Most prettiest girl I've "dated"--->> Please help I dont want to screw this up

[sph21]

over text I can flirt where there is a delay........but face to face I'm too nervous.

Ryan, the only reason why you're too nervous to talk to her face to face is that you're still putting too much expectations over the outcome of your actions. You're too worried about making a mistake in front of her and screw over this opportunity.

There are at least 2 possible causes why you're behaving like this:

1. You're still indecisive about what you want in your life
2. You haven't met and talked to enough people to understand that nobody is perfect and expecting perfection is the only thing that prevents you from enjoying life

Perfect is boring!
The only thing that you mustn't do is to bore her. Thus, having a fun mindset is a good strategy here.

I was so shy until my mid 20s. When I was in high school, I was so nervous to even talk to an ugly girl. Until one day, I watched a movie and as if the guy talked to me like this, "the only way to eliminate fear is to face it". It changed my life. I decided to identify my fears and face them.

Talking to girls was my biggest fear. So, I decided to solve it. I talked to as many people as I could. Once I got enough confidence, talking to the most beautiful girl I met is no longer a problem for me. I'm no longer overthinking of what would she'd be thinking of me.

It doesn't matter what others think about you. What matter is what you think about yourself.

That what you think about yourself, is exactly what you are

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

Well I havent done anything yet?? I havent even met her, thats why I made this thread so I know what not to do

This thread is what not to do, dude.

First of all you haven't even met her and yet she's already "teh hottest gurl ever OMG I'm losing my mind please for the love of God don't let me lose her!11"

Let's take a reality check. She's a good looking chick who's texted you a bit, that's all. Calm it down 10 notches.

Then from your first post the texts you're sending sound kind of needy and like you're super worried she's going to ditch you at any moment. Even the thread title "please help, I don't want to screw this up" is the wrong attitude.

You should be chatting casually when is convenient for YOU, not her, and thinking "Hot chick, great, whatever." Not "OH GOD THIS IS THE CHANCE OF A LIFETIME!"

As soon as you start putting a chick up on a pedestal because of her looks and giving her all this power over you, you've already lost. Even if you slept with her, you're demoted from man into her pet f*ck toy she can chuck when she likes.

 

[Ryan]

So its the weekend...she already asked me if i wanted to hang out next week, should I ask her out this weekend?

2) IF so , would asking her to come over be too much? or should it be like in a bar etc?

I aM asking these questions so I dont mess up.

I see she called me at like 11pm last night, but I was sleeping.


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[soulforge]

This one has BDP written ALL OVER it..

According to my calculations, this will now be 16,652 beyond a shadow of a doubt genuine cases of BDP woman featured on Sosuave!

 

[Ryan]

This one has BDP written ALL OVER it..

According to my calculations, this will now be 16,652 beyond a shadow of a doubt genuine cases of BDP woman featured on Sosuave!

How? explain yourself...

 

[Ryan]

Ok If I smash this girl, I will donate $20.00 (Twenty dollars and zero cents) to this Sosuave forum.

Currency in United States Dollars.


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[NSX-R]

Op. I think you made some mistakes when she told you that you are rude . You took her too seriously and gave her that answer . You lost your frame there. The problem is that she is too full of herself and because of her beauty she believes she can have any man she wants and maybe it's true .

As somebody else here said , you are reacting too mechanically and do not let things flow . The thought of her being the hottest chick you ever had a chance to do something with , have stalled your mind. You are taking her too seriously. I'm sure she's another chick who thinks her beauty is everything . Usually these women are stupid and easy .

I believe half of the game is lost but i wouldn't stop trying .

Op call her and invite her home . Tonight. Hold your frame and do not back up . If she suggest some other day then tell her that you can't. Be serious about your intention but don't take seriously whatever she's going to tell you . It has to be today . If she try to sell you any excuse on that she don't know you well, don't take her seriously. Think of this like an interaction between you and your brother/sister/cousin/nephew whatever and you want them to do something for you and you use any excuse on why this shouldn't happen .

