Most prettiest girl I've "dated"--->> Please help I dont want to screw this up

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I AM SO PISSED OFF......JUST HAD A HUGE FIGHT WITH THIS B.ITCH!!!

SHE IS SOOO MENTALLY F.UCKED!! ITS UNBELIEVABLE..

I THREW DEEP BARS AT HER...

RIGHT NOW I JUST FEEL LIKE DELETING THE OLD APPS OFF MY PHONE AND CALLING IT A WRAP!1

I just cant stand when some girls, create lame excuses just to stop seeing you.

sorry for the caps i am just pissed off

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I AM SO PISSED OFF......JUST HAD A HUGE FIGHT WITH THIS B.ITCH!!!

SHE IS SOOO MENTALLY F.UCKED!! ITS UNBELIEVABLE..

I THREW DEEP BARS AT HER...

RIGHT NOW I JUST FEEL LIKE DELETING THE OLD APPS OFF MY PHONE AND CALLING IT A WRAP!1

I just cant stand when some girls, create lame excuses just to stop seeing you.

sorry for the caps i am just pissed off

Don't know what you're so upset about.....We told you from PAGE 1 that you'd ALREADY screwed up.

In fact,you messed up before you even made this thread seeking help. You just didn't understand....and STILL DON'T.

And as hard as we tried,we couldn't get you to understand. That's why people kept saying that you were "beyond help" and how they felt it was pointless to say anything to you,cause no matter what anyone said,you never seemed to learn.


People keep wanting to ignore advice aimed at fixing internal issues,and opt instead for some kind of quick tip,technique,or tactic......when it's the internal issues that are causing the problem.


The more you post,the more I understand and see why you've been here almost two decades,and know nothing more than 13 year old boy who just entered puberty and has no clue about girls.

Let me guess......

You still have no clue as to what happened here and what went wrong....do you?
 

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Don't know what you're so upset about.....We told you from PAGE 1 that you'd ALREADY screwed up.

In fact,you messed up before you even made this thread seeking help. You just didn't understand....and STILL DON'T.

And as hard as we tried,we couldn't get you to understand. That's why people kept saying that you were "beyond help" and how they felt it was pointless to say anything to you,cause no matter what anyone said,you never seemed to learn.


People keep wanting to ignore advice aimed at fixing internal issues,and opt instead for some kind of quick tip,technique,or tactic......when it's the internal issues that are causing the problem.


The more you post,the more I understand and see why you've been here almost two decades,and know nothing more than 13 year old boy who just entered puberty and has no clue about girls.

Let me guess......

You still have no clue as to what happened here and what went wrong....do you?
Almost 2 DECADES?!?!
It really comes down to self awareness. Every guy has acted cringey towards a girl before but once you look back at it from a different point of view, getting mad at a girl for something like this is just silly as it was your fault. Although I didn't realize that 20 years of experience might not help with that self awareness...
Not to mention op had tons and tons of replies saying that she was trying to get rid of him so I don't get the surprise.
 

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It really comes down to self awareness. Every guy has acted cringey towards a girl before but once you look back at it from a different point of view, getting mad at a girl for something like this is just silly as it was your fault. Although I didn't realize that 20 years of experience might not help with that self awareness...
Not to mention op had tons and tons of replies saying that she was trying to get rid of him so I don't get the surprise.
This is why in my first post,I said that I thought he had some sort of learning disability. I meant that seriously...not as a joke.

I mean if he's still making elementary/rookie-ish mistakes after 20 years.... I mean one chick told him that she doesn't drink alcohol. So what did he do?

He brought a six pack of beer on the date. Drank beer in front of her.

You can't teach that out of someone.

You're right...every guy has acted cringy towards a girl before,but after making the same mistake over and over,most people learn,eventually.

If he hasn't learned after being here 18 years,well what.......you think this one little thread is suddenly gonna turn the light on for him?
 

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This is why in my first post,I said that I thought he had some sort of learning disability. I meant that seriously...not as a joke.

