck2012]

I agree with this which is why I don’t place any emphasis on whether a not a woman sees me as bf material. Most men who are bfs or husbands that I know are completely dominated by their women. Things have gotten so out of control that women will openly pursue their dualistic strategy. This also rings true in my experiences of fwb type relationships when you’re suddenly dropped because she feels used. Just because your an alpha f*cks doesn’t mean she wants a relationship with you.

 

[LaughyDuck]

That's not necessarily the case. I have women all across the scale in looks/value and there are many women who are incels. They are not approached at bars, they have minimal success in OLD.

The below average girls who have success have the following traits:

-are under 30 or close to it
-work very hard to maximize their appearance with makeup and clothing
-are extra-active in going to social events
-not picky about who they date or hook up with

Once below average girls hit 30 or so, and if they don't work extra hard to get dates in the aforementioned ways, their opportunities plummet.

Ok that could be the case I guess. I don't have much experience with below average chicks. The thing I know is that they just get an disgusted facial expression when they see me and turn away and don't look at me every again. Could be worse

Maybe I have to correct myself and say that the average girl who knows how to dress etc. has no problem to find someone to have sex with. That does not mean that she (like everybody else) could have a very hard time to find a suited partner.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You actually believe this? In what part of the world is a man valued for his looks more than a woman? A guy can be good looking and a total loser and women won't want a thing to do with him. A good looking woman that is troubled with a ****ty personality? Men make concessions for them and bail them out all the time because they are stupid. Women aren't intimidated because their guy is handsome....growing up she probably has always had her pick of handsome guys and still does at any moments notice. I want you to consider this community - there very well could be guys here that are "7's" as you guys say that suck with women and never had a girlfriend in their lives....do you guys really think the opposite is true, that a female who is a "7" is going without?

Nobody had to tell me this. Some other men have first hand experience. The women insecure about you being more attractive than her will play games to try to run you down.

No what's a "loser" because plenty of jobless and broke dudes score females.

 

[richersandman]

I meant to write that I have women all across the scale in looks who approach and are interested but I didn't mean to write that I make girlfriends of the uglier ones.

 

[IKO69]

I never said that women will not sleep with the "chad". It could be very well that some women (assuming they are decently attractive themselves) will have sex with a exceptionally handsome guy. But will refrain to get involved in a LTR with him. For that they choose the average or "decent" handsome dude.
But if a guy is extremely handsome many women will rather choose to belittle him, insult and neg hit him.
And yes women will notice how much attention the guy (even if he is not aware of it) gets. And if he is getting more attention from pretty girls than she from the average joes her feelings will change from mild resentment to hostility. 100%

If the girl is ****ing the guy then the dynamic changes - it won't long before she asks "where is this going" so long as the guy doesn't turn out to be off putting. The guy being a 7,8,9,10 has no bearing on this. Women don't process the situation, do calculations and determine since he is an 8 he can't relationship material. Sounds ****ing silly does it not? But that's what you are telling me.

Women that choose to insult or belittle a guy are already in the bag. They do that because they secretly like him but are not sure if he feels the same. You need elementary level game in order to recognize and capitalize upon this. Say the guy does and they get together....at the point the woman is no longer going to be insecure anymore. And yes, the last part you quoted does have to do with the topic - this is all because women are consistently hit on by guys, a good deal of which will be good looking. You are not going to tell me that a man, even a good looking man, is going to have more attractive members of the opposite sex interested in him than vice versa...hence she isn't going to give a **** about the guys looks if that's all he has going for him. Now a good looking, charismatic guy that has a good job and potential to be very well off? Different story.

Nobody had to tell me this. Some other men have first hand experience. The women insecure about you being more attractive than her will play games to try to run you down.

No what's a "loser" because plenty of jobless and broke dudes score females.

I won't say it doesn't or hasn't happened but I would hope you are wise enough to realize we are talking about a minority of women, as such it isn't even worth mentioning (in regards to broke guys getting ass). I would hope the standards are a bit higher, in otherwords people aren't thinking they'll be that broke guy and it'll just work out.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Wait the exception is the heavier not modelled up 5-7 "sugar mama" type of woman. She'll be okay with a fine dude.

Fine women and we know they are fake as fvck! Fine women will compete with a fine dude because she wants all the attention.

 

[LaughyDuck]

If the girl is ****ing the guy then the dynamic changes - it won't long before she asks "where is this going" so long as the guy doesn't turn out to be off putting. The guy being a 7,8,9,10 has no bearing on this. Women don't process the situation, do calculations and determine since he is an 8 he can't relationship material. Sounds ****ing silly does it not? But that's what you are telling me.

Women that choose to insult or belittle a guy are already in the bag. They do that because they secretly like him but are not sure if he feels the same. You need elementary level game in order to recognize and capitalize upon this. Say the guy does and they get together....at the point the woman is no longer going to be insecure anymore. And yes, the last part you quoted does have to do with the topic - this is all because women are consistently hit on by guys, a good deal of which will be good looking. You are not going to tell me that a man, even a good looking man, is going to have more attractive members of the opposite sex interested in him than vice versa...hence she isn't going to give a **** about the guys looks if that's all he has going for him. Now a good looking, charismatic guy that has a good job and potential to be very well off? Different story.

That's not my experience at all. A guy who is a 9 in looks + has a generally high SMV will repell women < 7.5. Even the women in the range of 7.5-8 will strongly doubt the trustworthiness of him. Maybe if some drink are involved they will have suddenly sex with him, but in sober state this women will need to be convinced that you are not a "player" , "have a girlfriend" etc. Btw very good looking girls don't get hit on very often.