The objective here is her to visit your home . Don't give reasons for why she has to do it . She has to do it because you said so . Respond only to the things she's going to say to avoid this . Be gentle and funny but don't lose your frame . Offcourse you have to be persistent, don't give up immediately after she denies because she is going to say no the first couple of of times. That's why you have to give her the right reasons to counter the excuses she might use to not come to your place . All this should happen in one phone call and not two .

If she rejects , tell her you will be waiting for her call if she change her mind . 80% she willl change her mind depending on your game .
If she do not respond at all , lower your interest and let it flow from there without giving her much attention .

Any questions? Anything that needs more explanation?

 

[Ryan]

Op. I think you made some mistakes when she told you that you are rude . You took her too seriously and gave her that answer . You lost your frame there. The problem is that she is too full of herself and because of her beauty she believes she can have any man she wants and maybe it's true .

As somebody else here said , you are reacting too mechanically and do not let things flow . The thought of her being the hottest chick you ever had a chance to do something with , have stalled your mind. You are taking her too seriously. I'm sure she's another chick who thinks her beauty is everything . Usually these women are stupid and easy .

I believe half of the game is lost but i wouldn't stop trying .

Op call her and invite her home . Tonight. Hold your frame and do not back up . If she suggest some other day then tell her that you can't. Be serious about your intention but don't take seriously whatever she's going to tell you . It has to be today . If she try to sell you any excuse on that she don't know you well, don't take her seriously. Think of this like an interaction between you and your brother/sister/cousin/nephew whatever and you want them to do something for you and you use any excuse on why this shouldn't happen .

The objective here is her to visit your home . Don't give reasons for why she has to do it . She has to do it because you said so . Respond only to the things she's going to say to avoid this . Be gentle and funny but don't lose your frame . Offcourse you have to be persistent, don't give up immediately after she denies because she is going to say no the first couple of of times. That's why you have to give her the right reasons to counter the excuses she might use to not come to your place . All this should happen in one phone call and not two .

If she rejects , tell her you will be waiting for her call if she change her mind . 80% she willl change her mind depending on your game .
If she do not respond at all , lower your interest and let it flow from there without giving her much attention .

Any questions? Anything that needs more explanation?

Thanks for a quality reply.


How did I take her too seriously?

ii) What you mean the right reasons to counter the excuses?

iii) "Be gentle and funny" ---> can you give me an example?

• Wont it make me look too desperate? I called her twice yesterday and she didnt respond, and text ratio is heavily in her favour...I feel like its better to pause and reinitiate contact in a few days?

soo I will be like what you doing...........she be like im doing this at this time and that at that time.........and then I will be like ok come by for like only 30min for some tea....or try the smoothie i made its amazing.....im not as persuasive as I used to be.

Thing is I called her yesterday she never picked up, then I called from the internet (test) and she picked up immediately...


I have another girl im talking to, but shes not half as cute.

I dont mind NEXTING, but the thing is you cant just "next" , you should know what it was that turned the girl off.

I will call as soon as you reply.

@NSX-R

 

[NSX-R]

Thanks for a quality reply.


How did I take her too seriously?

ii) What you mean the right reasons to counter the excuses?

iii) "Be gentle and funny" ---> can you give me an example?


soo I will be like what you doing...........she be like im doing this at this time and that at that time.........and then I will be like ok come by for like only 30min for some tea....or try the smoothie i made its amazing.....im not as persuasive as I used to be.

Thing is I called her yesterday she never picked up, then I called from the internet (test) and she picked up immediately...


I have another girl im talking to, but shes not half as cute.

I dont mind NEXTING, but the thing is you cant just "next" , you should know what it was that turned the girl off.

I will call as soon as you reply.

