Getting older /lack of options= lowering standards?

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I see a lot of older guys(mostly ugly) finding attractive other very ugly fat women . How is this possible ?
So you're saying "average to below average" (subjective) looking men are pairing up with "average to below average" (subjective) looking women?

Stop the presses at once!

Contrary to the illusion many men like to craft, there is not an infinite supply of 20 year old babes crying out for 38 year old fat, low SMV and economic value guys. These guys hit that age, don't have much dating power and so settle for the girls they can date.

And tbh, it's hard to judge them. Because many of these "less attractive" women are perfectly fine for LTRs and the guys end up happy, which is what it's about after all.

If you're ripped, have an interesting personality and have a good job/business, it doesn't matter if you're 50 or 20, there are going to be many desirable women who will find you attractive. But if you're not ripped, you're boring and you have a bad job, you're probably going to have to settle. Or improve yourself. These guys chose the former.
 

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If you're ripped, have an interesting personality and have a good job/business, it doesn't matter if you're 50 or 20, there are going to be many desirable women who will find you attractive. But if you're not ripped, you're boring and you have a bad job, you're probably going to have to settle. Or improve yourself. These guys chose the former.
This is basically it. Look at older movie stars. There are plenty of guys in their 40's and waaaaaaaaayyy up that score some of the hottest 20 year old's on earth. If you look after yourself as you age, you will continue to have access to attractive 20 year old's. I live in a big city and I see it all the time. It's not common by age alone, because most people don't look after themselves physically and 40 year old guys are no exception, and also good looking 40 year old's are probably married already. But for the rare single guys in their 40's who look good, no problem. Older man with younger woman is a cliche in western society. I wouldn't consider it a contentious concept at all.

I think the one exception would be getting a family. I think most women in their 20's would not settle down with a guy that old. But stranger things have happened.
 

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Maybe some of those girls were cuter when they first got together, maybe the guys were cuter too. People don’t look the same forever.

Also it’s hard to know what the back story is just by looking at couples. Looks matter but for some people looking for something long term there are other things that are important, like personality, values, compatibility etc. Maybe these guys see value and ditched the 9 for a decent 6 who will treat them right. Girls do this too with guys. After a while of being f**ked over by the opposite sex, some men and women just want to find a decent non selfish non mean person with common values to share their life with who is not totally hideous to look at.
You mean ditched the 9 for a decent 1-2/warpig. You have to still have standards man. I know people who married a fat woman and still got divorced. You think just because a woman is fat or appears low SMV they are going to be nice? People chasing them for easy-lay and lots of desperate hard-up guys who don't want to pay will be hitting on them and then they become pre-madonnas too. If anything, these types have a more assertive personality and can boss their man around, and the man is weak. Nothing special about these couples.
 

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As the title says . I see a lot of older guys(mostly ugly) finding attractive other very ugly fat women . How is this possible ?

Also i see a lot of people mostly guys who are fine looking... with some fat ugly women . The worst part is that these women usually have 1-2 kids already with some other guy or make 2-3 kids with that guy and later they divorce and secure a long term payment.

How is tht really possible? Is man really a creature who choose his partner mostly of the way the female looks like?

The standards have fallen a lot and if you ask me i believe women turn uglier every year.
I draw a parallel with debt. The older you get, the less you want it hanging like a burden around your neck. You can afford a bit of debt, but you need to be in control of it... and have it on YOUR terms. Desire is like debt. You can control it, so it does not weigh as heavily on you... as it would for a younger person lacking maturity.
 

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Very true. The dating pool of hot women obviously shrinks with age, but an older man desiring a hot older woman has to absolutely screen her harder on her personality as there will likely be more chance of problems there. When said man cannot find a desireable hot candidate that has her personal act together, he shifts his priorities and settles for less looks wise and puts more value on her sanity…
I'd say the more maturity one has, the more personality is weighed in the balance. So much so, that the hottie is positively screened out as the cutie becomes more attractive.
 

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A personal opinion from a 47-year-old man:

I respectfully disagree, but even if this were 100% true, I am not convinced that it would ever be beneficial to believe in this or to re-enforce this.

Disclaimer: I am delusionally self-confident, and I am also exceptionally physically fit and make good money.
This must wear thin at some point.... there's more to life than woman no?
 

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The statistics, which had a std deviation and advanced stats showed in these countries that a 15-20 years age gap was preferred and the average in their society. Close age relationship was not the average. This was some north African contries, some eastern Europe and some latin American countries, where this is an attractive coupling. But here in America, in our average the older will be used.
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You mean ditched the 9 for a decent 1-2/warpig. You have to still have standards man. I know people who married a fat woman and still got divorced. You think just because a woman is fat or appears low SMV they are going to be nice? People chasing them for easy-lay and lots of desperate hard-up guys who don't want to pay will be hitting on them and then they become pre-madonnas too. If anything, these types have a more assertive personality and can boss their man around, and the man is weak. Nothing special about these couples.
Yes, you should have standards and seek people that you find attractive, but the attractiveness should not be the only standard or trump everything else.
Yes, fat ugly women can be mean too, and I imagine being treated like crap by a hot women is more tolerable than being treated like crap by an ugly woman lol, but it doesn’t change the fact that you are allowing someone to take your dignity away by letting them treat you like crap. So for some guys and girls who are tired of that, they expand their standards to place how they are treated as human beings as more important that her rack or his abs.
 

