Losing a girl's interest after kissing her on the first date/meet

[Reyaj]

So I think I'm a good kisser and have been told so several times from different girls I've hooked up with.

However I've equally lost girl's interest in me doing so as well. I read an old article on here years ago regarding kissing to start slow and soft and let the woman guide it. We have all heard women complain about guys shoving their tongues down their throats or being sloppy.

So what gives when a girl says "she didn't feel anything in the kiss" and then loses interest? This is the same kiss I've given other women and their IL in my skyrocketed and I end up banging them.

I know almost 100% the girls that said "they didn't feel anything" in the kiss were into me prior to rhat event.

This makes me think about the "chemistry" theory they often talk about may have merit..

 

[Mazer]

So I think I'm a good kisser and have been told so several times from different girls I've hooked up with.

However I've equally lost girl's interest in me doing so as well. I read an old article on here years ago regarding kissing to start slow and soft and let the woman guide it. We have all heard women complain about guys shoving their tongues down their throats or being sloppy.

So what gives when a girl says "she didn't feel anything in the kiss" and then loses interest? This is the same kiss I've given other women and their IL in my skyrocketed and I end up banging them.

I know almost 100% the girls that said "they didn't feel anything" in the kiss were into me prior to rhat event.

This makes me think about the "chemistry" theory they often talk about may have merit..

I dont think I have ever heard that line from a woman. Sounds like a real winner. Who cares, move on to the next chick. Its a numbers game, there are more women to be kissed. If she is interested, she will contact you, and when she does, invite her out and make her "feel something" by banging her out.

 

[wifehunter]

Your timing may be a bit off.

Did the situation call for a kiss?

 

[Isildur1]

Alot of girls may at the time really have wanted to kiss you then after further thought afterwards might have been like " nah he's not all that" and move on. This has happened to me on countless occasions. Not that you've done anything bad or wrong it's just the way sometimes it pans out. Focus more on the dating dyanmic and the discussion that lead to and after the kiss instead. It's probably here that you're either doing something wrong or something has changed inside her that's beyond your control.

 

[stovepipe]

Trying to figure it out is a waste of time. Just move on to the next. It happens, part of life.

 

[aleste82]

How comes the best advise is always to move on and Next, when our heart is filled with oneitis, obsession and desire of perseverance ?
Are we betraying the god of Nature ?

 

[stovepipe]

How comes the best advise is always to move on and Next, when our heart is filled with oneitis, obsession and desire of perseverance ?
Are we betraying the god of Nature ?

Nope. Having a heart/oneitis in these current times will only get you hurt 95% of the time. Yeah I pulled that # out my a$$. Lets be honest here, it's raining shady b!tches everywhere! These days you gotta protect your heart. Never put two feet into a relationship or any women for that matter. Always be willing to walk away with zero fuks. I myself had to learn the hard way.

I'm seeing alpha men I've known for over 20 years who never shed a single tear, got a$$ like it was nothing and would kick the living **** out of anybody who disrespected them. Those same men are now crying like little boys cause they got cheated on. I'm telling you now, the world is breeding Cluster B's at an alarming rate. The internet and social media has played a huge role. I can only imagine what women will be like 20 years from now.

FB and Instagram have become so cringe worthy. So many women slutting it up for constant validation, likes and beta followers. If social media got shut down for a month, I can only imagine how many would commit suicide due to having no supply.

 

[Reyaj]

I dont think I have ever heard that line from a woman. Sounds like a real winner. Who cares, move on to the next chick. Its a numbers game, there are more women to be kissed. If she is interested, she will contact you, and when she does, invite her out and make her "feel something" by banging her out.

You're right. I have heard it a few times but I've also heard I'm a great kisser as well and have had chicks all over my junk. I'm thinking it has more to do with the timing of it.. I did kind of do it out of nowhere in the middle of her talking lol

Interest wasn't as high as the outward signs led you to believe. Chemistry et Al is a real factor at the margin but when you are very high value to them they will invent chemistry if needed to rationalize being with you.

I am pretty sure she was interested. Trust me I've had many times where I could see that she wasn't.. She thought I was high value (she thought I had a high paying job and she saw my car which is expensive)

Your timing may be a bit off.

Did the situation call for a kiss?

