Socially lost after my divorce. Looking for some advice. (long)

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I never bothered anyone with my medical issues, even family. I do not ask for help from anyone; it's just how I am. I've always been like that since a child. As for her place, it was like a tornado hit it. It was so bad some times, I tidied up because I could not take it. She swore up and down my place would not look like this. Her room looked like a pigsty. I often joked with others it was so bad, I'd do a pre-clean up prior to the cleaning service arrived. Every time it happened, I talked to her about it. It would get better for a few days, then get worse. So, I just took all her crap, threw it in the closet. I told her I do not want this house to look like a pigsty. She got very upset. I said act like an adult, not a kid and clean up after yourself. She rolled her eyes. Her parent's house is and always was spotless. Even when they came over to my house, they were amazed on how tidy it was. She said yea, she cleaned up, they looked at her and didn't believe her. I just smiled and shook my head.

I never said I was a victim, just giving the background story. I am just having zero luck with finding new girls. I've tried mid 20's up to 40's, no luck.
My game is pretty good. I am pretty ballsy and abrasive.

But son, even Bahe Ruth, a legend and goat (natty never took GEAR) was a strike out KING.

He's remembered as a home run king.

Food for thought young blood.

Yea, she had some feminist tendencies. I do not stay where I am not wanted, so I left. No biggie. I did want to have sex with her, but I guess the feeling was not mutual. Not going to cry over spilled milk, just moved on.
Feminism, cratered SMV, plummeted SMV, SJWs, single moms, high kill count, green hair, victimhood, fat, etc is all a red flag.

When I met her, she was an easy 8-9, over time and since marriage, she fell to a 5. Stopped wearing perfume, sexy clothing, make-up, her ring, shaving her legs, pubic area and arm pits. I had no idea what I married. She's Sicilian, so they can get quite hairy in those areas. It was like being with the creature from the blue lagoon.
There's beautiful women everywhere when on top form but, top form SMV is short lived. Men get buy into the con.

Have no inner circle. Starting socially from scratch, and it's is not easy. Since my divorce, I've turned into a loner mostly and working on myself.
I know.

Check rsd inner circle.

Facebook rsd inner circle in whatever city your in.

Find people, men like yourself who want this step up, meet friends, and go get baee.

In future, a gf is perma poon. It doesn't mean dad bod and **** off on your dreams/life/friends/family!


Call all in.
 

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Hi and welcome to the forum.

Your ex sounds very much like a narcissistic. Sorry you had to deal with that. Your struggle reminds me a lot of mine. Was with my ex for 6 years, married for the last 1.5 years. She had BPD but BPD people have a lot of narcissistic traits. Never took care of me and I always took care of her. Very selfish.

I also live in the 'burbs outside of the city and I have experienced the same as you with dating. Many people are either so entitled or so lazy or just plain have so many options that they simply won't consider someone who isn't within walking distance of their front door. This is one of the many down-sides to OLD - too many options causes people to be overly picky, lazy, and think they are something they aren't. I actually got to the point where I would go into the city, then I would go into app permissions on my phone and disable GPS permissions to Bumble while I was down there so it locked my location to the downtown city center, even after I would leave. That really helped get more matches. When I first got into online dating, it took a long time for me to start calibrating my radar to how a girl will look in real life vs how she looks in her pics. There are a lot of things to look for like angles, only selfies, only pics from the waist-up, lots of filters, always in big puffy dresses, etc. It took experience. If you don't nail your profile description and all your pics, you are going to match with overweight 4's and below.

I can tell based on the things you are saying that you are still pretty down and have low self-esteem, at least in some areas. You are looking for reasons to criticize yourself and feel like a loser. It's understandable, given your situation, but I can guarantee you that no matter what, this is coming out in your interactions with women on your dates and it is preventing you from succeeding. You cannot hide it even if you try. I learned this the hard way. Now, when I'm going through a rough patch, I don't even bother dating because I know they can smell it on me, even if I'm nothing but upbeat and positive in front of them. Women are far more tuned into body language and communication dynamics than men - you can't hide things from them so don't try. You need to focus on doing whatever it is you need to do in order to not be depressed, not feel sorry for yourself, not be down. Instead you need to be totally confident, happy, and complete. You can get there while single. Hell, I'd wager to say more single people meet that description than married people! Most married people are miserable or at least not very happy. If you need to see a therapist and/or get on some meds to help you in that journey, do it.