@NSX-R

i) When I'm saying you're too serious , i mean you are not playing enough with her . Play with her , use her to amuse you .
You made yourself vulnerable when you said that you are teasing her . Let her believe whatever she wants to believe . Women never stop to talk . Only your words matter . Women filter everything we say and most of them never forget our words .

ii) Once you tell her to come in your place , she's going to say she don't know you enough to visit you . Tell her that you know each other and that you trust her enough to visit you . I believe showing some vulnerability in your part might make her more confortable but don't do it for too long. Be creative .

iii) Gentle i mean don't be a d!ck but also don't be a chump . Be smart , if you are gentle and know what you are doing , she will be fully into you . Funny , i mean when you talk , play with everything she says. Being sarcastic is also a key .

So you call her ....not a lot of chit chat ....she propably going to say that she's tired because of her exams and tell why don't you come in my place to chill. Be absolute but in balanced manner. Not too ****y and aggresive but not too needy and passive with her reactions.

Here is a sample :
You: hey how you doing?
Her: good and you ?
You: fine .where are you ?
Her : im at home studying/at my friend Nina etc
You : why don't you come later at my place , chill a bit , drink something
Her: oh i can't ,my fish has to eat
You: ok feed it and then come
Her: i dont know you well to come and visit you .
You : i don't know you either and actually is a risk for me to invite you at my place
Her : why are you saying that?
You: cause you seemed angry when i told you about the make up and I'm afraid that you might attack me lol
Her: i won't do that
You : you have to prove it
Her : i can't, i just met you.
You : and ? What about it ?
Her : i don't know
You : come here , relax ,see a movie or have something to drink , i don't bite
Her : i can't do this
Her : let's meet next week.
You : my program is full , i can't make it .
You : listen , my address is this.......I'll be home for the whole night . If you change your mind , call me back . Bye
And close it .
Go NC from then . If she's interest , she's going to call you back .

Use something like this , don't use the same words but you have an idea of how it should really go . Show her that she's just an option out of many for you but make her feel that you feel something special for her bit don't be afraid to neg her .

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Stop tagging me in all of your posts please. I don’t have time to write explicitly detailed responses to the simplest nuances in problems.

 

[highSpeed]

Hi there,

So out of all the girls I have dated, this one is by far the prettiest/hottest, we matched on Tinder like a week ago, and have been talking via text for a week now.

Despite her being young, and immature, I totally want to penetrate, the poomps is soo ripe. She is really into me...saying I have so much "potential". Definitely not marrying material though lol.

She got into a car accident, like a few days ago, and I called her to see if she is ok, so we have talked on the phone a bit, and chat via text everyday. She keeps begging me to add her to snapchat, but I dont want to, so she even told me "If I really love her I would", yeah but I am not going to do whatever she says just to please her.

Yes I did ask her out but she is legit busy ( final exams, and work everyday, overcommitted), but she did send me a cute pic yesterday, asking me if I want to hang out next week. I asked her again to hang out with me on the weekend ( I need to stop asking girls out repeatedly ). I cant wait for next week to meet up.

She even shared with me how she was sexually assaulted by one of her "friends" --> a guy she met on Tinder tried to take advantage of her when she was drunk, so 1) how should I factor this in when trying to seduce her? I know it will make it harder to. I guess I cant bring alcohol on the date...


During our long text conversation last night ( I still need to learn to be smoother over the phone), I literally told her "I dont want to be your online penpal, I value real interaction, certain topics can't be discussed over text", and she replied, "Well wait a week, and you can see me, final exam week is not a good week to meet".

But today she sorta tried to test me?