 

[richersandman]

I have never met a sugar momma type. This is either an exceptionally rare type or simply a myth. I am a good looking guy approached by many women over many years and I have never met this type.

I get plenty of women who will pay for meals, drinks, and gifts, but none are putting me on their payroll.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

If the girl is ****ing the guy then the dynamic changes - it won't long before she asks "where is this going" so long as the guy doesn't turn out to be off putting. The guy being a 7,8,9,10 has no bearing on this. Women don't process the situation, do calculations and determine since he is an 8 he can't relationship material. Sounds ****ing silly does it not? But that's what you are telling me.

Women that choose to insult or belittle a guy are already in the bag. They do that because they secretly like him but are not sure if he feels the same. You need elementary level game in order to recognize and capitalize upon this. Say the guy does and they get together....at the point the woman is no longer going to be insecure anymore. And yes, the last part you quoted does have to do with the topic - this is all because women are consistently hit on by guys, a good deal of which will be good looking. You are not going to tell me that a man, even a good looking man, is going to have more attractive members of the opposite sex interested in him than vice versa...hence she isn't going to give a **** about the guys looks if that's all he has going for him. Now a good looking, charismatic guy that has a good job and potential to be very well off? Different story.




I won't say it doesn't or hasn't happened but I would hope you are wise enough to realize we are talking about a minority of women, as such it isn't even worth mentioning (in regards to broke guys getting ass). I would hope the standards are a bit higher, in otherwords people aren't thinking they'll be that broke guy and it'll just work out.

In Latino and black community a low $ but charming guy who has social circle can have an abundance of pvssy. Even white and Asian women will check him out.

But yeah fine chicks hate fine dudes. Look at the celebrities...

 

[LaughyDuck]

Wait the exception is the heavier not modelled up 5-7 "sugar mama" type of woman. She'll be okay with a fine dude.

Fine women and we know they are fake as fvck! Fine women will compete with a fine dude because she wants all the attention.

I agree on the sugar mama type. I recently had this case were a 6-6.5 sugar mama approached me while I was eating in a bar. She looked at me before pulling out her money 100$ to pay a beer

With the fine girls I can't confirm exactly I get this behaviour more from the so-so hot girls but the really hot girls are mostly used to get tons of attention and are sick of it.

Edit: Approached = started talking with me about the food

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I have never met a sugar momma type. This is either an exceptionally rare type or simply a myth. I am a good looking guy approached by many women over many years and I have never met this type.

I get plenty of women who will pay for meals, drinks, and gifts, but none are putting me on their payroll.

A heavier woman with a good job whose not too into her looks will "sugar momma". I've met some. They help if they like you and like to help.

 

[richersandman]

That's not my experience at all. A guy who is a 9 in looks + has a generally high SMV will repell women < 7.5. Even the women in the range of 7.5-8 will strongly doubt the trustworthiness of him. Maybe if some drink are involved they will have suddenly sex with him, but in sober state this women will need to be convinced that you are not a "player" , "have a girlfriend" etc. Btw very good looking girls don't get hit on very often.

This is not my experience at all. Women of all ages, races, and levels of attractiveness are attracted to me and approach or show other signs of interest.

Keep in mind, women can and will approach and show strong signs of interest AND be very distrustful. They are not mutually exclusive.

I tend to agree that the hottest women are generally not approached very often. It's usually 6's and 7's who are most likely to be approached.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I agree on the sugar mama type. I recently had this case were a 6-6.5 sugar mama approached me while I was eating in a bar. She looked at me before pulling out her money 100$ to pay a beer

I love it. We all need to be entitled enough to think she needs to pay to be with us.

 

[richersandman]

I agree on the sugar mama type. I recently had this case were a 6-6.5 sugar mama approached me while I was eating in a bar. She looked at me before pulling out her money 100$ to pay a beer

With the fine girls I can't confirm exactly I get this behaviour more from the so-so hot girls but the really hot girls are mostly used to get tons of attention and are sick of it.

Sure there are some women who pay for drinks, meals and occasional gifts. That's nothing compared to sugar daddies who are bankrolling cars, apartments, houses, vacations, clothes, shopping sprees. There's no comparison.

 

[IKO69]

I mean I'm not trying to be an ass here, but we've all been to school right? Whoever the best looking guy was, did he or did he not command the most attention from the hot girls? It sure wasn't the nerdy looking or average bland guys. Why would it be different into a person's 20's or 30's and so on? If you are good looking it is to your advantage, but your looks in of itself aren't everything. Women look at the whole package. When women are huddled together talking about some guy they like, the friends usually ask two things, well there are a few more but the main two are - what does he look like and what does he do

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Sure there are some women who pay for drinks, meals and occasional gifts. That's nothing compared to sugar daddies who are bankrolling cars, apartments, houses, vacations, clothes, shopping sprees. There's no comparison.

I'd rather this than coming out my pocket.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I mean I'm not trying to be an ass here, but we've all been to school right? Whoever the best looking guy was, did he or did he not command the most attention from the hot girls? It sure wasn't the nerdy looking or average bland guys. Why would it be different into a person's 20's or 30's and so on? If you are good looking it is to your advantage, but your looks in of itself aren't everything. Women look at the whole package. When women are huddled together talking about some guy they like, the friends usually ask two things, well there are a few more but the main two are - what does he look like and what does he do

High school didn't have money and feminism though. We're telling u in the real world a fine adult male tends to make adult women feel insecure in comparison.