I mean if he's still making elementary/rookie-ish mistakes after 20 years.... I mean one chick told him that she doesn't drink alcohol. So what did he do?

He brought a six pack of beer on the date. Drank beer in front of her.

You can't teach that out of someone.

You're right...every guy has acted cringy towards a girl before,but after making the same mistake over and over,most people learn,eventually.

If he hasn't learned after being here 18 years,well what.......you think this one little thread is suddenly gonna turn the light on for him?
She told me she doesnt drink beer after I brought the beer!

I know the mistakes I made, I will list them tommorrow.

Everyone has their own idea has to what I did wrong...

Relax, I am already talking to three different girls.

and I learnt a lot in 18 years, I was a virign kid when I joined this forum, some of the posters on this forum weren't even alive when I joined lol
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Hi everyone,

First thanks to everyone who posted quality replies to this thread (consider it part of my Journal).

Wanted to post this debriefing report, but was busy with life.

I have re read all the posts in this thread, and will summarize the mistakes I made pointed out by respected members, and which I hope to improve moving forward (I wish there was a way I could make a table in this post):

  1. Put way to much value on her b/c she was pretty
  2. Need to improve my phone game ( have to learn to be more playful--> flirty--->charming )
  3. never allow yourself to believe some girl is the "best" youve seen
  4. dont backpeddle when you tease a girl.
  5. "just think of them as your friends annoying little sister. make fun of them. fvck with them."
  6. If a girl sends you a pic----> compliment them.
  7. Dont put too much expectations on the outcome
  8. Dont be serious and play with girls --->
  9. ______________

Please fill in anything else I may of missed



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Take a moment and find out what do you want in your life. What do you want in a woman? This post should help you : The Relationship Begins Before You Meet Her

And for your defeatist attitude while dating, you have to qualify her. Worrying about whether you are good enough for her will only lower your self-confident. If you are there to qualify her whether she's good enough for you, then you're in control of the situation.

Shifting this mindset from 'being desperate' to 'being the prize to be won' is not easy and it needs time. Keep practicing what you can learn from this website and from your own experiences and someday you'll be there.

There is a KEY to removing desperation forever. There is no simple 'trick' that will kill the desperation. It will not be in how you dress, how you talk, or where you go for dates. No, the KEY is in how you think.

The KEY to killing desperation (and attracting crowds of women) is to THINK and BELIEVE that you are The Great Catch.

Desperate guys do not do this. They see the woman as the prize rather then themselves. They see that the woman must be 'wooed' rather then them. They will, thus, supplicate and become a 'nice guy'. (And nice guys finish LAST.)

If you start treating a woman like precious gold, she will believe she is gold. And once she believes it, she will DUMP YOU because YOU have given her the sense that she is BETTER then you. Once she thinks that, she will want to REPLACE YOU with someone better, because you have given her reasons to believe that YOU ARE UNWORTHY OF HER GREATNESS.

After all, if we think we can ****** someone better, we will. This holds true for both men and women. The last thing we want is to settle for a mate when we could have gotten better. (This is why the element of challenge is so important in the Dating Game.)

The lesson: DON'T GIVE HER A REASON TO THINK SHE IS BETTER. You are the gold; she should be thrilled just to have A CHANCE with you.

The first step in becoming the Prince Charming every woman dreams of is to THINK OF YOURSELF AS A PRINCE.

When you BELIEVE you are that prince, that you are The Great Catch, all the 'desperation' signs you were emitting vanish and an aura of attraction will surround you. Combine this manner of thinking with all the Don Juan skills you know, and you will become irresistable.
 

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Take a moment and find out what do you want in your life. What do you want in a woman? This post should help you : The Relationship Begins Before You Meet Her

And for your defeatist attitude while dating, you have to qualify her. Worrying about whether you are good enough for her will only lower your self-confident. If you are there to qualify her whether she's good enough for you, then you're in control of the situation.

Shifting this mindset from 'being desperate' to 'being the prize to be won' is not easy and it needs time. Keep practicing what you can learn from this website and from your own experiences and someday you'll be there.