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As the title says . I see a lot of older guys(mostly ugly) finding attractive other very ugly fat women . How is this possible ?
Provider male exchanges resource's for Chad's booty call as smv plummeted or cratered.

also i see a lot of people mostly guys who are fine looking... with some fat ugly women . The worst part is that these women usually have 1-2 kids already with some other guy or make 2-3 kids with that guy and later they divorce and secure a long term payment.
Monogamy is for cucks. Its a insurance policy for women as SMV craters.

How is tht really possible? Is man really a creature who choose his partner mostly of the way the female looks like?

The standards have fallen a lot and if you ask me i believe women turn uglier every year.
Very PC nuanced point.

Women peak Early. Men peak late. Most men checkout as in,girls are skiing down cawk mountain. Slut for chad. Its before beta male hits his top form SMV, she locks his stupid ass down.

She gets Chad's d. She gets ring. She has kids. Divorce provider male and gets more d.

Cucks are as they are. Its ideal to pick wisely. If not on top form SMV, Netflix and chill. ONS. FWB. Not play house.
 

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This is basically it. Look at older movie stars. There are plenty of guys in their 40's and waaaaaaaaayyy up that score some of the hottest 20 year old's on earth. If you look after yourself as you age, you will continue to have access to attractive 20 year old's. I live in a big city and I see it all the time. It's not common by age alone, because most people don't look after themselves physically and 40 year old guys are no exception, and also good looking 40 year old's are probably married already. But for the rare single guys in their 40's who look good, no problem. Older man with younger woman is a cliche in western society. I wouldn't consider it a contentious concept at all.

I think the one exception would be getting a family. I think most women in their 20's would not settle down with a guy that old. But stranger things have happened.
^Cleverly put @ohrein

I got to know my current LTR when she was 23 turning 24 and I was 42.

It's been 5 years now and she's gunning for marriage:(
 

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Going for the juggler huh?
While some men r desire 2 play house theres a small percentage of men that aren't built for that.

And that small percentage of men wants it all but cherishes his freedom, therein lies the conundrum.
 

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While some men r desire 2 play house theres a small percentage of men that aren't built for that.

And that small percentage of men wants it all but cherishes his freedom, therein lies the conundrum.
Why does bringing a woman fully online take your freedom? Should'nt it enhance your life?
 

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I don't know bro. Back when I was in banking my superior was this 38 year old balding fat guy that hook up with hot new hires from time to time. I know outside of work his sex life was also pretty good - I saw it when we would night outs from time to time he'd pick up women - I assume he ****ed them.

Getting old does not mean you allow yourself to get fat and passion/ambition goes out the window. If you remain on the ball things shouldn't be too different - they should be better even because the assumption is you would be set in your career and have money-a place.
 

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Why does bringing a woman fully online take your freedom? Should'nt it enhance your life?
Women doesn't enhance my life and it shouldn't be for any man.

A women, by virtue of being in a relationship with me will learn lots and gets to experience life the likes she has never known.

For me, women r there to pleasure and amuse me with all their womanly games and activities. It is fun.
 

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I was standing in line yesterday next to a hot tall athletic young blonde at an outdoors/camping store. She was constantly getting texted. She obviously at least to me had been rich all her life and she was returning a tent (cheap one). She wouldn't even really look about me and I'd assume that she thought I was an old creeper not sure. I didn't really look at her either just peripheral until she was at the counter then I looked at her as5 her legs (shorts), hair, arms, hands, knees, side of her face. She undoubtedly receives hundreds of prying eyes a day, a week. She walked and moved as if she knew she was being watched and she must know, of course she knows, but if she gets her hair made up very stylistically and with detail and work (long hair), then and with her shorts showing her smooth tan legs and tight showing her as5 crack through the textiles hugging her, then it's like ok, you act as if you're unwanted "attention," yet you dress up to get MAXIMUM attention (from dudes). There is no logic. There is only emotion. It's something we men want to eradicate, to cut through. We want to removed the bullsh!t but there it is glaring at us day in and day out. There's nothing we can do. So we men dress up to the 10s, it's not the same, and only marginally helps. It may get a smile or a warm welcome or a little convo, but is it worth it? as it is worth it for the female? to spend all that money & time. It's all such a game and in the end fvcking pvssy is just fvcking pvssy some sweeter than others. It's there, then it's gone. It even gets borrrring. She's "I know what I can give him..." "It's EVERYTHING to him..." "How can I get the highest bidder?"
 
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