Most prettiest girl I've "dated"--->> Please help I dont want to screw this up

[AJ84]

Are you able to explain to us, how they are red flags?

You barely know this girl yet and she's saying "if you love me, you would do xyz". That is a legimate sh*t test right there. She's dangling herself in front of you to get you do do stuff. Never a good start to a healthy dating experience.

Also, women don't typically disclose sexual abuse to men they don't know that well.

Don't dump her but don't drop anyone else you are dating and be mindful, if you find yourself rationalizing or excusing questionable actions like the above examples then you know you have love/lust blinders on.

 

[Ryan]

your game sucks dude.

it all makes sense now. youre still a nice guy

no offense taken. be specific......explain how it sucks??

 

[RangerMIke]

How could I leverage SC?

I dont use it, and I think its a waste of time...I dont care about other ppls snaps, and I don't waste my precious time posting useless snaps (Im in my mid 30s).

Tell her to put on something comfortable and come over and help you insert.... er uh... install it. Then you will add her... but then ask her what she will do to get yo to actually use it.

She was so upset I didnt dl it, but I think its good a lesson for her to realize that she cant make me do whatever she wants.

I get that, but it's okay to do things chicks ask you to do as long as you get her to do something for you in return... in fact it's a great way to have some fun and tease her... it tests her attitude, if she'll joke around and laugh about your demands, she has a good attitude and will likely be fun.

Are you really a US Army Ranger? wow! thats cool I love vietnam war movies, and watching documentaries on the US Navy SEALS!! so much respect for them and the SAS......sorry to change the topic.

The best thing about serving with Rangers is you get to spend time with the greatest soldiers in the world. I was in the 7th ID from 1988-90 at a platoon leader was with them for the invasion of Panama, and transferred to the 1st Ranger Bat from 1990-92 and was a rifle PL and later Support PL, was with them during the Gulf War ... after I was promoted to CPT, I transferred to Regimental HQ in Air Operations, and was sent to Mogadishu and worked on MG Garrison's staff. After I got the SF bug and went to the Q-Course, finished and my first assignment was in Yugoslavia as a UNMO, was wounded in a car bomb and re-branched as a FAO, and spent the rest of my time on active duty traveling and living in what was Warsaw Pact countries helping them develop their training programs to get ready for NATO standards. Got out in 1999, and when in the reserves... was called back twice... once in 2004 and sent to Afghanistan for 8 months. Then again, sent to Northern Iraq 2015 when ISIS invaded from Syria, to organize logistics to support the KRA fighting the Desh... That was 6 month. And retired after 27 years of combined active and reserve service, but the best time I had was the 4 years in the Rangers.

 

[marmel75]

Tell her to put on something comfortable and come over and help you insert.... er uh... install it. Then you will add her... but then ask her what she will do to get yo to actually use it.



I get that, but it's okay to do things chicks ask you to do as long as you get her to do something for you in return... in fact it's a great way to have some fun and tease her... it tests her attitude, if she'll joke around and laugh about your demands, she has a good attitude and will likely be fun.

The best thing about serving with Rangers is you get to spend time with the greatest soldiers in the world. I was in the 7th ID from 1988-90 at a platoon leader was with them for the invasion of Panama, and transferred to the 1st Ranger Bat from 1990-92 and was a rifle PL and later Support PL, was with them during the Gulf War ... after I was promoted to CPT, I transferred to Regimental HQ in Air Operations, and was sent to Mogadishu and worked on MG Garrison's staff. After I got the SF bug and went to the Q-Course, finished and my first assignment was in Yugoslavia as a UNMO, was wounded in a car bomb and re-branched as a FAO, and spent the rest of my time on active duty traveling and living in what was Warsaw Pact countries helping them develop their training programs to get ready for NATO standards. Got out in 1999, and when in the reserves... was called back twice... once in 2004 and sent to Afghanistan for 8 months. Then again, sent to Northern Iraq 2015 when ISIS invaded from Syria, to organize logistics to support the KRA fighting the Desh... That was 6 month. And retired after 27 years of combined active and reserve service, but the best time I had was the 4 years in the Rangers.

Thanks for your service! I know you probably hear it enough but most people really do appreciate what you have done to help serve your country.

 

[marmel75]

Then go out with her. Escalate. If she won't let you escalate, move on.

OPs posts are really tough to read. Especially when he continuously posts and gets responses but seems to literally learn nothing from any of them because he continues to do the same stuff over and over again.