A selection of things that I have learned which may apply to you based on what you've said, and have really helped me:
- Do not judge yourself or let others judge you based on your success or failure with women. Period.
- Become realistic in what a women can really offer you - it is a lot less than you probably think. It isn't happiness (only you can provide that). There is no fairy tale - the one you've been brought up to believe is a lie, and you don't NEED a woman to be happy or complete
- The more friends I make, the more I grow my social circle, and the more time I spend around friends and making new ones, the less I care about women. This alone makes you happier, cures loneliness, and also makes you more aloof and less needy and that increases your attraction to women.
- Know that dating today is very different from dating 10+ years ago and it is going to take a while to learn. Read the DJ Bible here, as well as all the other articles available. Read The Rational Male (I don't agree with all of it but it definitely gives you some things to think about). There is a huge learning curve to online dating. When I finally got it, I had 100x the options I had before. When you are not having any luck in online dating, it tends to be a real hit to the ego and I can tell from you repeatedly bringing up your online dating failures that this is happening to you. Remember point #1 - do not judge yourself based on your success or failure with women. Do learn from your failures and do additional research and experiment on how to get better at online dating, game, escalation, etc, but don't feel you are less of a person because you aren't getting girls right and left. It's like a muscle..... it takes time and work to develop.

As for where you are living - I would strongly consider moving into the city. But not just for women; it can do positive things for your social life. Many more events, social gatherings, meet-ups, etc. I'm in the process of moving back to the city currently. Get into a sport, group event, etc. Meet people through that. You have to work at it. Making friends is a lot like dating. You do have to put effort into it. Try organizing some things and inviting people to join. Use Facebook for that. Add everyone you meet to FB and see if any of them have stated they are interested in any events. Events on FB are a good place to find cool things to go and do as well. If you feel like you are a loner, have you considered that you may have social anxiety issues? If so, getting past that will help you uncover your true self and release your true potential.
 

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Good post and I would agree!

I will never get in a sexless relationship and no other man should as well. I believe if a woman cuts off sex, you are free to cheat or walk. You do not bargain for sex... ever! Sex is non negotiable.

Also, it sounds like you had some major supplication in this relationship as well. Didn't want to bother her to take you to the hospital? Gave her credit cards to help her score? I am sure there was an insurmountable list of tasks you performed which did one thing... lost her respect. You always ask people to do things for you, even if it's small and even if you can do it yourself easily. It is a very natural leadership quality and very natural for women to submit. For example, "Baby, can you grab me a beer?" Then show appreciation or comment how you love her tight ass. By not asking her for help, it actually shows weakness more than strength.

And the last thing. By the judge of the situation, there were likely many things you ignored prior to marriage.

She doesnt clean. How was her place prior to marriage? When you spent time together, did she clean up after you to? Did you see her clean regularly? How much did she clean when she was young? People dont just change overnight, this shizz just doesn't happen for core values.

You look at the way someone behaves when they think nobody is watching, not when you are watching...

And agreed with above, quit it with the victim nonsense. You should thank her because your life is just getting started.
Great post.

I should add, OP needs to read the DJ bible 1st, understand it, have the proper mindset before even thinking abt having a social life with women.

Work on ur Frame.

The rest will automatically follow through.
 

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My game is pretty good. I am pretty ballsy and abrasive.

But son, even Bahe Ruth, a legend and goat (natty never took GEAR) was a strike out KING.

He's remembered as a home run king.

Food for thought young blood.



Feminism, cratered SMV, plummeted SMV, SJWs, single moms, high kill count, green hair, victimhood, fat, etc is all a red flag.



There's beautiful women everywhere when on top form but, top form SMV is short lived. Men get buy into the con.



I know.

Check rsd inner circle.

Facebook rsd inner circle in whatever city your in.

Find people, men like yourself who want this step up, meet friends, and go get baee.

In future, a gf is perma poon. It doesn't mean dad bod and **** off on your dreams/life/friends/family!


Call all in.

Good points. Clearly I have a lot of work to do on myself.
 