Today she sent me two pics over text, stating that if I were to download snapchat, these would be the snaps I would be able to see, and that "You will see how obsessed I am with myself" ---

ME: Something we have in common
HER: You're also obsessed with me, or obsessed with yourself?
ME: You at work?
ME: Myself, b/c Im such A stud
ME: Lots of makeup
HER:You dont like my makeup? thats pretty rude! I thought I looked nice
ME: I dont dislike it, I just noticed it b/c I know waitresses wear lots of makeup, so I figured you are on your way to work.
HER: If you dont like this look, then what type of look do you prefer?

then she sends me another pic:

View attachment 1386

She then goes onto say "you werent very nice about my makeup, and me being goofy", I then retort "I didn't mean it like that ....I like to tease (which is true I tease everyone)...dont take it personal...Let me hug you little baby <hug emoticon> (I nearly wanted to insert a kiss emoticon....but I dont want to show too much affection and interest level, yes Im learning;-)

My Plan

1. Talk to her minimally ---> until we actually meet face to face -->> or just to setup the date (which I want to be at my place)
2. Dont show too much interest or affection.
3. Tease and entertain.

(If someone could show me how to edit screenshots i WOULD appreciate that ;-)

So my question to the forum, is how would you of handled this conversation, and how will you try to seduce this sexy young girl from this point onwards?

I just dont want to fukk this up, yes I know its bad to put unneccessary pressure on myself, but this girl is fit (not a oneitis, I still talk to other girls on OLD ).


P.S. If you haven't gotten laid in the past three months, please dont bother replying to this thread.

Thank you for your time, and useful replies.





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If you're this concerned over it, you're going to make the number one mistake of pedalstalizing her and that's literally, the worst mistake you can make. If she's going to be a pain, doesn't matter how good she looks, she's not going to add anything of value to your life. I get it, you want that *ss bad but you've got to get past that and see her for what she would be like day to day. Even if you're not in a committed relationship with her, even if you want to get at her on a regular basis, you're going to have to deal with her. Will she make you wine and dine her every time before you get to do her? Not worth it. Is she going to be high maintenance in general, not worth it. I love that part of Eddie Murphy's skit where he says even if sparks shoot out her *ss, there's no p*ssie worth half. Keep that in mind, you'll find women who are easier to deal with, I promise.

 

[Ryan]

i) When I'm saying you're too serious , i mean you are not playing enough with her . Play with her , use her to amuse you .
You made yourself vulnerable when you said that you are teasing her . Let her believe whatever she wants to believe . Women never stop to talk . Only your words matter . Women filter everything we say and most of them never forget our words .

ii) Once you tell her to come in your place , she's going to say she don't know you enough to visit you . Tell her that you know each other and that you trust her enough to visit you . I believe showing some vulnerability in your part might make her more confortable but don't do it for too long. Be creative .

iii) Gentle i mean don't be a d!ck but also don't be a chump . Be smart , if you are gentle and know what you are doing , she will be fully into you . Funny , i mean when you talk , play with everything she says. Being sarcastic is also a key .

So you call her ....not a lot of chit chat ....she propably going to say that she's tired because of her exams and tell why don't you come in my place to chill. Be absolute but in balanced manner. Not too ****y and aggresive but not too needy and passive with her reactions.

Here is a sample :
You: hey how you doing?
Her: good and you ?
You: fine .where are you ?
Her : im at home studying/at my friend Nina etc
You : why don't you come later at my place , chill a bit , drink something
Her: oh i can't ,my fish has to eat
You: ok feed it and then come
Her: i dont know you well to come and visit you .
You : i don't know you either and actually is a risk for me to invite you at my place
Her : why are you saying that?
You: cause you seemed angry when i told you about the make up and I'm afraid that you might attack me lol
Her: i won't do that
You : you have to prove it
Her : i can't, i just met you.
You : and ? What about it ?
Her : i don't know
You : come here , relax ,see a movie or have something to drink , i don't bite
Her : i can't do this
Her : let's meet next week.
You : my program is full , i can't make it .
You : listen , my address is this.......I'll be home for the whole night . If you change your mind , call me back . Bye
And close it .
Go NC from then . If she's interest , she's going to call you back .

Use something like this , don't use the same words but you have an idea of how it should really go . Show her that she's just an option out of many for you but make her feel that you feel something special for her bit don't be afraid to neg her .

She's at work.....so.....

 

[NSX-R]

She's at work.....so.....

After work ...