Lets keep this simple: I want to penetrate a cute/hot girl........the younger the better....thats the answer to your question.

However, if we get along well, then maybe we will get into a relationship.

Thanks for that suggestion.

@sph21
 

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You to be more specific than that. Have you read the link I provided you with?
 

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As soon as you stop taking women seriously you will be happy . Really . I see every woman out there as a joke , a mere amusement for me . I make fun of their flaws and compliment them only if they worth it . They dream of the Prince on a white horse meanwhile the guy who just met fcks them and doesn't even remember their name , as soon as he comes(that's me) , he would dump them like trash and these women know this very well . Ooh and most of those women have a beta provider as a bf who's sleeping dreaming of marrying them .

Most people i know wake up everyday thinking of how to find a woman but they have never fcked a woman in their life .

Listen , beautiful women are no different than any other woman out there. Even though you get stunned as soon as you see one ( i know for myself that my jaws fall once i see an attractive woman ) there is no reason to pedestalize her. It should be seen as another woman out of many you have encountered with .

You can never really be sure if you strike or not no matter how much of a master you are .

I have ended up fcking women that i have never thought that i would even speak with them and ended up with my D in my hands when i was absolutely sure that i was going to fck a certain woman .

Just enjoy the ride dude and things will happen.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Honestly, it does kind of sound like you have her a bit on a pedestal. Stating she is your favorite is reserving that special place for her above all others.... just because she is one of the prettiest girls you dated doesn't mean she isn't an ugly person who will torment the hell out of you and make your life hell if she gets the chance. Don't treat her any differently than a girl who is half her beauty... stop falling into her frame. Just be mindful of your own feelings and actions and make decisions that pertain to your frame and not hers. Keep in mind there are plenty of beautiful women out there and you have the potential with any of them.
 

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Hi everyone,

First thanks to everyone who posted quality replies to this thread (consider it part of my Journal).

Wanted to post this debriefing report, but was busy with life.

I have re read all the posts in this thread, and will summarize the mistakes I made pointed out by respected members, and which I hope to improve moving forward (I wish there was a way I could make a table in this post):

  1. Put way to much value on her b/c she was pretty
  2. Need to improve my phone game ( have to learn to be more playful--> flirty--->charming )
  3. never allow yourself to believe some girl is the "best" youve seen
  4. dont backpeddle when you tease a girl.
  5. "just think of them as your friends annoying little sister. make fun of them. fvck with them."
  6. If a girl sends you a pic----> compliment them.
  7. Dont put too much expectations on the outcome
  8. Dont be serious and play with girls --->
  9. ______________

Please fill in anything else I may of missed



@ImTheDoubleGreatest! @Igetit! @3agle3yes @MrWood @dude99 @RangerMIke @marmel75
@logicallefty @VladPatton @sph21
@Alvafe @Mauser96@Julian @JohnChops @Mazer @Desdinova @sph21@MidnightCity @deesade @guru1000 @Dash Riprock @ubercat @Murkserious @Poonani Maker @NSX-R

@sph21 @Jack Burton @NSX-R

Well....do you guys think there should be anything else to add to that list?
 

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Well....do you guys think there should be anything else to add to that list?
Really there is no pattern to seduce a woman . I'm sure you know very well what you need to seduce one .

Don't try to be someone else to fck some chicks . Being geniune is the trick mostly . Don't be stupid and don't let them use you .

Think of it as a business. You're the boss and the women are your workers . You have some requirements for them to still work for you . If they don't provide what it is needed , you give them 1 or 2 chances but then they get fired . As boss you don't have to change your ways to.please your workers .


About text game . It's natural . You can still work for it but it is different with every individual and every woman you speak to .

My best friend is a master at texting and he can fck any woman through it but he's not so good when face to face. Me on the other hand am terrible at texting (very few exceptions when i shined while texting) but a master at face to face interactions. Some times it bothered me not be able to text so good as my friend but i always made it to the targwt through other ways .

Hope i helped.
 