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Hey Oldman, Thank you for your detailed POV. You also hit on a lot of things I am going through. I am not depressed, just frustrated at my social life. I had an feeling in my stomach that the marriage was not going to work, but so many things were coming at me at once, I caved into the pressure. I am not blaming anyone but myself. I had the power to call of the wedding, and I failed. My mind was so sure it was going to fail that I met with a divorce lawyer prior to marriage to go over how to protect my savings and home in the case of divorce. He suggested a prenup, but that didn't go over well. She flipped out when I suggested it. That should had been the first sign, but I was thinking who else would want me, so I caved again and back peddled. I was actually thinking the marriage was going okay until I over heard her talking about us and I just was crushed when her real feelings were revealed to everyone but me (I really felt like a freaking laughing stock, so I stopped going to her family events. She was at one last dinner with my family and made fun of my medical issues. She was the only one who thought it was funny. She said the way he walks, he sounds like Man-of-Arms - so embarrassing). I knew at that time, I had to have a backbone and plan for a divorce on my time table, not hers. From the first I heard of her true feelings of me (even her friends and family said there was something wrong with her thinking a number of times about me), I knew it was going to get worse and I needed to plan my exit. There were many telltale signs I missed. Sporadic sex during the engagement stage, not inviting me out to her friends and co-workers, not wearing her ring, not taking my name when it was agreed prior (and she announced to her family that she would), not going to counseling, no interest in trying for a kid anymore, telling me to pull out when we did have sex, but for the last 5+ years wanted me to ejaculate inside her, not trying to work on the marriage, not sharing in the household duties, communication failures, request for an open marriage (a year in), etc. After I heard that junk, I made up my mind to jettison her. 3.5 months later I got her to leave on her own; which was a big legal win.

I do not have social anxiety issues. I public speak all the time for work in front of hundreds of people. However, there are some issues that I am still going through that makes socializing a choir. I suffer from cluster headaches from time to time. I am in a lot of pain due to the accident. The multiple surgeries helped a lot, but my neck does lock up from time to time. More surgeries to come, but they feel I will eventually be okay. I have a medical marijuana license, so that helps. Basically, that accident ruined my social life. Thus, I tried hard to hang on to my ex-wife for better or worse. I can take a lot of things, but I draw the line at disrespect. She had many issues where I had to help. Normally, I naturally assumed, since she was my wife, I was legally and morally responsible for her safety and well being. She had issues at work, so since I work independently for the city counsel, I smoothed things over for her multiple times. Once we got married, she was treated much better at work. The CEO of her hospital even walked up to her to confirm I was her husband. She was given a much bigger rope to hang herself; which she eventually did. She had a big problem a month before I kicked her out. She said can't you do something? I said, all out of favors. Besides, you said all my advice and help was wrong. You can handle it yourself.. You're a big girl. I was repeating something she said numerous times on the phone when she thought I wasn't around. She turned white as I walked away. She kept her job, but was transferred to another dept.

I learned a lot from this sham relationship. I do the bare minimum for everyone now, if anything. I help, not do, even with family. Just sick and tired of being taken advantage of. Many people mistook my kindness for weakness. They were wrong. I hired the best divorce lawyer in NJ/NYC. She didn't have a chance. She's also broke, so that helped a lot too. I received a lot of vindication from the divorce. Ironically, a lot of my pain subsided, and only acts up a couple times a week. You'd never notice it unless you know me. I have a pretty high threshold for pain. I also get steroid shots without a numbing agent in my spine and neck once a month. Never fun, but it controls the inflammation. However, I just have to watch what I do. I worry about a spasm or an attack, so that is why I limit myself going out. I do it for work, as I need to earn a living. However, it's carefully planned in advance and I have cancelled if I get the pre-pain sensations.

Life is hell. The accident ruined my social life. She often said to me, if you weren't in that accident, you would had gotten rid of me a long time ago. However, this was during the time I thought all was good. But she's right, before the accident, I would had gotten rid of her during the engagement phase if she pulled this type of bs. She once said you've not seen the real me. She only comes out when my limits are pushed. She wanted me to either put her on the deed or move near her parents. I refused on both accords. We had an agreement on if any when we'd move it would be down the line 5 - 7 years from now.