You're probably close to what the real issue was... I basically was in her car with her and she kept talking and thanking me for seeing her and talking to her etc.. I was buzzed, had isolation and had in my head I was going to kiss her so i just went in.. and a few times after. She kissed me back each time and I held her hand and she rubbed mine. After we got back she kept texting me asking me what I thought of the kiss.. I said "you tell me " She was like "I asked first" so I said I liked it very much. She replied "she was glad" but never said she did. So I think I shouldn't have showed her my cards.. but I didn't care she's just a meaningless plate I was trying to bang.

Alot of girls may at the time really have wanted to kiss you then after further thought afterwards might have been like " nah he's not all that" and move on. This has happened to me on countless occasions. Not that you've done anything bad or wrong it's just the way sometimes it pans out. Focus more on the dating dyanmic and the discussion that lead to and after the kiss instead. It's probably here that you're either doing something wrong or something has changed inside her that's beyond your control.

Right! So you can relate to this... Do you think its wise to go for the kiss the first time meeting? Since I am in a relationship and I used to be shy prior I tend to go for it unless there is obvious disinterest. But maybe if I were single I'd be more patient and care... Do you think its going for it to soon or going back in for more on the first date that's the issue?

Trying to figure it out is a waste of time. Just move on to the next. It happens, part of life.

I'm a hypocrite cause I gave that biker who dresses like GQ the same advice and here I am posting about it.. I guess when something happens more than once you tend to want to look inward.

How comes the best advise is always to move on and Next, when our heart is filled with oneitis, obsession and desire of perseverance ?
Are we betraying the god of Nature ?

The "next" paradigm is really meant to protect our egos. I think it's just and necessary but I too struggle with the line of when to not care versus when you should care in case you're doing something wrong. So far my conclusion is that girls are wack in the head so next is the best course for self preservation.

Nope. Having a heart/oneitis in these current times will only get you hurt 95% of the time. Yeah I pulled that # out my a$$. Lets be honest here, it's raining shady b!tches everywhere! These days you gotta protect your heart. Never put two feet into a relationship or any women for that matter. Always be willing to walk away with zero fuks. I myself had to learn the hard way.

I'm seeing alpha men I've known for over 20 years who never shed a single tear, got a$$ like it was nothing and would kick the living **** out of anybody who disrespected them. Those same men are now crying like little boys cause they got cheated on. I'm telling you now, the world is breeding Cluster B's at an alarming rate. The internet and social media has played a huge role. I can only imagine what women will be like 20 years from now.

FB and Instagram have become so cringe worthy. So many women slutting it up for constant validation, likes and beta followers. If social media got shut down for a month, I can only imagine how many would commit suicide due to having no supply.

Yep lol

 

[Masculinity]

So I think I'm a good kisser and have been told so several times from different girls I've hooked up with.

However I've equally lost girl's interest in me doing so as well. I read an old article on here years ago regarding kissing to start slow and soft and let the woman guide it. We have all heard women complain about guys shoving their tongues down their throats or being sloppy.

So what gives when a girl says "she didn't feel anything in the kiss" and then loses interest? This is the same kiss I've given other women and their IL in my skyrocketed and I end up banging them.

I know almost 100% the girls that said "they didn't feel anything" in the kiss were into me prior to rhat event.

This makes me think about the "chemistry" theory they often talk about may have merit..

You lose some; you get some.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

So I think I'm a good kisser and have been told so several times from different girls I've hooked up with.

However I've equally lost girl's interest in me doing so as well. I read an old article on here years ago regarding kissing to start slow and soft and let the woman guide it. We have all heard women complain about guys shoving their tongues down their throats or being sloppy.

So what gives when a girl says "she didn't feel anything in the kiss" and then loses interest? This is the same kiss I've given other women and their IL in my skyrocketed and I end up banging them.

I know almost 100% the girls that said "they didn't feel anything" in the kiss were into me prior to rhat event.

This makes me think about the "chemistry" theory they often talk about may have merit..

It's female logic for her hypergamy and seeking bigger better prize. #nextset

Go get babes.

Her fertility and biology is failing her. When it does, you can run into her with a hot young girl on your arm as she gets fat. There is no sweeter feel. None. It's better than sex sometimes lol


Always go for the kiss. Life's too boring not to try. If she isn't putting out after three hangouts, next her. She can hit you up but low sex drive is a deal breaker. Not in the mood means next set.