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I AM SO PISSED OFF......JUST HAD A HUGE FIGHT WITH THIS B.ITCH!!!

SHE IS SOOO MENTALLY F.UCKED!! ITS UNBELIEVABLE..

I THREW DEEP BARS AT HER...

RIGHT NOW I JUST FEEL LIKE DELETING THE OLD APPS OFF MY PHONE AND CALLING IT A WRAP!1

I just cant stand when some girls, create lame excuses just to stop seeing you.

sorry for the caps i am just pissed off

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This kind of rage is how EVERY relationship with a girl will end. Any 2 people are bound to step on each other's toes given enough time, unless one of them is a masochist.
 

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This kind of rage is how EVERY relationship with a girl will end. Any 2 people are bound to step on each other's toes given enough time, unless one of them is a masochist.
Everyone isn't combative. But most "hot" chicks are fighters and want to control the frame. You will have issues .
 

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I want to say something about "hot" chicks. You need to get to a point where they don't stress you make you nervous or think you need to win anything . It needs to be like anyone else. Also your image and physical appeal should be strong enough to make HER NERVOUS. To make her feel like she might miss out. A plates system and game gives you this.
 

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She is really into me...saying I have so much "potential"
After one week of meeting someone on old you cannot, with all honesty say "she is really into me". Forget what she "says". The world is full of chancers, con artists, manipulators, degenerates and general dingbats. Sometimes they come in nice wrapping.

to successfully spin plates a man must keep a buffer between himself and his women. (think, you are the cog and they are the spokes in the wheel, there is distance).

To even give a second thought that she said this and you relate it to her being really into you is slightly worrying.

She got into a car accident, like a few days ago, and I called her to see if she is ok, so we have talked on the phone a bit, and chat via text everyday. She keeps begging me to add her to snapchat, but I dont want to, so she even told me "If I really love her I would", yeah but I am not going to do whatever she says just to please her.
oh really? There's so much wrong with this paragraph. Granted I'm going by the premise that you know her a week?? and you are talking by text everyday? oh ok. and she tried to emotionally manipulate you by saying "if you really loved me....."

Let me tell you something.....this car accident was no accident. She invited it. She is a disaster.

Law 10: INFECTION: AVOID THE UNLUCKY AND THE UNHAPPY.

Walk away. Leave the hospital visits to her family. Not your circus, not your monkey.

Yes I did ask her out but she is legit busy
bye bye

She even shared with me how she was sexually assaulted by one of her "friends" --> a guy she met on Tinder tried to take advantage of her when she was drunk
oh dear. You are not only buying this crap but you are secretly white knighting. She even "shared with me"

Fvck sake man. Did that make you feel like you had a "connection"?

Jesus son, get off tinder and get your mind together.

During our long text conversation last night ( I still need to learn to be smoother over the phone), I literally told her "I dont want to be your online penpal, I value real interaction, certain topics can't be discussed over text", and she replied, "Well wait a week, and you can see me, final exam week is not a good week to meet".

But today she sorta tried to test me?

Today she sent me two pics over text, stating that if I were to download snapchat, these would be the snaps I would be able to see, and that "You will see how obsessed I am with myself" ---

ME: Something we have in common
HER: You're also obsessed with me, or obsessed with yourself?
ME: You at work?
ME: Myself, b/c Im such A stud
ME: Lots of makeup
HER:You dont like my makeup? thats pretty rude! I thought I looked nice

ME: I dont dislike it, I just noticed it b/c I know waitresses wear lots of makeup, so I figured you are on your way to work.
HER: If you dont like this look, then what type of look do you prefer?

then she sends me another pic:



She then goes onto say "you werent very nice about my makeup, and me being goofy", I then retort "I didn't mean it like that ....I like to tease (which is true I tease everyone)...dont take it personal...Let me hug you little baby <hug emoticon> (I nearly wanted to insert a kiss emoticon....but I dont want to show too much affection and interest level, yes Im learning;-)

My Plan

  1. Talk to her minimally ---> until we actually meet face to face -->> or just to setup the date (which I want to be at my place)
  2. Dont show too much interest or affection.
  3. Tease and entertain.