In summary, I know what to look for now. I get matches in waives. Two weeks ago, I had nearly a dozen matches that wanted to meet up. Some I closed, most just ghosted. I know I need to continue to work on myself, and I will. However, I am mentally planning myself to just go life alone. It's just how my hand in life was dealt.

I feel too pathetic to talk to anyone else about this. I guess I was looking for some direction here, which I received. I will use that and attempt to right the social ship in my life.
 
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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Good points. Clearly I have a lot of work to do on myself.
Don't we all.

Lostinlife mate, there is no end you this journey. At least, not as long as we're in this place and among the living. People want this cuck fest simple truth, happily ever after, unconditional love, and other absurdity.

Female hypergamy knows no bounds. You or I could get caught sleeping at the wheel. Women are constantly edging their bet. They're chasing Playboy. They're cratering a SMV and its on your dime. You're expected to foot the bill.

The pursuit is as Socrates says,"know thyself."

Seek self knowledge. Explore consciousness. Set the pace. DHV @ life.

You lead. She follows or #nextset!

I heard a were man rant about trying to pick a fight with her husband. Imagine if she used that energy in the gym?

A lot of men aren't doing it right. Most are cannon fodder. They're a MA o for when SMV has cratered and Chad's stop calling.

You're the prize. Act as such.

New girls are turning 18 everyday.
 

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I know it doesn't seem like it right now but you've been given a gift... The gift of a second chance. A lot of people don't get that.

You are a survivor... Time will heal... Good luck.
 

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I feel too pathetic to talk to anyone else about this. I guess I was looking for some direction here, which I received. I will use that and attempt to right the social ship in my life.
There's a Elliot hulse video on YouTube about mgtow. Its a ideal path for insight.

Free tour is free. It gets you out.

Checkout the gym. Lift something heavy. Try group classes. Tons of babes.

You want to be breaking rapport and ****ing with your routine which sucks ATM. Mix it up.

Google 30 day challenge. Start now.

Clean up your diet.

Approach three chicks a day.

Problem solve. Debrief three problems you had in a day and how to solve it. You rewire your mind to solve issues.

You've been through a trauma. You're likely rapid full of cortisol, the stress hormone. Cut that out. Start doing nature walks,hiking, jogging, meditation, and yoga.

Recalibration is in order. Keep me updated.
 

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I know it doesn't seem like it right now but you've been given a gift... The gift of a second chance. A lot of people don't get that.

You are a survivor... Time will heal... Good luck.
While I know you mean well but, there's nothing gift like about lawyer fees and a extracted Male resource's to female victimhood.
 

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Yep, I've actually been in contact with Elliot for help with stretching to help ease the pain on my discs. His inspirational videos help. I was surprised he offered to give me some advice. He also offered for me to come to FL and work with him one on one. Good man.

Yep, I am doing walks first thing in the morning; as Elliot advised. Yoga might be pushing it for me, but I will run it by the docs. I am determined to get back to 100. If I don't get there, at least I'll die trying.

I think Dingo meant that I I woke up early enough to see the true person that my ex-wife is and get the F out of that horrid marriage. I do not think she's a bad person, just bad at caring for others. Otherwise, just mad at the world and selfish. That's okay. I do not need anyone but myself. It would had been nice to go through life with a partner, but I now know better. That only works in the movies and tv. That is not real life. Most people are selfish and think about themselves, not others. I was raised differently and very self-reliant. Who knows. I can only control and work on myself, and that is what I intend to do.

I just thought sharing my story may also help others see through the rose colored glasses. When the crap hits the fan, chances are, the only one you'll be able to count on, is yourself.
 
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If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Thank you for your reply.

1) Already work out 3 - 4 days a week for 2 hours and get blood tests annually. Amazingly, my numbers are in line now, but were out of whack for many years prior.
2) Make plenty of money. After my divorce, I went into earning overdrive in building my new business.
3) All new cloths, new car (old one died - 15 years old), no debt aside from a mortgage.
4) Here's the problem. I live far from the city in the country. I do not mind driving to a metro area, but others find out where I am living and it doesn't go over well. Since most use public transportation and do not have a car, this hurts my social life. There is no train station where I live.
5) Tried, doesn't seem to work around here.
6) I do that with the women who there is zero attraction. Seems the only girl that are interested in my are one's who are overweight. I am not overweight and physically in shape. The last two years in attempting to date have been brutal. First one I dated after my divorce was a pure nutcase. Second one, we were moving towards a relationship after 3 months where she said she finally found the one she was looking for. She then found out that I have a couple of members in my family what went to prison (not me) for investment and embezzlement, so she disappeared after that. The one after that, ghosted me after sex, then reappeared and said I really like you, but it's not going to work out, so I said okay, bye. The forth one was baby crazy and wanted me to pay for everything, so I said this isn't for me, bye.
7) See above.