Which brings up a point from a long time ago. If you arent going to follow the consensus advice given which in OPs case is basic standard operating procedure and nothing special, why the hell do you keep posting asking for advice??

 

[Igetit!]

OPs posts are really tough to read. Especially when he continuously posts and gets responses but seems to literally learn nothing from any of them because he continues to do the same stuff over and over again.

Yep.

What I'm about to say.....I DON'T MEAN as a joke,or as an insult....it's honestly the kind of vibe I get from reading his posts.....

He kinda comes off as if he has some sort of learning disability.

He asks for advice,people give it to him.....DIRECTLY EXPLAINING what the problem was and/or what he did wrong,then after they clearly explain it,he goes right back to asking what he should have done differently,or what the person giving the advice would have done.

He makes thread.....after thread....after thread....making the SAME MISTAKES with different girls....and repeatedly asking what he should have done differently,when the solution and answer has be clearly laid out before him.

That's why I personally never responded to his threads or try to advise him. He doesn't seem like he'd be able to understand.

 

[Bible_Belt]

My military service consists of flunking out of college ROTC, but even that was enough training to allow me to understand that @RangerMIke is the real deal.

And yes, the OP gives too many fvcks. Has he even seen this girl in person? Maybe she is a hairy old man who is catfishing him. It sounds like she is recruiting snapchat followers. I have known girls who made money and got free stuff because of their thousands of twitter followers. Snapchat is probably similar. Assuming she is an actual woman, maybe she just wants more followers.

 

[wifehunter]

and?

And, you need to get a life. If the focus of your life is women, you will act like one.

 

[Ryan]

the moment you think a girl is all that, or afraid of not getting her, youve already lost her and the game. never allow yourself to believe some girl is the "best" youve seen or had

im also inclined to believe what BB says. these girls live off social media

take this opportunity to practice some negs and text game.

dont backpeddle when you tease a girl. its hard not to but you cant. dont fall into her game. dont play fetch. otherwise youre just more of the same. these girls are used to guys bending over backwards for them

these shlt tests are hidden opportunities to build attraction through any normal text exchange with women you meet

example:

HER:You dont like my makeup? thats pretty rude! I thought I looked nice
ME: I dont dislike it, I just noticed it b/c I know waitresses wear lots of makeup, so I figured you are on your way to work. = fail

HER:You dont like my makeup? thats pretty rude! I thought I looked nice
ME: I thought i was looking at a rodeo clown OR is that a wig?

if she wants to act even more shocked and offended after each neg hit, just use even more audacity. take none of her shlt tests serious. c0cky and funny to deflect.

HER:You dont like my makeup? thats pretty rude! I thought I looked nice
ME: I thought i was looking at a rodeo clown OR is that a wig?
HER: youre an @sshole!
ME: hey, thats Mr.@sshole to you

agree and aimplify

this girl kept backing you into a corner and you kept falling for it. not even with much effort on her part really.

just think of them as your friends annoying little sister. make fun of them. fvck with them. just have fun until you actually hang out with them by a chance encounter or a casual meet up

Your good at C&F........this was actually good advice....

 

[Ryan]

He asks for advice,people give it to him.....DIRECTLY EXPLAINING what the problem was and/or what he did wrong,then after they clearly explain it,he goes right back to asking what he should have done differently,or what the person giving the advice would have rne.

Sorry, but I do not recall receiving direct explanation in previous threads, are you able to actually provide an example, I find most posters don't even address the issues I most (hence the red font).

I most posts to be very vague, and not specific at all...

He makes thread.....after thread....after thread....making the SAME MISTAKES with different girls....and repeatedly asking what he should have done differently,when the solution and answer has be clearly laid out before him.

"has be clearly laid out"?

Again, you claim I am making the same mistakes, are you able to identify any mistake I made in this thread which I previously made in another thread?

I'm trying hard to "learn" here.....no I do not have a LD lol .

Thank You

 

[sosousage]

Young women nowadays have BPD. Next

 

[Ryan]

Tell her to put on something comfortable and come over and help you insert.... er uh... install it. Then you will add her... but then ask her what she will do to get yo to actually use it.



I get that, but it's okay to do things chicks ask you to do as long as you get her to do something for you in return... in fact it's a great way to have some fun and tease her... it tests her attitude, if she'll joke around and laugh about your demands, she has a good attitude and will likely be fun.