 

[Ryan]

After work ...

you sure this is a good idea mate?

I never met her before, and I called her twice yesterday

 

[NSX-R]

you sure this is a good idea mate?

I never met her before, and I called her twice yesterday

Look . I'm talking only through experience. It's always a risk . I have tried it once and my best buddy did it also a couple of times and it alwayd worked. Both of us had just met the girls through friends and we had only exchanged names and numbers . Nothing more . We both fcked them in our places . These were different situations always and thw girls didn't know each other .

If it's going to work for you ? Maybe yes , maybe no. In comparison to me , you have said a couple of words with the woman and you have been talking for a while . Only drawback you haven't met in flesh. Meanwhile myself i only saw the girl for a couple of minutes , said a few words , picked her number and that was all .

I believe it matters a lot the delivery of what you want to say . If you are manly enough and know how to play with words , you can achieve anything .

I think it's worth taking the risk . Waiting till next week as she says , is worthless i believe . She's going to flake on you 96,8% .

My experience has taught me that if a woman wants someone , she's going to do anything for him .
If she wants to do anything with you , she's going to visit you . Be in charge and hold your frame . That's the trick . No need to reason your needs . You tell her to come in your place , she's doing it . You don't beg or ask her to do it . You are ordering her .

If you called her yesterday, do it tomorrow. Grab your balls and do it .

Keep us updated ...

 

[marmel75]

you sure this is a good idea mate?

I never met her before, and I called her twice yesterday

Lol...might as well go for it this chick is a 100% flake at this point with your desperate behavior.

Then guys wonder why women start talking about sex early on? To weed out thirsty dudes like you.

 

[Ryan]

Lol...might as well go for it this chick is a 100% flake at this point with your desperate behavior.

Then guys wonder why women start talking about sex early on? To weed out thirsty dudes like you.

She never spoke about sex....

 

[Ryan]

Look . I'm talking only through experience. It's always a risk . I have tried it once and my best buddy did it also a couple of times and it alwayd worked. Both of us had just met the girls through friends and we had only exchanged names and numbers . Nothing more . We both fcked them in our places . These were different situations always and thw girls didn't know each other .

If it's going to work for you ? Maybe yes , maybe no. In comparison to me , you have said a couple of words with the woman and you have been talking for a while . Only drawback you haven't met in flesh. Meanwhile myself i only saw the girl for a couple of minutes , said a few words , picked her number and that was all .

I believe it matters a lot the delivery of what you want to say . If you are manly enough and know how to play with words , you can achieve anything .

I think it's worth taking the risk . Waiting till next week as she says , is worthless i believe . She's going to flake on you 96,8% .

My experience has taught me that if a woman wants someone , she's going to do anything for him .
If she wants to do anything with you , she's going to visit you . Be in charge and hold your frame . That's the trick . No need to reason your needs . You tell her to come in your place , she's doing it . You don't beg or ask her to do it . You are ordering her .

If you called her yesterday, do it tomorrow. Grab your balls and do it .

Keep us updated ...

I tried calling shes not picking up....yet last week she insisted on hearing my accent, and now she is acting wierd...

Next steps?

At this stage I feel like quitting and just deleting the apps and just doing me.

Sorry the images came out so big, I need someone to show me how to edit screenshots on my phone (yeah I am from the 90s)

@NSX-R

 

[NSX-R]

Abandon ship.
In your place i would play a bit with her .

I would respond with .

" someone woke up angry today..." or "hahahah " or " goodbye little princess " and go nc or "you're such a tragedy " .

I would go full d!ck because she's not respectful enough .

 

[Ryan]

Abandon ship.
In your place i would play a bit with her .

I would respond with .

" someone woke up angry today..." or "hahahah " or " goodbye little princess " and go nc or "you're such a tragedy " .

I would go full d!ck because she's not respectful enough .

yeah I was like "some is having a bad day" .....

I feel like saying " when you asked me to call you , you never said please" which is true she never says please when asking me to call her....