I'm debating getting a place, let a co-op in metro, but I really do not like living in the city. I know when I did live in the city, I had no issues in getting dates and sex. However, that was 8+ years ago. I was told dating was easier when you get older, it's brutal. I am better financially and in much better shape. My BMI was overweight / obese then, and now it's in line. I went from an XXL to a L in shirts, 18 inch neck to 15.6/7 inch neck, 36 waist to 30/32 inch waste. I will continue to better myself as I've lost the fat, but now need to build muscle. However, I've never felt so sh*tty about my dating prospects. My mind things I will either have to settle for a overweight girl or be alone; neither of which I want. Heck, the last date I had was a few weeks ago and she was bigger than in her picture. I still continued with her thinking I need the practice anyway, and she even ghosted me. I am usually focusing on my business, so I only reach out to girls once a week or so, but if a girl reach out to me, I usually get back to them in a few hours. Again, at a complete loss.

How can someone be "winning" in life, but a complete failure with dating? This is how I feel.
Your older more money more fit . When you were younger did you have a long checklist or were you just banging the available pvssy?

We were saying "sniper" mode doesn't work neither does "trying" to get a girlfriend .
 

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Your older more money more fit . When you were younger did you have a long checklist or were you just banging the available pvssy?

We were saying "sniper" mode doesn't work neither does "trying" to get a girlfriend .
Checklist has gone down slowly. Never dated an over-weight girl prior to my divorce... I just couldn't do it. I would say, prob. went down after my divorce due to the rejection. That one over-weight one was a blow. I was trying to just get some field experience. After that, I dated a girl for a couple of months who was basically flat A cup. She ghosted after a weekend of sex which I thought was pretty odd. Before that, I dated a girl who was living with her mom, that was very interesting. I could only take a few weeks of that and then I said it wasn't working and wished her well. There was one before that one that I forgot, hot as hell. But she'll withhold sex and wanted me to pay for everything and I refused. She agreed reluctantly to switch off paying for things, but continued to withhold sex. I dumped her the next day and wished her well. Her reply, shame you're not a real man. A real man takes care of his woman. I didn't reply and just deleted her number. I take everything in stride, but I get rid of them when they act like entitled little brats. I have a zero tolerance policy since my divorce. And if they walk too, okay. I only fell once for a girl and chased her a bit. Never again.

I am not trying to get a girlfriend.. I am trying to get a date and then see where it goes. When they ghost or whatever, I've taken enough hits that it doesn't bother me as much anymore. I am sure, in time, it will sting less and less.

In summary, if the girl wasn't at least average looks, in shape and had her own place, I was game. Now, I still need to be attracted to her, but becoming flexible with in shape, and it seems many still live with their family; which I find really weird. I think it's because I am around a lot of Italian neighborhoods, so maybe that's why they live with their parents? Not sure. I am considering wavering on allowing that. The looks and the in-shape it's really hard for me. As, if I can keep myself in-shape and BMI, there's no reason why a girl can't. I just think if a girl is not in shape, they do not care about themselves enough. She doesn't have to look like Maria Menounos, but a body like Ariel Winter is acceptable.
 

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Checklist has gone down slowly. Never dated an over-weight girl prior to my divorce... I just couldn't do it. I would say, prob. went down after my divorce due to the rejection. That one over-weight one was a blow. I was trying to just get some field experience. After that, I dated a girl for a couple of months who was basically flat A cup. She ghosted after a weekend of sex which I thought was pretty odd. Before that, I dated a girl who was living with her mom, that was very interesting. I could only take a few weeks of that and then I said it wasn't working and wished her well. There was one before that one that I forgot, hot as hell. But she'll withhold sex and wanted me to pay for everything and I refused. She agreed reluctantly to switch off paying for things, but continued to withhold sex. I dumped her the next day and wished her well. Her reply, shame you're not a real man. A real man takes care of his woman. I didn't reply and just deleted her number. I take everything in stride, but I get rid of them when they act like entitled little brats. I have a zero tolerance policy since my divorce. And if they walk too, okay. I only fell once for a girl and chased her a bit. Never again.