The best thing about serving with Rangers is you get to spend time with the greatest soldiers in the world. I was in the 7th ID from 1988-90 at a platoon leader was with them for the invasion of Panama, and transferred to the 1st Ranger Bat from 1990-92 and was a rifle PL and later Support PL, was with them during the Gulf War ... after I was promoted to CPT, I transferred to Regimental HQ in Air Operations, and was sent to Mogadishu and worked on MG Garrison's staff. After I got the SF bug and went to the Q-Course, finished and my first assignment was in Yugoslavia as a UNMO, was wounded in a car bomb and re-branched as a FAO, and spent the rest of my time on active duty traveling and living in what was Warsaw Pact countries helping them develop their training programs to get ready for NATO standards. Got out in 1999, and when in the reserves... was called back twice... once in 2004 and sent to Afghanistan for 8 months. Then again, sent to Northern Iraq 2015 when ISIS invaded from Syria, to organize logistics to support the KRA fighting the Desh... That was 6 month. And retired after 27 years of combined active and reserve service, but the best time I had was the 4 years in the Rangers.

Although I am not American, I respect the service you made to your country. I have always fantasized about joining the military, but the marching drills at 6am, during basic training? Dont know if I can do that.

I also liked the advice of asking her to come over, to show me how to install SC (which I think is a stupid app btw) , I will actually follow that advice!

I salute you captain Mike!

 

[Murk]

Thanks.

Not sure how much of the original post you actually read, but I did already call her on the phone when she crashed her car, she even commented 'oh stop you're so smooth'


how am I coming on too strong and too robotic? cite examples from the conversation please.

Also I would appreciate if you could tell me how you would of played it differently?

I did read your OP - did you?

"During our long text conversation last night ( I still need to learn to be smoother over the phone)" - Sorry but I took this sentence to mean you wish to be smoother over the phone, hence me telling you to call her and get practice in. By mid 30s you should be able to smash phone calls out of the park.

Strong and robotic: Anything with a direct "come over to my place" without some set up or cool down is going to look blunt and rigid. You are throwing down blocks like Tetris you need to be pouring in water.

You don't seem to make her laugh or be lighthearted, too serious, mechanical, direct.

DL the SC bro. She can send you pics/vids, who cares if you don't want to see other stories stories. Like someone else said - do things because you want to, not to prove some point or create some fake frame. You are pushing back too much and not going with the flow.

Reminds me of bigdave, richard and many others here: personality issues, which will be the biggest obstacle in getting girls.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

Sorry, but I do not recall receiving direct explanation in previous threads, are you able to actually provide an example, I find most posters don't even address the issues I most (hence the red font).

I most posts to be very vague, and not specific at all...



"has be clearly laid out"?

Again, you claim I am making the same mistakes, are you able to identify any mistake I made in this thread which I previously made in another thread?

I'm trying hard to "learn" here.....no I do not have a LD lol .

Thank You

They like to diagnose everyone who doesn't blindly listen to their mundane advice as having autism.

Just like they like to diagnose girls with BPD.

 

[Igetit!]

Sorry, but I do not recall receiving direct explanation in previous threads, are you able to actually provide an example, I find most posters don't even address the issues I most (hence the red font).

I most posts to be very vague, and not specific at all...

You've been told OVER AND OVER here in this thread that you need to relax...you need to calm down.

Then you say,"Well what would you have done differently?" When I see that,I'm like,"Dude....can you read? Did you just see what they said to you?"

In the title of this thread,you say "I don't want to screw this up". That means you're worried. And if you're worried,you'll be nervous and anxious around the girl. And if you're nervous and anxious,you won't be confident. You'll look and appear insecure,which will turn the girl OFF.

But you know what,despite all that,you do have one thing going for you.....and I have to give you credit for this.....

You TRY.

You might fall,but you try.
You may fail,but you try.
You may f-it up with rookie-ish mistakes....but you keep trying. So I applaud you for that. YOU DO put forth an effort,so that and that ALONE puts you ahead of a lot of guys.

You don't lack effort,but YOU DO lack tact. You're like a bull in a china shop...you do and say things that may seems harmless or innocent,but they wreck your chances with the girl. Like your last thread......

The chick was 19 years old. You mentioned something about bringing beer on the date,she told you she doesn't drink and that her father was an alcoholic.

So what did you do?....

You brought a SIX PACK on the date. When I read that,I was like,"What the f*ck???" She TOLD YOU she doesn't drink. So naturally,you bring alcohol on the date. You're supposed to be trying to connect with the girl. You brought something on the date that SHE TOLD YOU she personally tries to stay away from.

Huh???

You should have already known better than that.

Again, you claim I am making the same mistakes, are you able to identify any mistake I made in this thread which I previously made in another thread?