(If someone could show me how to edit screenshots i WOULD appreciate that ;-)

So my question to the forum, is how would you of handled this conversation, and how will you try to seduce this sexy young girl from this point onwards?

I just dont want to fukk this up, yes I know its bad to put unneccessary pressure on myself, but this girl is fit (not a oneitis, I still talk to other girls on OLD ).


P.S. If you haven't gotten laid in the past three months, please dont bother replying to this thread.

Thank you for your time, and useful replies.
wow just wow just wow

are you for real? are you taking the piss?

blown away by your thread. Seriously.

dumbfounded
 

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I want to say something about "hot" chicks. You need to get to a point where they don't stress you make you nervous or think you need to win anything . It needs to be like anyone else. Also your image and physical appeal should be strong enough to make HER NERVOUS. To make her feel like she might miss out. A plates system and game gives you this.
Absolutely.

I think you should try to elaborate.

op needs it spelled out.
 

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Hi there,

So out of all the girls I have dated, this one is by far the prettiest/hottest, we matched on Tinder like a week ago, and have been talking via text for a week now.

Despite her being young, and immature, I totally want to penetrate, the poomps is soo ripe. She is really into me...saying I have so much "potential". Definitely not marrying material though lol.

She got into a car accident, like a few days ago, and I called her to see if she is ok, so we have talked on the phone a bit, and chat via text everyday. She keeps begging me to add her to snapchat, but I dont want to, so she even told me "If I really love her I would", yeah but I am not going to do whatever she says just to please her.

Yes I did ask her out but she is legit busy ( final exams, and work everyday, overcommitted), but she did send me a cute pic yesterday, asking me if I want to hang out next week. I asked her again to hang out with me on the weekend ( I need to stop asking girls out repeatedly ). I cant wait for next week to meet up.

She even shared with me how she was sexually assaulted by one of her "friends" --> a guy she met on Tinder tried to take advantage of her when she was drunk, so 1) how should I factor this in when trying to seduce her? I know it will make it harder to. I guess I cant bring alcohol on the date...


During our long text conversation last night ( I still need to learn to be smoother over the phone), I literally told her "I dont want to be your online penpal, I value real interaction, certain topics can't be discussed over text", and she replied, "Well wait a week, and you can see me, final exam week is not a good week to meet".

But today she sorta tried to test me?

Today she sent me two pics over text, stating that if I were to download snapchat, these would be the snaps I would be able to see, and that "You will see how obsessed I am with myself" ---

ME: Something we have in common
HER: You're also obsessed with me, or obsessed with yourself?
ME: You at work?
ME: Myself, b/c Im such A stud
ME: Lots of makeup
HER:You dont like my makeup? thats pretty rude! I thought I looked nice

ME: I dont dislike it, I just noticed it b/c I know waitresses wear lots of makeup, so I figured you are on your way to work.
HER: If you dont like this look, then what type of look do you prefer?

then she sends me another pic:

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She then goes onto say "you werent very nice about my makeup, and me being goofy", I then retort "I didn't mean it like that ....I like to tease (which is true I tease everyone)...dont take it personal...Let me hug you little baby <hug emoticon> (I nearly wanted to insert a kiss emoticon....but I dont want to show too much affection and interest level, yes Im learning;-)

My Plan

  1. Talk to her minimally ---> until we actually meet face to face -->> or just to setup the date (which I want to be at my place)
  2. Dont show too much interest or affection.
  3. Tease and entertain.


(If someone could show me how to edit screenshots i WOULD appreciate that ;-)

So my question to the forum, is how would you of handled this conversation, and how will you try to seduce this sexy young girl from this point onwards?

I just dont want to fukk this up, yes I know its bad to put unneccessary pressure on myself, but this girl is fit (not a oneitis, I still talk to other girls on OLD ).


P.S. If you haven't gotten laid in the past three months, please dont bother replying to this thread.

Thank you for your time, and useful replies.





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