I am not trying to get a girlfriend.. I am trying to get a date and then see where it goes. When they ghost or whatever, I've taken enough hits that it doesn't bother me as much anymore. I am sure, in time, it will sting less and less.

In summary, if the girl wasn't at least average looks, in shape and had her own place, I was game. Now, I still need to be attracted to her, but becoming flexible with in shape, and it seems many still live with their family; which I find really weird. I think it's because I am around a lot of Italian neighborhoods, so maybe that's why they live with their parents? Not sure. I am considering wavering on allowing that. The looks and the in-shape it's really hard for me. As, if I can keep myself in-shape and BMI, there's no reason why a girl can't. I just think if a girl is not in shape, they do not care about themselves enough. She doesn't have to look like Maria Menounos, but a body like Ariel Winter is acceptable.
Maybe you need the 25-35 yo that's still in "ho" mode. Your good enough for it. Just don't try and lock em down .
 

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Maybe you need the 25-35 yo that's still in "ho" mode. Your good enough for it. Just don't try and lock em down .
That's the age range I shoot for. I just looked at my Match account and in the last two months, I reached t 318 girls. I think 6 replied once, then stopped. I even sunk 300 bills for a photographer. No help at all. Actually, I think my pics are better than the photographers. I do not like my stance nor my facial smiles. After 3+ hours of smiling, you can see it just wasn't a good idea. Personally, I think I look better in person or on video. I should just link to my city hall speeches.. Hehehe. I started to listen to Alpha Male Strategies a few weeks ago. He says to lay off the online dating crap as it's a waste. I am tending to agree. 6 replies out of 318. Just kills any ego I had; and I don't really have an ego. Not that I do not think I am good enough, it's that I treat everyone on the same level as me. I guess that's bad or something these days.
 

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That's the age range I shoot for. I just looked at my Match account and in the last two months, I reached t 318 girls. I think 6 replied once, then stopped. I even sunk 300 bills for a photographer. No help at all. Actually, I think my pics are better than the photographers. I do not like my stance nor my facial smiles. After 3+ hours of smiling, you can see it just wasn't a good idea. Personally, I think I look better in person or on video. I should just link to my city hall speeches.. Hehehe. I started to listen to Alpha Male Strategies a few weeks ago. He says to lay off the online dating crap as it's a waste. I am tending to agree. 6 replies out of 318. Just kills any ego I had; and I don't really have an ego. Not that I do not think I am good enough, it's that I treat everyone on the same level as me. I guess that's bad or something these days.
I'm not pretentious either. But maybe their used to being treated a certain way .
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

strikerace13

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Have you thought about just having a apartment in the city to just get sex and learn how to use the things on here to put into practice. Kind of like relearning everything from scratch to build your self to the point where you can kick a girl to the curb.
 

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I don't have anything to offer but I'm following this thread with interest. I'm sort of in a similar situation where my social circle is very limited (I'm in my 40s). I have friends but all of them with their own family lives, none I can ask to hang out with by saying 'hey let's go to such and such this weekend'. Oh and online dating is a huge downer. The only one I've had good luck with is CMB (it's an app)- and I've tried about 8 or 9 popular online sites/apps. However, in your case it sounds like it's more your location that's the issue.
 

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Have you thought about just having a apartment in the city to just get sex and learn how to use the things on here to put into practice. Kind of like relearning everything from scratch to build your self to the point where you can kick a girl to the curb.
I've thought about that. Rent is crazy expensive though. I've been looking at foreclosures/short sales as well. So far, everything is sky high.