I'm trying hard to "learn" here.....no I do not have a LD lol .

Thank You

I have a better question.....

You've seen all the advice and council you've been given here...in THIS thread,so you tell me.....

If you have this exchange to do all over again,what WOULD YOU have done differently?

YOU......what would YOU DO differently???

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

"You need to appreciate me more"

Err yeah, this is like trying to stick your kn*b into a hornet's nest. Believe me, dating someone who is a nutcase or messed up in some way is not worth it at all, cute or not.

Also the prettiness of a girl really shouldn't be knocking you for six like this. I'm not immune either, no man is - I've seen girls so pretty that I've just stared stupidly like a sedated cow. But when you interact with them, you should try as hard as possible to treat them with the exact same cool attitude you give girls you're not even interested in. After all, she's pretty much exactly the same human being but with slightly more attractive features (to you) than average.

If you're falling over yourself losing your s**t just because a girl is "so hot" and you start worrying about screwing up that is just you dumping undue value on her because of her looks before she's even proven herself.

Whether she's hot or not, her job is to prove that she's worthy of your interest. Thus your job is to remain friendly but aloof. This does not mean frantic texting, tons of chat and capitulating to all her silly demands (like Snapchat and "appreciating" her constantly).

 

[Ryan]

You've been told OVER AND OVER here in this thread that you need to relax...you need to calm down.

Then you say,"Well what would you have done differently?" When I see that,I'm like,"Dude....can you read? Did you just see what they said to you?"

In the title of this thread,you say "I don't want to screw this up". That means you're worried. And if you're worried,you'll be nervous and anxious around the girl. And if you're nervous and anxious,you won't be confident. You'll look and appear insecure,which will turn the girl OFF.

But you know what,despite all that,you do have one thing going for you.....and I have to give you credit for this.....

You TRY.

You might fall,but you try.
You may fail,but you try.
You may f-it up with rookie-ish mistakes....but you keep trying. So I applaud you for that. YOU DO put forth an effort,so that and that ALONE puts you ahead of a lot of guys.

You don't lack effort,but YOU DO lack tact. You're like a bull in a china shop...you do and say things that may seems harmless or innocent,but they wreck your chances with the girl. Like your last thread......

The chick was 19 years old. You mentioned something about bringing beer on the date,she told you she doesn't drink and that her father was an alcoholic.

So what did you do?....

You brought a SIX PACK on the date. When I read that,I was like,"What the f*ck???" She TOLD YOU she doesn't drink. So naturally,you bring alcohol on the date. You're supposed to be trying to connect with the girl. You brought something on the date that SHE TOLD YOU she personally tries to stay away from.

Huh???

You should have already known better than that.





I have a better question.....

You've seen all the advice and council you've been given here...in THIS thread,so you tell me.....

If you have this exchange to do all over again,what WOULD YOU have done differently?

YOU......what would YOU DO differently???

What I would of done differently with respect to the girl in this thread??

 

[Ryan]

You've been told OVER AND OVER here in this thread that you need to relax...you need to calm down.

Then you say,"Well what would you have done differently?" When I see that,I'm like,"Dude....can you read? Did you just see what they said to you?"

In the title of this thread,you say "I don't want to screw this up". That means you're worried. And if you're worried,you'll be nervous and anxious around the girl. And if you're nervous and anxious,you won't be confident. You'll look and appear insecure,which will turn the girl OFF.

But you know what,despite all that,you do have one thing going for you.....and I have to give you credit for this.....

You TRY.

You might fall,but you try.
You may fail,but you try.
You may f-it up with rookie-ish mistakes....but you keep trying. So I applaud you for that. YOU DO put forth an effort,so that and that ALONE puts you ahead of a lot of guys.

You don't lack effort,but YOU DO lack tact. You're like a bull in a china shop...you do and say things that may seems harmless or innocent,but they wreck your chances with the girl. Like your last thread......

The chick was 19 years old. You mentioned something about bringing beer on the date,she told you she doesn't drink and that her father was an alcoholic.

So what did you do?....

You brought a SIX PACK on the date. When I read that,I was like,"What the f*ck???" She TOLD YOU she doesn't drink. So naturally,you bring alcohol on the date. You're supposed to be trying to connect with the girl. You brought something on the date that SHE TOLD YOU she personally tries to stay away from.

Huh???

You should have already known better than that.





I have a better question.....

You've seen all the advice and council you've been given here...in THIS thread,so you tell me.....

If you have this exchange to do all over again,what WOULD YOU have done differently?