You mean to say, if drake was making out, she wouldn't feel anything?

More like she gets skull ****ed and gang banged with his entourage.


Go get babes. Top form or Netflix and chill.

It's a zero sum game.

The stakes are high. Spam approaches.

Tomorrow, new girls will be turning 18 everyday. Come at me bro!

I want to take this time to apologize to absolutely nobody.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

The "next" paradigm is really meant to protect our egos.

Are you new?

Next set wash/ribse/repeat is to get men into adopting go getter abundance mentality.

99.99999% of men settle for the first semi decent woman willing on the tail end or decline of her SMV. They marry Chad's booty call and *** dumpster.

Next set is the biggest game changer there is.

That being, NEW GIRLS ARE TURNING 18/19/20/21 EVERYDAY!

COME @ ME BRO.

Step your game up kuz.

 

[EyeBRollin]

You don't have to kiss on the first date.

The way I see it - the kiss either gets you laid faster or nexted faster. If you want to hang around and solidify that interest level, don't kiss her on the first date. I'd argue that your closing rate is higher long-term for not kissing the girl, but you obviously won't be getting laid on the first date or two.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

You don't have to kiss on the first date.

The way I see it - the kiss either gets you laid faster or nexted faster. If you want to hang around and solidify that interest level, don't kiss her on the first date. I'd argue that your closing rate is higher long-term for not kissing the girl, but you obviously won't be getting laid on the first date or two.

+1

Imho after years of pickup, I either hit a grand slam or I slow play it.

Why make out, get a semi, then fap? Best off make her wait. Sure she can **** other guys. Your supposed to be spinning plates.

A chick I picked up leaned out on a hug upon arrival. Leaned in to make out. Made out the second time. She kept coming back for more. I stopped. Third interaction she came into hug. I deleted her number blocked all contact. Went out to go get more baes.

If I don't hit it after 3x, #nextset!


Op quit wondering. Female hypergamy knows no bounds during top form smv. It's declining fertility and baby rabies kicking off. Still some women aren't oriented right so, nearing thirty doesn't setup her stupidity.

After years of pickup, I don't mental masturbate about girl problems. There's far too many. Girl ghosts, she saves you the trouble and time.

Acquire free thinker, not feminist, girl power, jump off slut.

Too form smv or gtfo.

 

[Reyaj]

It's female logic for her hypergamy and seeking bigger better prize. #nextset

Go get babes.

Her fertility and biology is failing her. When it does, you can run into her with a hot young girl on your arm as she gets fat. There is no sweeter feel. None. It's better than sex sometimes lol


Always go for the kiss. Life's too boring not to try. If she isn't putting out after three hangouts, next her. She can hit you up but low sex drive is a deal breaker. Not in the mood means next set.

You mean to say, if drake was making out, she wouldn't feel anything?

More like she gets skull ****ed and gang banged with his entourage.


Go get babes. Top form or Netflix and chill.

It's a zero sum game.

The stakes are high. Spam approaches.

Tomorrow, new girls will be turning 18 everyday. Come at me bro!

I want to take this time to apologize to absolutely nobody.

Yeah i generally have that kiss on the first date mentality especially if there's drinks. For the first time in a while though I didn't do it on my last date a week ago. I just felt some awkward tension from her and i feel she announced indirectly not wanting it. I can't say i regret it though cause it really felt like she didn't want to.

but yeah the chick this thread was about is one of these habitual POF online lifers.. so i feel you can't take anything personal with them as they are broken.

You don't have to kiss on the first date.

The way I see it - the kiss either gets you laid faster or nexted faster. If you want to hang around and solidify that interest level, don't kiss her on the first date. I'd argue that your closing rate is higher long-term for not kissing the girl, but you obviously won't be getting laid on the first date or two.

You are probably right.. I have a girl that's why I've been doing it lol But yeah if I was single I'd probably be more careful. Maybe that's what's going on here... I am not courting these women the way I would if I was single.

+1

Imho after years of pickup, I either hit a grand slam or I slow play it.

Why make out, get a semi, then fap? Best off make her wait. Sure she can **** other guys. Your supposed to be spinning plates.

A chick I picked up leaned out on a hug upon arrival. Leaned in to make out. Made out the second time. She kept coming back for more. I stopped. Third interaction she came into hug. I deleted her number blocked all contact. Went out to go get more baes.