I don't have anything to offer but I'm following this thread with interest. I'm sort of in a similar situation where my social circle is very limited (I'm in my 40s). I have friends but all of them with their own family lives, none I can ask to hang out with by saying 'hey let's go to such and such this weekend'. Oh and online dating is a huge downer. The only one I've had good luck with is CMB (it's an app)- and I've tried about 8 or 9 popular online sites/apps. However, in your case it sounds like it's more your location that's the issue.
Yea, I made a mistake moving to my current location. After I booted the ex-wife, I really made some nice upgrades to the home. I'd hate to sell it, but the cost of living would be so much higher in the metro area. I even looked in northern NJ, the rents are crazy expensive. I am familiar with Coffee Meets Bagel. If I was in the metro, I know my social life would improve, but home life would suffer. Who wants to live in a 500 sq. ft apt in a noisy metro area? Plus, when I lived in the city, in a good area, the walls were paper thin and you can hear and smell other people.

I've disengaged from online dating. A women was interested in meeting up, but she didn't reply for her cell, I asked again on Monday. She got back to me today stating happy to meet up some where, but I don't give my number out to strangers. Had an issue with another guy having my cell. Well, I am not going to a place and meet someone who I have no way of contacting. So, I guess we're at a stalemate, be well.

I'm done with these these games these girls play. I thought navigating local and state politics was tough. That has nothing on relating with women in the dating arena.
 

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I use a burner phone number since my name is pretty unique just by putting that in and my city you can pull just about everything about me. So use something like Google Voice or Text for Free to get a valid but a virtual ph#.

I'm totally with you on the crowded city life, in fact, my plan is to retire early (been working on it for years even after the divorce wiped me out 50% financially I'm on track) and move to the country with some acreage. I don't care for a big house but definitely want elbow room and privacy because people are obnoxious now (since I'm in my 'get off my lawn' age) lol However, I always imagined it would be with a woman...so at this point in my life I'm not ready to give up on women altogether. I don't need to meet one tomorrow or next week so I'm not desperate- I just stay busy with my hobbies and goals in life but I also spend some time on CMB to see if there's anything worthwhile hooked on the line ;)
 

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I use a burner phone number since my name is pretty unique just by putting that in and my city you can pull just about everything about me. So use something like Google Voice or Text for Free to get a valid but a virtual ph#.

I'm totally with you on the crowded city life, in fact, my plan is to retire early (been working on it for years even after the divorce wiped me out 50% financially I'm on track) and move to the country with some acreage. I don't care for a big house but definitely want elbow room and privacy because people are obnoxious now (since I'm in my 'get off my lawn' age) lol However, I always imagined it would be with a woman...so at this point in my life I'm not ready to give up on women altogether. I don't need to meet one tomorrow or next week so I'm not desperate- I just stay busy with my hobbies and goals in life but I also spend some time on CMB to see if there's anything worthwhile hooked on the line ;)
No doubt. I get what you are saying. I just like the peace and quiet after working a long day. Being cramped up in a stuffy apt.; especially with the the rainy or snowy weather in middle NJ is no picnic. At least in a house it's not cramped. I already use a Google Voice number strictly for dating. I used to use my cell, but after I had a woman stalk me on the internet, I am using Google Voice instead. I also do not have any social media accounts. One can google my number and find nothing about me. If you use my cell, well, then you find about me, my career, gov't work, etc. Way too risky in this day and age.

What a world we live in. I am trying to find some good meetup groups that do some things. There's a bowling and tennis one, but my docs suggested I wait a year until the final surgery is completed. I will then be okay for physical activity such as bowling and tennis; which I love both. However, the closest meetup is a good 30 miles. away. Thus, if I ever meet a girl there, not the intension, but it's happened two times before prior to marriage (though I was in the city), I am sure me living 30 miles away isn't going to go over well. Yes, I've reached out to all the girls living in my city, town and county. They looked at my profile, but never replied. Strange. Even though my profile is now hidden, I received a like from an attractive blond in Manhattan. I wonder if they even look at the locations before they swipe? Chances are, she doesn't have a car in Manhattan, so it's pointless to even reply. She's also my age, so another nail in the coffin. Wasted too much time with my ex.

Sorry to hear you were fleeced in your divorce. I know several men who were also taken to the cleaners. Aside from dying, marriage is the most impactful event of our lives. Yet, no one tells us of the pitfalls of marriage should it fail. Since we're now over 50% conservative failure rate, it's not a good bet to take. Trust when I say girls know what they are doing when they enter marriage. Men, we're generally clueless until it's too late. I hope you will be okay financially. It amazes me these laws are so unfair.
 
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