YOU......what would YOU DO differently???

Well I havent done anything yet?? I havent even met her, thats why I made this thread so I know what not to do

I watched the video on youtube where the black guy (hes a member here, sorry forgot his name), says " she already wants to f you, all you can do now is talk your way out of it" ---->>> I think thats the situation

But to answer your question...

I would keep minimal communication (black guys advice), and just be more teasing fun and ask to hang out next week (she already asked me to hang out next week)

Did I miss anything?

 

[Igetit!]

Well I havent done anything yet?? I havent even met her, thats why I made this thread so I know what not to do

Ok...that's cool. But you have to realize something......
.
You've ALREADY been making mistakes. That's what other members have been telling you.

You would have been better off asking for advice before even contacting her. Like when she showed you a picture of herself,and you said she had on too much make-up.

The ONLY WORDS OUT OF YOUR MOUTH about the pics she showed you should have been how nice she looked,maybe complimented her on her hairstyle,outfit,earrings,or on her smile. You OFFENDED HER when you said she wore too much make-up.

So from now on,whenever a girl shares a pic of herself with you....especially one you're still trying to make a first date happen with,COMPLIMENT HER.

I watched the video on youtube where the black guy (hes a member here, sorry forgot his name), says " she already wants to f you, all you can do now is talk your way out of it" ---->>> I think thats the situation

That's true...or to be more accurate.....

When you first meet a girl,you have a clean slate. A lot of chicks are actually interested in a guy when he shows interest in her,but he usually kills that interest by opening his mouth and saying something stupid or thoughtless.

Like telling a girl she has on too much make-up for example....

But to answer your question...

I would keep minimal communication (black guys advice), and just be more teasing fun and ask to hang out next week (she already asked me to hang out next week)

Did I miss anything?

That's pretty good advice. But understand.....

"Minimal" contact doesn't mean NO contact at all. I wouldn't let too much time pass by without trying to strike up a little light-hearted,fun conversation with her. You don't want to let a whole week go by with no contact at all,her interest may start to wane and die down a bit.

Course....if you don't know how to flirt well,you may run things further off into the ditch.

If you do decide to contact her,have a plan in mind in case she asks you what you two are going to do on the date. DON'T SAY,"I don't know"...and DON'T ASK HER what she wants to do....already have an idea in mind. If she suggests something else,you can go along with her,but have your own suggestion ready first.

 

[Ryan]

Ok...that's cool. But you have to realize something......
.
You've ALREADY been making mistakes. That's what other members have been telling you.

You would have been better off asking for advice before even contacting her. Like when she showed you a picture of herself,and you said she had on too much make-up.

The ONLY WORDS OUT OF YOUR MOUTH about the pics she showed you should have been how nice she looked,maybe complimented her on her hairstyle,outfit,earrings,or on her smile. You OFFENDED HER when you said she wore too much make-up.

So from now on,whenever a girl shares a pic of herself with you....especially one you're still trying to make a first date happen with,COMPLIMENT HER.




That's true...or to be more accurate.....

When you first meet a girl,you have a clean slate. A lot of chicks are actually interested in a guy when he shows interest in her,but he usually kills that interest by opening his mouth and saying something stupid or thoughtless.

Like telling a girl she has on too much make-up for example....



That's pretty good advice. But understand.....

"Minimal" contact doesn't mean NO contact at all. I wouldn't let too much time pass by without trying to strike up a little light-hearted,fun conversation with her. You don't want to let a whole week go by with no contact at all,her interest may start to wane and die down a bit.

Course....if you don't know how to flirt well,you may run things further off into the ditch.

If you do decide to contact her,have a plan in mind in case she asks you what you two are going to do on the date. DON'T SAY,"I don't know"...and DON'T ASK HER what she wants to do....already have an idea in mind. If she suggests something else,you can go along with her,but have your own suggestion ready first.

Would coming over for some pizza at my place be too scary of a first "date" with her? (I want something in a semi private area so we can escalate)

So always compliment on pictures, but never a compliment thats related to her body (eyes?)

Actually, today I sent out a mass text asking what time the campus library closes, because I had some work I had to complete for a big client, then she replies the library closes at 9pm, and there is lots of space here (she coincidentally is there), if I had free time I would of gone to the library...but I was busy with work committments, and told her I would go to the city library instead, then she replies "Lame, im right here now" (indicating that she is eager to see me), so then I reply...I promise to see you next week ...

over text I can flirt where there is a delay........but face to face I'm too nervous...and malfunction when trying to text..