If I don't hit it after 3x, #nextset!


Op quit wondering. Female hypergamy knows no bounds during top form smv. It's declining fertility and baby rabies kicking off. Still some women aren't oriented right so, nearing thirty doesn't setup her stupidity.

After years of pickup, I don't mental masturbate about girl problems. There's far too many. Girl ghosts, she saves you the trouble and time.

Acquire free thinker, not feminist, girl power, jump off slut.

Too form smv or gtfo.

Yeah I've already got others spinning. Just trying to document this stuff and see if there's anything specific to learn from.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Yeah i generally have that kiss on the first date mentality especially if there's drinks. For the first time in a while though I didn't do it on my last date a week ago. I just felt some awkward tension from her and i feel she announced indirectly not wanting it. I can't say i regret it though cause it really felt like she didn't want to.

but yeah the chick this thread was about is one of these habitual POF online lifers.. so i feel you can't take anything personal with them as they are broken.

How old are you? Her?

At thirty, I have zero interest in nonsense.

In 2018, it's a promo for sloot gonna sloot, proud single mom, and female logic on Gear. I am talking tren from go. It's girl power.

If she craters smv, she's got society singing her praises, and victim hood to fall back on. If she gets pregnant, she's a proud single mom, allocated make resources or daddy gov to fallback on.

It's why women are antifragile like Taleb talks about in his book similar to the accountants lawyers and law makers in 2008. If they win, they win big. If they lose, it's not their money lost but the bubble will break.

You have a choice. Step up or get stepped on. Be forged in fire or play it safe follow the beaten path. Get married. Raise Chad's bastard children and marry cratered smv.

I won't. I will lead. She follows or next.

In the #metoo Era, women are weaponized. Learn faster. Be smarter. Get better. Not bitter.

If she's not on top form smv (ie thin/young /attractive on the early side of 20), #donotwant!

Netflix and chill ftw.

you are probably right.. I have a girl that's why I've been doing it lol But yeah if I was single I'd probably be more careful. Maybe that's what's going on here... I am not courting these women the way I would if I was single.

Yeah I've already got others spinning. Just trying to document this stuff and see if there's anything specific to learn from.

I casually hang and I hop location's.

Time restrain always. Location of choice is coffee. It's cheap. I rarely if ever buy. Women initiate a buy. It's more a matter of being conformist than actually genuine. Women buy and offer for Saud reason. Same thing as independent. No. She is not.

Look at the royal wedding.

She's a red flag.

Not on top form smv, 30+, divorced, single mom upbringing, dysfunctional family, product of such.

Netflix and chill. Not swear away resources.

The 80/20 principle - women banged out by 20% of the Chad's.

Top form smv for Chad's. Baby rabies for. Betas and once smv has plummeted.


Unplug. Wake up. Top form smv or gtfo

 

[Reyaj]

bump

 

[R.U.G.]

Sounds like a real winner. I've never heard of a woman telling me this to a man's face either. OP, you are 40 years of age. You should know never to kiss on the first date. Give them a hug and walk away. Attraction builds over time. If you do not kiss her, she will be wondering and second guessing herself on why you didn't act like all the other guys she's dated and kissed on the first date. Thus, she'll be thinking about you and building attraction.

As for this, well, if she didn't feeling anything, then it is what it is. Move on. Can't really come back from that. Next time, follow my advice and you will be golden. Guaranteed or your money back!

 

[wifehunter]

Why kiss someone you barely know?

Seems really stupid.

 

[R.U.G.]

Why kiss someone you barely know?

Seems really stupid.

Many men attempt to kiss on the first date as it's ingrained in our heads. Unless super high interest, not always a good idea. For women, interest builds over time, where men build pretty instantaneously (I.E. she's attractive). Hence, it's always best to hug and smile, let it marinate until the next date (if there is one), and then go for a kiss.

 

[BreezyB84]

Many men attempt to kiss on the first date as it's ingrained in our heads. Unless super high interest, not always a good idea. For women, interest builds over time, where men build pretty instantaneously (I.E. she's attractive). Hence, it's always best to hug and smile, let it marinate until the next date (if there is one), and then go for a kiss.

Someone needs to clarify this for me... All over the site and forum, its taught that you need to escalate, escalate, escalate or am I missing something here....?